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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:23 AM Original message |
One reason (Among others) I am convinced Bush really did win. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. it doesn't take a vast right wing conspiracy, it takes a line of code |
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splat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. there isn't a little man in every radio either |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. The 50 different states use different methods. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. It's not the popular vote! It's the electoral college. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
27. That's true - they use different methods - |
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goldengreek (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 12:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Silverhair's talking about more than that. |
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truehawk (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. They have had a LOT of experience |
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nodictators (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
36. C'mon, Bev Harris has shown that they just have to hack the database |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
38. 2 brothers, backed by a RW fundie, count 80% of the vote with computers... |
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Cadence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-04 12:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
78. They have different methods for casting |
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YellowDoginthehouse (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 03:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Actually, I could have changed all of Arizona |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
64. If it was that easy, shame on you for not doing it? |
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springhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. How do you think he won the popular vote? |
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maryallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Amen! |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. If one person had the right phone numbers |
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smartvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Anyone could -- it's been proven. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
4. Let me help you here. |
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99Pancakes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
49. This is where I am wondering |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. A bit more complex but good point. |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
5. All it would take |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. That assumes that they are on the internet. |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Pinellas co. Florida was giving real-time |
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splat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
32. "From what I have read they were isolated from the net."??? |
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neohippie (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. I am an IT person |
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Cookie wookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 12:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
68. The servers and |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
65. If it was that easy, why did not our dem operatives hack the results? |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 11:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. the ip addresses are insider info |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 12:37 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. This all sounds like a giant paranoidal tale because |
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dpibel (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 02:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Thanks! |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Yes, I will give you that...you are right its too soon... |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 02:31 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. hey low poster |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Are you saying a handful of hackers had access to thousands of |
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m berst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. couple of problems, if I may |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 04:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Yeah, and he can start here |
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HuskiesHowls (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
13. Ok, so his percentages were up over 2000 |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
14. Bush DIDN'T win |
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goldengreek (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 11:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
39. That is a pretty solid reason. |
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bluetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
15. don't you find it telling that Rove and his slaves |
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TennisGuy2004 (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 04:27 AM Response to Original message |
16. Purging the Rosters |
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TennisGuy2004 (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
17. Purging of the Rosters? |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 04:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. In actuality |
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Trahurn (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 04:34 AM Response to Original message |
18. My But Aren't We Naive |
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TennisGuy2004 (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
20. MORE IN-DEPTH FIGURES FROM 2004 |
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Stand and Fight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
22. Realclearpolitics! Funny! |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
23. what grown man would EVER throw themselves under the wheel |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:11 AM Response to Original message |
24. there is no way bush won this election |
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driver8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I get more and more pissed each day! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
56. I know..I have the same feeling |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
26. How Many Investigations Have You Done? |
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99Pancakes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
61. Are you in law enforcement? |
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noclonyofthechimp (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-04 01:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
79. Has anyone considered the $$$$ factor that was probably distributed at the |
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thephaseshift (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
28. You're forgetting something |
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Stevepol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
29. Red trrend |
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onedayi (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. We all need to |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. I agree. |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
62. Hi onedayi!! |
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Hokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
31. This is from pro-bush site |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
33. Everyone knew going in that it would come down to FL and OH |
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hippiegranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
34. Arizona went to Bush in 2000 |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
35. Voter suppression hijacked the election |
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errorbells (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
37. "One reason (Kerry won.) I am convinced Bush really did win." |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
63. Hi errorbells!! |
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neohippie (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
44. The real issue here is faith in our democracy |
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righteous1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Be careful |
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truehawk (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
46. If you want to move on tackle this |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
48. Deleted message |
GetTheRightVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Bush did not win, he cheated with Diebold & others helping him out |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Deleted message |
pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. You can't get proof without audits. So you're for them, right? |
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IAMREALITY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Ahem |
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organik (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
51. one reason, among hundreds of others - i know bush DIDN'T win. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Have you read this by |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
55. Fine. Then they have no reason to be afraid of audits, right? |
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masshole1979 (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
59. If, after such a massive and concerted drive by every soul on the left... |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
66. In the end, it all boils down to this----------------> |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 12:35 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. that will never happen if we don't force it to happen |
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Goldeneye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
71. You don't think its strange |
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Vote4Kerry (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
74. Before you jump to conclusions, look at these NH results |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-04 12:29 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Recount results from NH |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-04 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
80. If Bush cheated in 2000, what makes you think he wouldn't cheat again? |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-04 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
81. The Stats don't add up for a legit B*** win! |
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errorbells (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Black Belt |
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Hobbes199 (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-04 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
83. Everyone knew before the 2nd that he was on his way out |
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Stand and Fight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Yep |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. A snippet from was it hacked? |
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