They started showing Sex In the City on late night TV lately and I started watching it..

[ddeclue]

and now I really know why I hate this show.. these women are just SOOO shallow... ugh!!!

I guess I'm the last person in America to find this out..

In some ways it reminds me of the horrible women on Absolutely Fabulous.

It's like a car crash you can't look away from.. You keep hoping against hope that one of the characters on this show has at least one redeeming quality...

:eyes:

[Captain Hilts]

1. A show written by a gay man of straight women acting like...gay men.

I just don't know women like that.

Ab Fab was kind of a female version of Cheech and Chong.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

2. There's really no point to watching it in syndication

The dirty talk is cut out, as is Kim Catrall running around topless.

[MADem]

19. The rude language was the best thing about it!

And Miss Catrall was more than topless--she was quite a fearless actor, baring all, bless her heart!

It always seemed that when the script suffered, they made that poor woman swing from a chandelier buck nekkid or something!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

23. I'll never forget the one where she beds the kid from Texas or Oklahoma

And he keeps showing up to her apartment professing his love and banging her silly. Her facial expressions were the best.

[MADem]

27. I thought the one where she tipped the burger delivery guy twenty bucks

because he complimented her full-nekkid photo was a funny one!

[theo bromine]

50. Funny you should say that, as that is all I know...

Then last summer I saw the movie and was relieved that they didn't use too much profanity. It's like Howard Stern: I listened for several years and when he went to Sirius and I heard him once, I didn't like the cuss words...

[Avalon Sparks]

3. I loved the show.......

The bottom line was the show is about friendships..... loved the show and the humor and of course Mr Big.
The fashion, the shoes -shallow of course - but FUN.
Too each his own I guess.

[ddeclue]

4. I'm not just talking about the shoes.. I'm talking about how they

treat each other and how they treat the men they date. It's all very shallow and selfish.

[anigbrowl]

9. You say that like it's a bad thing. Don't take it so seriously.

I really doubt anyone involved in that show thinks of it as a role model for the women of New York. It's a chick thing, just like movies about guys trying to get into strip clubs are a guy thing.

[ddeclue]

12. Umm movies?

:shrug:

I'm trying to think of a regular TV or even HBO show equivalent.

At least on the Sopranos being bad had at least some kind of threat of consequences for the bad guys, you got whacked, you got shot, you got arrested, etc., etc. The behavior of the AbFab and SITC girls seems to lack consequences for bad behavior.

Doug D.

[anigbrowl]

17. Doug...they're comedy shows. Comedies don't have consequences, that's the whole point.

It's OK to laugh at how silly and shallow they are. That's why the show is there. Even more so with Absolutely Fabulous. If you don't find this screamingly funny then I dunno, smoke some weed or something until it makes more sense.

[ddeclue]

20. I don't know.. I just don't find them funny...just irritating.

Seinfeld's characters were the ultimate shallow characters but there were always comic consequences for their stupidity and greed.

[anigbrowl]

25. So watch a different comedy show then

I find Seinfeld lame and tedious, but there you go.

[leftynyc]

38. Agree here

Loved Sex and the City - didn't care for Seinfeld.

[theo bromine]

56. Thank Jah--other people who were not feeling "Seinfeld..."

I just don't do zany; it's not my bag. I like drama mixed in with comedy.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

18. There are a lot of shows where people are meanspirited

"Seinfeld" is the perfect example. All the characters were pretty self-centered and absorbed. Unless you want to say they got their come-uppance in the end with the lame finale and going to jail, they never really had to "pay" for their jerky behavior.

Comparing being a jerk or a snob to being a murderer or a hitman is like apples and oranges.

[ddeclue]

21. In Seinfeld they got their comeuppances in little portions of hell every episode...

They didn't have to wait until the last show for the comeuppance.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

26. One thing I appreciated was they didn't look for an easy out

There's a spolier here......move on if you want to keep being surprised even if you hate the show!




When Carrie dated the dude played by John Corbett (I think he was a woodworker or cabinetmaker)......he wanted to settle down and she didn't. So they ended the engagement. They could have very easily done the "chick flick" thing and have it turn out he was cheating and make him out to be a bastard, but they didn't. Carrie really looks like the bad guy because she dropped the seemingly sure thing that every woman wants.

[theo bromine]

57. But the emotions are shallow, ergo, the show is shallow...

SATC had serious moments so it is a bit more substantial.

[MADem]

29. Sex and the City WAS an HBO show--that's where it used to live.

When the girls treated their boyfriends poorly, they ate ice cream and felt bad about it. They spent enough time lounging about and feeling bad about this thing or that. They were forced to "suffer" many bad dates, too.

ABFAB isn't like Sex and the City, though--ABFAB was an Over The Top farce.

Change the channel if it bothers you, though. Life is too short to be upset by....tee vee.

