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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:03 PM
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Will someone please explain Amy Winehouse to me?
OK, look..I know I'm old and hopelessly out of it and dumber than a box of rocks to begin with, and there have been plenty of examples in recent years of "artists" who "the kids" have flocked to whose appeal I've had difficulty understanding....but Jeeziz God Almighty!
:wtf: By ALL means, flame away, but PLEASE try to provide me with some "enlightenment" in the process. I just need some help here!
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:06 PM
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1. I think she's a great singer...
and a seriously fucked up individual.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:07 PM
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2. She ain't no Dave Grohl, I'll tell you that!
If she wasn't such a dipshit, I'd dig her music.
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runningfortheborder Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:34 PM
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23. Amen!
Dave Grohl is amazing :)
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:09 PM
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3. With the genius comes the madness.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:09 PM
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4. First, she can sing and sing pretty well.
Next, her appearance. She's covered with tattoos, has Cleopatra eyeliner, bohemian clothes and a beehive hairdo. She's an individual who's setting herself apart from other singers with their conventional hair, make-up, and clothes.

Finally, she doesn't try to hide drugs in her life. I'm not saying she is endorsing others to follow her example, but when she sings, "I don't wanna go to Rehab," she's using music to express her life as an artist would.

Amy Winehouse is an original and that's why she stands out as both a singer and an individual.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:45 PM
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24. Sorry, but someone copping Motown licks is not original
I wouldn't put Sharon Jones who cops Stax-Volt licks original either but I'd put her head and sholders over Winehouse as far as talent is concerned.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:11 AM
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30. I think any of the American Idol singers are better than her
and she has obviously got some serious issues. I don't get it either, sorry.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:09 PM
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5. If it is any comfort I don't get it either. It must be a celrberty thingy.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:09 PM
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6. Sadly, I can't help you
I'm still trying to figure out "rap" or "hip-hop" or whatever that combination of noise, threats, and obscenities may be. I did hear a brief blurb of Ms Winehouse on the radio recently, singing something like "They tried to get me into rehab, I said, no, no, no." Highly admirable sentiments, I'm sure, but I don't know for what reason she needed rehab.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:12 PM
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7. I'm old and out of it, but ...
I tuned in to see what she was (sorry, I'm that hopelessly out of it, too) ... and I was sort of impressed. My husband (old, too) said "she's a real original."

I am so tired of where music is now I can barely stand it: aside from Beyonce, who I think is talented, I can't stand all these warbling female singers. By contrast, Amy Winehouse had a unique sound and, in a very quirky way, was very appealing. Sorry!

(The only singer I've kind of discovered lately, whom I really really am crazy about, is the very young Nellie McKay--I think she's brilliant, but she'd never end up at the Grammys. i listen to her new album, Obligatory Villagers, all the time.)
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:23 PM
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11. Don't know if they played this on the Grammys . . .
but listen to this tune -- I think you'll really come to appreciate her remarkable talent. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8z4oKr_SN4

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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:50 PM
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16. Thanks for the link. What a beautiful song!
And she sang it so well. You're right - Amy's got talent.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:12 PM
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31. She sounds very 1960s
She must have been listening to her parents' records a lot.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:21 AM
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19. Dig around for Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings...
they've got their own label at Daptonerecords.com.

Sharon's not a new kid on the block, but she's newly popular. For good reason.

And, not for nothing, the Dap-Kings were backup on "Rehab." Amy can stand up on her own, but this great band made some of the magic.




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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:50 PM
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21. Excellent . . . thanks for the tip. . .
I'd never heard of her before but I'm certain to listen to more when the tunes I just ordered arrive.

100 Days, 100 Nights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ouI5KcyHfE

This is a Man's World

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5CcN17ViRM

(Just Dropped In to See) What Condition My Condition Was In

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X7nVZhqb04&feature=related

Amazing Grace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4FdabMifZc


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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:50 PM
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29. Aye
And Amy's work has brought even more attention to the Dap Kings, so all's the better.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:15 PM
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8. I can't explain her but I love her.
I have found her compelling from the get go.

