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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:08 PM
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a very scary election fraud/Bush article
if this is a dupe I apologize
although it is long..... it is well worth reading
http://onlinejournal.com/Commentary/110904Schwarz/110904schwarz.html


A Conservative Christian Republican demands truth from Bush

By Karl W. B. Schwarz
Online Journal Contributing Writer


November 9, 2004—As a nation awaited a decision regarding Ohio and more evidence was surfacing that there might be some serious wrongdoing by some Republicans in that and other states, John Kerry ups and concedes the election. Hmm, instead of standing up to fight for the 55 million that backed him, he throws in the towel? The most important election of our time–and it is time to throw in the towel and call it a good Yale Skull & Bones college try?

I thought you readers might like to get a better glimpse of a possible reason "the election of Bush-Cheney" is of such vital self importance that systematic vote fraud is a petty minor offense compared to what they might be facing if they are not in charge and cannot try to keep the lid on the truth and certain investigations that will impact both sides of the aisle in DC.


Many of you readers have probably heard about the "380 tons of explosives missing at Al Qaqaa" and the immediate denial by Bush-Cheney that there is anything amiss, or that they are remiss in being truthful with the likes of you and me.

My company was involved in negotiations with Eastman Chemical from May 20, 2004, until early September and Eastman suddenly ended all discussions without explanation. In fact we negotiated and signed a non-disclosure agreement <"NDA"> with Eastman on June 15, 2004.

Two notable things occurred at about that same time, the first being knowledge about my book was getting around Arkansas and what is disclosed in Chapter 8, titled Planting Weeds in Americaメs Rose Garden. That chapter very clearly lays out that it is Israel, the PRC and the United States that are more involved in WMD proliferation than any other nations on earth. Secondly, it was in late September and early October that the "preliminary stink" regarding the missing 380 tons of explosives at Al Qaqaa really started to surface


(snip)

I cannot say, but maybe Seymour Hersh of The New Yorker has come up with more information as to why Israeli agents were at Abu Ghraib prison, and just maybe they were trying to eliminate more of the Iraqis mentioned by my above Cairo connection. I suspect there is a tie between Abu Ghraib and Al Qaqaa that is just now surfacing and the light of truth is shining for a change.

I wish that all of these facts had been known on September 30, 2004 so that my Demand Letter to George W. Bush could have included this as Demand Number 31 to the previously submitted 30 Demands for the Truth, sent to the White House by email and by facsimile, resulting from 9-11 matters that I am involved in and detailed in the book I have written. It is about time multiple people in the Bush administration and in Washington, DC, in general learn "accountability under the law" and get over their problems with The Truth.

That Demand Letter went to the Democratic National Committee and Kerry at the same time Bush received it, and I was astonished that the information was never used by Kerry in any of the debates. Furthermore, I sent that Demand Letter to the Democratic Party in each of the swing states and have yet to hear of any use of hard-hitting information that explains why the White House and George W. Bush are in cover-up mode on many different fronts.

Every investigation has been suppressed by the Bush administration and I am one Republican that is watching closely at how many Democrats are just rolling over on the Iraq lies, 9-11 and who did it and why, the Valeria Plame matter, the Afghanistan pipeline, the Aqaba pipeline, the privatization of Iraqi assets that is infuriating the Iraqis, and many more misdeeds that are not being looked into and the truth being put on the table for all to see. Stay tuned for more on that Aqaba pipeline that certain Bush affiliates have been conspirators on since at least 1983.

Mandate? Yes, there is a mandate, Mr. Bush, for the Truth.

As of Wednesday, October 28, New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer received a complaint that, if fully prosecuted, may result in criminal charges against Bush, Cheney and a host of others relating to 9-11, including charges of mass murder, treason against the United States, and misprision of treason, which is knowingly withholding facts and knowledge of the existence of treason against this nation and, of course, against you and me.

That matter may well be expanded to include the true nature of why the Bush administration walked right over the law to attack Iraq and now it may be known that these missing explosives should not have been there in the first place and would be a violation of law for them to be there. We have all sorts of Bush cover-ups in play, why not add Al Qaqaa to the list that grows almost daily?

