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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:08 AM
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Who watched the Watchmen?
I did. Went to the midnight show. Going to see it again in 90 minutes.

It

Kicked

Ass.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:20 AM
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1. Very Cool!!!!
Mr Howler and I are going to go see it on Sunday.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:44 AM
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2. going next week with some friends..
really dug the g-novel. can't wait to peep this!!
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:51 AM
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3. I saw it this morning too. It's good.
I'd even go so far as to say it was very good, but I did find it curiously flat in places though.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 08:42 PM
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4. I won't be able to see it until tomorrow but some of my
friends across the pond have already seen it and describe it as "bloody brilliant!"
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:46 PM
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27. Considering this was the "unfilmable film"...
...the fact that it was merely "flat in places" is nothing short of amazing.
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 03:02 AM
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5. Midnight show at opening
Great flick but not to the level of Dark Knight. Very true to the source material which may have been its limitation.

Music integration was just fantastic. Loved "All Along the Watchtower" and the opening credits are brilliant as a synopsis for the fanboys and fangirls. Going to the midnight shows puts me back into college again (ie dress up and have the entire experience). We had two college age women dressed up (one as Dr. Manhattan (blue pajamas and the hydrogen symbon on her forehead) and one as Silhouette).

Since my wife refuses to stay up for midnight shows, I went alone (she has never got the full SF Fandom experience so I am not sure how she would handle it). Read my copy of Watchmen while waiting for the movie to start. Real nerdy. I have never plugged into a fan base since moving to this community.

I would hope all fans were delighted, but I don't think the movie is going to be a big commercial success.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 11:58 AM
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6. I disagree on that score. I think it will become a cult classic and
make it's money down the road. I guarantee you it will be a big hit at comicon this year. This will also make a solid for Zack Snyder's career.

The Watchmen cult following that have already seen it feel that Snyder stayed as close to the novel as a director could have.


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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 02:00 PM
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7. The problem is that only the first generation box office
is really considered in a film's success. Hard to compete with The Dark Knight's gaudy numbers.

You are right that Zach Snyder did a fantastic job with the source material. I understand a 4 hour version of this film exists (or could exist). That DVD is definitely going on my Christmas list (just like the LOTR). I want it to be integrated into a true film just like the extended LOTR - not bits and pieces of cut material.

Graphic novel fandom has grown tremendously from when I was a kid trying to hide my collection from my cool friends. In fact people like me have seemed to have taken over Hollywood. I still think there is not enough of us to move to the highest box office without a little something extra (ie Dark Knight and Spider-Man I/II). I got to think a whole bunch of folks are going to see Watchmen and think, what the heck is this?
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 02:18 PM
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8. The director's cut is 3 hours and 10 minutes
It will debut on dvd in June or July. Following that at some point will be a 3 hr 25 mn cut with the animated "Tales of the Black Freighter" reintegrated into the film.
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 09:07 AM
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11. Thanks for the info
15 minutes for Tales of the Black Freighter? Is most of the missing material from the 2:40 and 3:10 framing material for Tales (ie interaction on the street corner?). Tales seems like it should be longer than 15 minutes just in story even.

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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:49 AM
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10. I disagree on the commercial sucess part
I will see it next weekend, but I read that it drew $25 million on its opening day. I think it will at least match "300".
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:36 AM
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9. An interesting piece at the link on Watchmen's origins
from Charlton Comics:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=300&topic_id=1164&mesg_id=1164


Before seeing this picture, I'm getting the graphic novel.

:smoke:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 03:10 PM
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12. Went Saturday night. Still mixed feelings about it.
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 03:11 PM by shadowknows69
The studios should have let Snyder go all "Lord of the Rings" like three and a half hours with it. So many vital plot points were missing IMO. No mention of Kitty Genovese being Rorschack's original motivation, no hint of the orgin of his mask, nothing about Hollis getting murdered, which basically was the plot point that got Nite Owl II to believe RS's mask killer theory. And I'm sorry but NO FUCKING SQUID!!!! Inexcusable.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:56 PM
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13. I disagree
I think changing the threat from the squid (which Moore acknowledged was an Outer Limits ripoff) to Dr. Manhattan made a better movie.
And though the Hollis death was important in the GN, it was not essential. I have a feeling it may be in the Directors cut anyway.
The more time passes since I saw it,and as i think about it, the better I like it
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:42 PM
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14. Maybe the squid would have been silly
But I think they should have somehow duplicated the "alien threat" somehow. Also, Bubastis showing up at the end has no context at all. Here's this genetically mutated lynx we haven't met before, and Adrian's plot no longer has anything to do with genetic engineering. It's a throw in fot the fans that makes no sense to the average viewer.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:46 AM
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21. I finally saw it yesterday and I agree with your points
While the squid would have been nice, the Dr. Manhattan ending did make better sense in the context of the movie (even gave him an easily understandable motive for leaving the planet in the end).

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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:38 PM
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25. No squid was a GOOD thing.
There are some things in comic books that would just be damned silly on the silver screen. The giant mutant squid was one of those things.
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 02:14 AM
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15. Amazing, amazing film.
Stayed about 99% true to the GN (had to leave a few things out for time purposes). The way it was filmed, the music, the cast, the acting. All top notch. Even if you haven't read the book, go see this movie.

And how bad-ass was Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach?

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 09:02 AM
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16. Haley made the movie worth the 9 bucks to be sure.
The prison scenes were the most picture perfect of the whole piece, when compared to the comic.

"None of you seem to understand! I'm not locked up in here with you! You're locked up in here with me!!!"

Chills.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 11:12 AM
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17. So true
and it was worth the $15 I paid for the IMAX!
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 11:13 AM
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18. Hate you!! I'd have to travel about 70 miles to see an IMAX
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 01:19 PM
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19. don't bother
unless you want to count each individual beard hair during the close-ups. I don't think a larger screen added much.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:12 PM
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20. "And how bad-ass was Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach? "
Total class....
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:41 PM
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26. Haley's best performance...
...was the final scream of defiance in the snow. It's almost exactly as I imagined it from the comic, and it gave me chills. I actually felt sorry for that raving sociopath.

The line "None of you seem to understand! I'm not locked up in here with you! You're locked up in here with me!!!" was indeed as funny and as badass as I could hope, but his death was the best performance by far.
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:54 AM
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22. Finished the graphic novel a couple days ago
and now I'm ready for the film. Will have to wait another week, though. I heard that the newspaper vendor is relegated to cameo status which is disapointing. Does Dr. Manhattan get to rock out with his cock out? It IS rated R after all.
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:52 AM
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23. Have now seen it
It was pretty damned faithful to the novel which I appreciate. Dr. Manhattan in all his glory lol. They even had the newsvendor and the kid reading the pirate comic (the two Bernies)doing "the hug" at the end.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:37 PM
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24. Warning to those who haven't seen it yet:
Critics who read the comic generally gave the movie good marks. Critics who didn't read the comic generally gave it bad marks. This means that there are some things left out from the comic that really detract from the experience of watching this movie, but no one seems to be able to put their finger on what exactly that is.

If you plan on seeing the movie, <b>read the comic first</b>.

As a long-time fan of the comic, I thought it kicked ass.
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