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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:46 AM
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PA voting problems during and prior to the election enumerated.
Kathy Dopp has listed some of the problems experienced in the PA election (from BradBlog) and added some comments about the PA system in general. PA, acc to many election activists, the worst state to vote in now because of the voting machines used.

Regardless of whether Obama or Clinton "wins" the PA Democratic Primary according to PA official machine counts, what we will never know is whether or not PA voters'
ballots were accurately cast or counted because a large majority of PA voters vote using invisible e-ballots without any voter-verifiable paper ballot record that could be used to verify the counts. for independent auditing. And we will never know what trade secret instructions compiled into humanly unreadable machine language were used to cast and count e- votes in PA.

There were a lot of problems with PA's voting systems.

Mainstream media reported many problems today with PA's Voting Systems. Some PA primary election problems are listed here by
BradBlog.com:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5918

Election Officials are reporting "few problems. However, news reports show otherwise. Problems (from most recent to earliest) Include:

4:12pm PT: Wrong machine deliver, machine failure, court-appointed machine inspector denied entrance to polls.
http://www.electionjournal.org/

3:54pm PT: Voter-service phone lines jammed across state.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/us/politics/22cnd-campaign.html?_r=3&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

3:45pm ET: Machines down, get jammed, in Bucks County.
http://blogs.phillyburbs.com/blog.php/?p=28259&cat=0

3:09pm ET: More machine breakdowns in Philly, voters only allowed provisions if both machines malfunction.
http://cbs3.com/topstories/polling.places.pennsylvania.2.705732.html

3:01pm ET: Obama camp reporting problems, difficulty getting machines started, voting probs, Philly official says "all is well". From http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_camp_charging_voting_problems_in_0422.html

12:28am ET: Machines down in African American area of Philly, voters leave without voting, registration probs. Via Email from computer security, e-voting expert, Dr. Rebecca Mercuri...

11:00am ET: Registration roll probs in Philly, provisionals only handed out if both machines malfunction. From Philly Inquirer/Daily News PA Primary Blog...
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/Vote_early_to_avoid_problems.html

10:50am ET: Both machines break down, 100's leave without voting, Obama's name not on provisional ballot! From Philly Inquirer/Daily News PA Primary Blog...
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/More_voting_machine_malfunctions.html

10:45am ET: Electrical probs lead to ES&S iVotronic machine malfunctions, use of paper ballots in Green Tree. From CBS affiliate KDKA 2...
http://kdka.com/local/Poll.Green.Tree.2.705572.html

10:44am ET: Machine breakdowns in Delaware County and South Philly.
From Philly Inquirer/Daily News PA Primary Blog...
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/18002279.html

9:45am ET: Ballot design probs in Palmer Township (Northhampton County). Delegates not listed under candidates. From Lehigh Valley Live...
http://blog.pennlive.com/lvbreakingnews/2008/04/palmer_township_voter_reports.html

9:43am ET: Fewer machines in Northhampton County this year. From Lehigh Valley Live...
http://blog.pennlive.com/lvbreakingnews/2008/04/voters_might_need_to_wait_in_l.html

6:15am PT: Machines "on fritz" as Philly polls opened, voters given provisionals. From Philly Inquirer/Daily News PA Primary Blog...
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/Grumbling_at_the_provisional_ballots.html
9:14am ET: Voting machines malfunctioned, votes lost in Bethlehem.
From Morning Call...
http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-n-l-voters-042208-cn,0,4187550,full.story

To read the Brad Blog article in its entirety see:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5918

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Blackbox Voting (http://blackboxvoting.org) named PA the worst state to vote in. Other articles re. the flawed PA voting systems include:

Major flaw in State of Pennsylvania online voter registration puts user data at risk Posted by Nathan McFeters March 18th, 2008
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=965

Election Fraud in Pennsylvania?
Michael Collins, Sunday, 20 April 2008
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0804/S00288.htm

Pennsylvania - State of Denial
Marybeth Kuznik
http://votepa.us/

The Pennsylvania Primary: Democracy of the Gods Tuesday's Election Will be 'Unrecountable, Unverifiable, and Unauditable'...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5916

Pennsylvania's Primary: Paperless and Unverifiable By Verified Voting Foundation April 15, 2008 http://verifiedvoting.org/

Video - Voting Trouble in PA? (Re. Clueless PA Officials who claim that PA's machines are "HAVA-approved" and that "I got elected on them, so there are no problems.") http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHfnLXAOjDA

Long Lines expected:
Pennsylvania Voter Registration Total Hits Historic High for a Primary Election http://www.foxbusiness.com/article/pennsylvania-voter-registration-total-hits-historic-high-primary-election_569836_1.html

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:59 AM
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1. Thanks for posting this. Bookmarked for later....
I just heard on Tom Joyner's show that the NAACP voter unit went to court to get polling hours extended in some precincts because of late openings, malfunctioning machines, long lines, etc. and the judge threw it out. Only later did they learn that the judge should have recused himself as he is a big Hillary booster in PA. Once the judge threw it out, it was too late to appeal.

I guess that's the Rendell machine at work.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:19 AM
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2. It always takes a few days for these incidents to filter up
to national conciousness. (And they only do if the 'net insists on it)

k&r
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