I want to know what Americans and/or foreigners are responsible for that type of explosive being at Al Qaqaa, possibly in violation of UN sanctions and US law. That might shed much light on the veracity of the Bush GWOT and who the real terrorists are.

Maybe this is just something else the Bush–Cheney administration is trying to hide from the rest of the world. Maybe the real terrorists are Bush–Cheney or some affiliates and this is a "strategery" for much bigger business objectives. Maybe the GWOT is just a means to an end. When one knows that Bridas Corporation had the Taliban and General Rashid Dostum under contract to build a pipeline we now control, the dots do in fact start connecting.

In retrospect, as facts surfaced, it is rather odd that Eastman suddenly did not want to do a profitable business deal with my nanotechnology company and that decision coincided with knowledge of my book, its WMD proliferation facts being disclosed, the anonymous email with the link and admonition "pay attention to Al Qaqaa" and the Al Qaqaa stink starting to be discovered. Hmm, what is the connection?

Please sign the petition to reopen the 9-11 investigation and the Justicefor9-11.org petition if you, too, demand the truth and justice regarding September 11, 2001. There is much truth to be found and we have a national capital that is full of people that have an aversion to the truth. It is time that we as American citizens get to the bottom of why they fear the truth.

Karl W. B. Schwarz lives in Little Rock, AR and is the author of "One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas, a Conservative Republican Speaks Out." He is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC and I-nets Security Systems, a designer of intelligence and communications UAV systems. You can email him here.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:16 PM
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1. I've been saying all along that the Busheviks and their
international co-conspirators have to hang on to power by any means possible including election fraud because if they don't hold the power, then all the malfaesance that they have been up to will start to leak and surface and they stand to lose everything including being imprisoned or even executed for their criminal acts.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:19 PM
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2. How can we make the latter happen quickly?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:22 PM
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4. We really can't do anything.
Let's pray that those who can bring these people down will do so.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:26 PM
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5. Cleita, do you know what "GWOT" means? Thanks! n/t
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:30 PM
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8. Global War on Terra? - just a guess here. n/t
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:36 PM
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11. GWOT = Global War on Terrorism
At least that's what came up when I Googled it. :shrug:
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:26 PM
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6. We CAN do something
we can continue to "be the media" as Bev said.

It is our duty as citizens to get the word out by any means available to us.

It is also our duty to help the recount in Ohio go forward. If you weren't aware of it, the Cobb campaign now needs to fund the mobilization. The first collection was for the recount fees. For $10 you can adopt a precinct.

Go to: www.votecobb.org and give a little to fight for democracy.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:20 PM
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3. So, if more information comes up against the Chimp administration's
involvement with the Aqaba pipeline, what does Karl suggest to happen? He mentions the other pipeline project, Valerie Plame and 9/11, just to mention a few. Okay, Karl, they have gotten away with so much, what do you propose to do? We citizens will back you and Sy Hersch up if you do have the evidence to bring this Chimp cabal down. Just tell us what to do.

I do have another question, what does GWOT mean? That sounds like something against the Chimp administration, but I'm not sure what it is.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:28 PM
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7. GWOT
global war on terror
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:33 PM
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9. Thank you both, Slit Skirt & Soup! n/t
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Amich Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:36 PM
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10. GOWT means global war on terror
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:39 PM
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12. ....so now that everyone knows what GWOT means
...how are we going to stop these criminals from destroying our America the beautiful....
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:40 PM
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13. I know it's lomg--bit it's very relative to this post---
Los Angeles Citizens’ Grand Jury condemned the 9/11 Commission’s official version of the events of September 11, 2001 as “physically impossible, untenable, contradictory, implausible and fraudulent” and called for the release of several documents specifically naming officials responsible for 9/11, being withheld until after the election.
Citing evidence that at least 8 of the 19 alleged suicide hijackers reported themselves alive after 9/11, that the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7 came down not from fires from the planes but controlled demolition explosives which require weeks to prepare, and Administration managed “war games” (including a field training exercise scenario covering multiple hijackings and a plane going into a building) that were actually happening on 9/11 as causing air traffic controller confusion & lack of fighter response, the nation’s first Citizens’ Grand Jury on 9/11 unabashedly concluded 9/11 was “an inside job” that demands “legal prosecution, civil liability and political condemnation” around the world.