I am 63.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:18 PM
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9. Not in many years has anyone been so desperately marketed as "a real individual"
And so successfully, I'd have to say...
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:21 PM
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10. If you're old, listened to this tune -- you'll better appreciate her remarkable talent. . .
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:23 PM
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12. oh god -- i LOVE amy winehouse big time -- hair, clothes
and most of all her voice -- fabulous!
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:28 PM
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13. Because 'Rehab' is the greatest song of the year, period. n/t
n/t
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Huge Ego Sorry Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 04:40 AM
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26. I take that phrase as daming by faint praise
n/t
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:36 PM
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14. I'm 50 and I like her because she's a great singer.
Then again, my parents never understood what I saw in Janis Joplin and my kids never understood what I saw in Michael Jackson. (Actually, they did, until it was uncool to do so)

Great musical talent often is overlooked when the artist turns out to be a totally out-of-control nutcase.


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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:44 PM
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15. fantastic voice/talent in a very self-destructive human host
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:51 PM
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17. Is she truly talented or Joss Stone-talented?
I haven't given Winehouse a listen (beyond Amazon samples) because I figure she's just another mediocre talent being foisted upon us by the record companies. But maybe I will give a listen...
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:20 AM
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18. Heck, she ain't no Rick Astley!!
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:33 AM
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20. Can't argue with taste, but I like her for the same...
reason I like Steisand. Both of them can get into whiny, nasal voices that I should hate, and would hate on anyone else, but they just have a way of working it that, well, works. (OK, you wanna argue that Streisand pulled it off better, I won't complain.)

They're shoving it in your face and daring you to complain, knowing you can't come up with anything. Peggy Lee and a lot of the greats did that-- made strange choices that you wouldn't expect. (Although she seems to have more in common with Janis Joplin at the moment)

Nobody's saying you have to like her just because she's the hot thing now, but if she doesn't join the 27 Club she could turn out to be really interesting.









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runningfortheborder Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:31 PM
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22. I'm with you, it makes no sense.
I don't get it either... and I'm 25! Aren't I supposed to like her? Everyone else does... Not for me, thats for sure.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:23 PM
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25. I must have really drifted away from the mainstream music scene because I'd never heard of her
until all her drug misadventures started.

I've never even heard her sing. What is it, like pop?
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:55 AM
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27. Another white chick trying too hard to sound black
Ugh.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:47 PM
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28. The Demand Was Already There
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 08:47 PM by Crisco
Brits have been doing Motown R & B-style music and having hits with it since. ... well they never really stopped, but starting with the new wave of the 1980s there were plenty of bands and artists to keep the flame alive. Amy was already a hit in the UK before 98% of America ever heard of her.

Here in the states, there's been a movement towards it in the last several years, but it was underground in clubs.

Back to Black is an amazingly good album, ever bit worth the Grammys it got. This was one of those miracle instances when a label was behind an album that people actually wanted.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:04 PM
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32. Sorry, can't help you
Other than the "lemming theory" (media proclaims a new god/dess and everyone agrees without knowing why). I heard how great she was for so long that I finally checked out a few of her tunes on YouTube, expecting The Second Coming, and I was immensely unimpressed. I mean, yes, she does have a set of pipes, but I felt like she wasn't using them to her full potential--it was like she was phoning it in. But I don't mean that I want her screeching like the "R&B chicks" of late--can't stand their caterwauling--I just would have liked to have heard her exert herself to try to reach some sort of level of excellence. People keep comparing her to Janis Joplin; I say that's blasphemy.

I will withhold my judgment in the hopes that she stretches a bit more in the coming years (provided she doesn't kill herself first).

(As for her appearance--the beehive and weird eye makeup--I think it's just silly and nothing to hang praise on. But then again, I'm an old phart!)

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