According to the nation’s first Citizens’ Grand Jury on 9/11, the US government must immediately release the CIA Inspector General’s report on 9/11, which assigns blame to certain high level officials but whose release is being suppressed by new CIA Director Porter Goss until after the election, according to published reports. Goss is reported to have been having breakfast on the morning of 9/11 with the Pakistani ISI “money man” himself, General Mahmud Ahmed, who had wired $100,000 to the alleged head-hijacker Mohammed Atta.

LA’s Citizens’ Grand Jury also issued a demand that the records of the Vice-President’s Counter-Terrorism Task Force and preparation and co-ordination of the emergency exercises/war games the Vice President was overseeing on 9/11 be released as they may well have contributed to the lack of fighter response to the hijackings.

In addition, the Citizens' Grand Jury demanded that the FBI release all surveillance videotape and related evidence being withheld bearing on the flying object which hit the Pentagon on the morning of 9/11. Evidence presented to the Jury suggested that due to the absence of debris from a 60-ton 757, limited damage to the Pentagon, an “implausible” flight pattern and lack of skill of the alleged Arab hijacker pilot, possibly a missile or a remote controlled drone actually hit the Pentagon instead of American flight # 77 which was last tracked over Ohio by air traffic controllers. The Jury chose to delay a finding on the Pentagon, pending further deliberation of eye witness reports and surveillance documentation.

Acknowledging vast resources and unacknowledged evidence ignored by the 9/11 Kean-Hamilton Commission Report, the Los Angeles Citizens’ Grand Jury rejected the official version of 9/11 labeling it “a propaganda fabrication designed to favor the unleashing of aggressive war, while hiding the activity of a treasonous cabal of high-level elected and appointed civilian U.S. government and military officials, and private and/or contracted third parties and rogue agents under their known or unknown direction yet to be determined who both actively prepared, promoted, organized, assisted, fomented, and/or passively favored the September 11 attacks and supported the cover-up that followed”.

The Citizens’ Grand Jury, which had begun its deliberations on Saturday, October 23 with a large public meeting in the Bob Hope Patriotic Hall near the Los Angeles Civic Center, refuted the claims of the 9/11 Commission Report on several detailed points. They decided to evaluate the attacks as a crime by considering “motive, means and opportunity” which on several counts were beyond what Osama bin Laden and 19 suicide hijackers could have accomplished unaided. Noting in particular the lack of fighter response for 1 hour and 40 minutes when “67 times in the year prior to 9/11 by following established procedures when planes went out of communication or off course, the system worked perfectly” and fighter planes were usually scrambled within 15 minutes.

In addition, they noted the fate of WTC building 7, a 47-story building housing the DOD, IRS and Security and Exchange Commission, among others, which has generally been ignored in press reports. At 5:20 pm on 9/11, it collapsed into its own footprint – characteristic of a controlled demolition - without being hit by a plane or debris from the falling Towers and with minimal fires that allegedly could have been easily extinguished. Jurors viewed a video of the WTC Leaser, Larry Silverstein, who said he and the fire department in the afternoon of 9/11 agreed to “pull it” which is a controlled demolitions industry phrase that means to demolish through the use of pre-placed explosives. They concluded the liklihood of a controlled demolition of WTC7 was beyond what Osama bin Laden and 19 hijackers could have done unaided, which further suggested 9/11 was an inside job.

The Citizens’ Grand Jury is composed of 25 average Americans of diverse ethnic, national, religious and professional backgrounds – including a 9/11 family member, a private investigator, a medical doctor, a college student, a therapist, an educator, the director of personnel and training for a major union, an author on the holocaust, and a retired forensic investigator. They issued today’s findings after several days of consideration on the language of the findings, adding extensive demands for withheld evidence.

The Citizens’ Grand Jury heard evidentiary presentations from 9/11 researchers Jim Hoffman and Don Paul, authors of Waking Up From Our Nightmare: The 9/11 Crimes in New York City, Webster Tarpley, author of George Bush: An Unauthorized Biography and the upcoming 911 Synthetic Terror: Made in the USA and Barbara Honegger, former White House policy analyst and author of the October Surprise who broke the story of the “numerous emergency response exercises/’war games’ that have been officially acknowledged to have been carried out on the morning of September 11, 2001 under the various directions of Vice-President Cheney, the Pentagon/Joint Chiefs of Staff, NORAD (Air Force), the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO, staffed mainly by Air Force/military and CIA personnel), and FEMA” featured in depth in Michael Ruppert’s best selling Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil.

The Grand Jury also viewed photographs and film clips including Senator Mark Dayton testifying before a Senate committee reviewing with Commissioners Kean and Hamilton NORAD’s “lies” regarding the 9/11 timeline calling for accountability for the “unbelievable negligence”. They also viewed taped and/or written testimony from David Ray Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor on the 9/11 Commission’s Omissions, Mike Ruppert summarizing the war games excerpted from the Canadian best-selling documentary with Barry Zwicker, The Great Conspiracy, and researchers Nafeez Ahmed, author of The War on Freedom: How and Why America Was Attacked Sept. 11, 2001 and Paul Thompson, author of The 911 Terror Timeline.

The findings of the Los Angeles Citizens’ Grand Jury represent the most detailed and thorough refutation of the US government’s official account of what allegedly happened on 9/11 ever formally issued by a people’s fact-finding body. Formal presentation of Findings and References will follow their next deliberation scheduled for mid-November where they will address other questions, including specific responsibilities of US government officials and persons in the private sector pivotal to the events of 9/11.

“It is the hardest thing in the world to confront,” explained Citizens’ Grand Jury convener, Lynn Pentz, “that members of our own government are responsible for perjury, treason and mass murder of their own citizens as well as citizens from 82 other nations around the world.

“Given our political and judicial systems have refused to deal with the reality of 9/11,” she explained, “We the People must now be responsible for our representatives’ lies, their war on our freedoms, their terrorizing tactics, the death and destruction they are waging in our names, their bankrupting of our nation with their endless war for profit and global hegemony, and for our allowing the increasing rise of a police state here in America - all rationalized by the official story of 9/11 and the politicians and media who have exploited it. The Citizens’ Grand Jury has shown we are way past begging for the unanswered questions to be answered. We know a lot of the answers and they are not pretty.”

Ms. Pentz is a well-known southern California activist of the international 9/11 truth movement, and co-founder of 911TruthLA.us, the host organization of the LA Citizens’ Grand Jury. Ms. Pentz participated in both the International Citizen’s Inquiries in San Francisco and Toronto and attended the 9/11 Kean-Hamilton Commission Hearings in New York which she declared were “appalling to any citizen committed to finding the truth and assuring accountability for what actually happened”.

After presenting well-verified evidence to the 9/11 Commissioners of the Administration’s bogus Orange alerts, Silverstein’s ordering the destruction of WTC7 which “housed the People’s business” (ie: 200 open investigations of securities fraud), and evidence that many of the alleged hijackers were still alive after 9/11, Pentz says, “she then knew that they knew and chose to cover up the truth instead of reveal it.”

She even showed two Commissioners, FBI Director Robert Mueller’s statement to CNN that there is “no legal proof to prove the identities of the suicidal hijackers” and his April 19, 2002 admission, ”In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper – either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned in Afghanistan and elsewhere – that mention any suspect of the September 11th plot.”

“None of this (and so much other) evidence, and none of the connecting of the obvious dots that point to government complicity, were even referred to in the Commission’s Report. So, its now incumbent on the People to take back their government by not settling until the real perpetrators are held accountable and the systems that allow such abuses have real citizen oversight so these egregious abuses of public trust cannot happen again.”

Several such efforts are happening nationally. Activists in New York have just filed a petition with state Attorney General, Elliott Spitzer, with an unprecedented Citizens' Complaint Demanding a Criminal Inquiry into the 9/11 Crimes as part of their “Summer of Truth” campaign. San Francisco’s Stanley Hilton represents 400 9/11 family members in a suit charging government complicity in the events of 9/11. Grass roots demonstrations are continuing and legal actions are beginning to move forward.

According to Webster Tarpley, a key witness in the proceedings, “With today’s release of findings, the Los Angeles Citizens’ Grand Jury has taken a giant step beyond the unanswered questions of 9/11, towards positive determinations of what really happened and who was responsible. On the eve of the US Presidential elections, these findings represent a qualitatively new phase in the people’s campaign against the US government’s Big Lies about 9/11.”

“We call on citizens here and around the world to have your own Citizens’ Grand Juries, review the evidence and decide for yourselves”, said Ms. Pentz. “Then, we must all, demand our governments hold the real perpetrators of 9/11 criminally, civilly and politically responsible. In the meantime, we must do the hard work of confronting ‘the enemy is, in part, us’ and not settle until we have truly cleaned house”.

(Click here to view LA Citizens’ Grand Jury findings)




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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:47 PM
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15. thanks for this post....
maybe...just maybe....we might get some of this out into the open....
it is like an onion....peel one layer at a time....nothing would make me happier to see the bush/cheney impeachment hearings.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:49 PM
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16. Good god, now wouldn't that just be a delight! (Sigh) one can dream,
can't he/she?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:45 PM
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14. Ho-boy
Makes ya wonder, eh?

Maybe we a-merry-klans are in too deep. Maybe even kerry knows....of course he does. It's like a volcano getting ready to blow. had bush not got his way with the a-merry-klan people there's no telling what he might have done... martial law, another 9/11...who knows. What we do know is that not nearly enough people voted against the leader of the klan, and now we are stuck with him.

Sorry to be so dark... it's catching up w/me i s'pose.

kerry on
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:53 PM
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17. I agree....it IS rather ugly....
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:09 AM
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18. Schwartz has surfaced again?
Oh geez... Karl Schwartz... This guy locked up the Kerry forum for WEEKS before the election with all sorts of claims about 9/11, invading Afghanistan to secure the oil pipeline, etc... He claimed he was going to blow the lid off of everything before the elections. He was also trying to get people to pre-order his book at $30 a pop to a publishing company that wasn't, for a book that had no release date... or any sort of proof that it existed at all.

When finally challenged on this, he just disappeared. Poof. Gone with the wind.

One thing he DID do was take all of our attention off of things we should have been dealing with. Just wrapped the forum up in knots for a couple of weeks discussing his issues and claims.

In my opinion, due to this disappearing act, and the fact that he never delivered on ANY of his promises, I think the guy is sort of a sociopath with a vivid imagination. He SHOULD be writing Tom Clancey style novels for real, through Random House or Prentice Hall or somebody! He'd make millions, legitimately.

If he posts here, he is very entertaining, in a scary sort of way. Go ahead and consider his posts, check out his stories on the web, DON'T pay for his non-existent book, and DON'T let him tie up the whole forum in knots.




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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:17 AM
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19. Not Schwartz---Please read.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:29 AM
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21. thanks for the post...
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:50 AM
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24. Karenca, thanks for the link. I have read this before, but I'm confused..
how are they going to get indictments if the Repuketards own all three branches of the Senate? What does all this grand jury stuff mean? I don't understand how this is going to make any difference, especially for the simple-minded, little sheeple who still believe in their puppet pResident and still believe Saddam had WMD!

I guess what I am asking is, will there be any indictments? Is there enough evidence to bring the indictments? I'm not sure you will have the answer, but I guess I am just so mad at this administration and the utter crap they get away with! Thanks!
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:26 AM
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20. well, since we can't get any info from the adminstration

I believe he is worth listening to....like many others....
there are many people out there with information and they are just now coming out of the woodwork.......they can't all be lying.............and as for the pipeline....right on ...wake up and smell the nightmare....






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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:30 AM
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22. We still haven't
received all the info about the 9/11 findings yet---
I am sure they're waiting till after inauguaration--
Oh, Please let's NOT allow him to get inauguarated!!!
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:35 AM
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23. I really doubt it will ever come out completely
there are too many people with lives and careers at stake...it is a huge coverup....and until they follow the money we will never really know.
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