[ddeclue]

30. Not so many channels at the moment - unemployed, satellite is off

and I'm forced to watch over the air analog channels or watch the DVD's I've already seen a million times.

I normally don't watch this kind of stuff at all and stick to the "non-fiction" type channels for the most part (NatGeo, History, Biography, Military, C-SPAN, NASA, news channels etc.)

Doug D.

[MADem]

31. Have any of your local stations gone to digital yet?

Some of those stations broadcast more than one signal, making for more choices.

You can always watch TV on the internet--I do that a lot when I'm travelling. Here's one site with some fun shows: http://www.hulu.com/

Go to your local library, too--they've often got a load of great DVDs that you can check out--I get my oddball foreign films from those guys.

[ddeclue]

32. Yeah but my one sat receiver that decoded terrestrial digital died a few weeks ago

and I can't afford to spend money on electronic toys right now.

Hulu is OK I guess but it is hard to watch TV on a laptop computer.

[MADem]

33. Lay down and put the laptop on a table beside you.

Don't feel you have to sit up with the thing in your lap. Stretch out on that couch and put the laptop on the coffee table...live a little!

[ddeclue]

34. It's just not the same... sigh...

Sound quality is tinny... the laptop is a netbook with a 10" screen. This would be OK with earphones on an airplane... not so much at home.

[MADem]

45. Ah, pity--you might improve the sound with those earbud headphones.

The smaller screen size, though, is unfortunate.

[theo bromine]

55. The whole digital thing is a joke, mostly...At least at this time

The subchannels are usually just rebroadcasts of the news because they don't have enough material to actually utilize all these extra channels that we supposedly need rightnowthisminute!

[leftynyc]

37. Then you missed the show

where Samantha went for her first HIV test, or when the Cynthia Nixon character got pregnant. The show wasn't supposed to be showing life lessons - it was sheer entertainment with no interest in teaching lessons. But I disagree that consequences were ignored.

[theo bromine]

51. I clicked on your profile to see if I was right...

See, the whole idea of the show is that now women can do to men what has been done to us for all these years! And the fact is that most women in the real world still probably are fairly traditional, in terms of their behavior, so it's just more of a fantasy: the idea of using a man for sex!

[leftynyc]

36. You nailed it

Show was about friendship and incredibly popular in New York as it was a love letter to our city. I read an interview with one of the women who said she was the 5th lady in the show. The only women that didn't ring true was Samantha - her character was much more gay man than 40-something woman. But I saw parts of the other girls in many of the people I know.

[theo bromine]

53. I love the show and continue staying up every night for it, even

though I've seen the episodes so many times that it's not funny!

About the fashions? Ugh! Carrie's clothes were usually pretty fugly and I doubt a regular woman would want 90% of her outfits. Another fashion disaster was Kim Cattrall's character. OMG--she had so many tacky outfits in garish colors! My fave was Miranda. Charlotte was too preppy for my taste...

[HopeOverFear]

5. Loved that show, was a real guilty pleasure

You're right, it was so shallow, selfish AND irresponsible (and young girls were watching it) Yikes.

[Politicalboi]

6. Ab Fab was great

I never watched Sex in the city, but I love Ab Fab.

[omega minimo]

7. you hit the nail on the head, dahling

"You keep hoping against hope that one of the characters on this show has at least one redeeming quality..."

After several episodes you realize you're waiting for something that will NEVER happen..............

[givemebackmycountry]

8. OK, now I've had one drinks too many... (bad night at work)

I'll take Patsy and her drug stash first.
She can work the rotation out with the "City" girls.
I'll take a combo platter, please.
Edwina can mix the drinks and film the festivities.

Off to bed now.

I got a new fantasy.

I'm so ashamed of myself.

:party:

[Skittles]

10. it is real crap

[Qanisqineq]

11. I think I've seen every episode

Some more than once. I only started watching it when I moved to Korea and was looking for something in English. They play it here every day and once they finish the entire series, they start over again. The first time through I kind of enjoyed it, by the time I started seeing some of the episodes for a second time I realized how shallow the characters really were. I think Carrie was my least favorite character. I did like Aiden (spelling?) though.

[ddeclue]

13. The red head is the most tolerable but she is oh so bitter and mean

to other people.

Where in Korea? I spent 3 months in Taejon in 1998. English language TV was so scarce over there that I started watching British programs like Soldier Soldier.. English TV is just sooo boring. I don't get why, English movies are usually pretty good.

Doug D.

[Qanisqineq]

28. Daegu

for a little over a year, then Waegwan for 1.5 years, now back in Daegu.

[theo bromine]

54. I thought Aiden was so cute...Why was Carrie your least fave?

Probably the pathetic factor, I would assume. I found it amusing to learn that women really liked Carrie's character. I mean, what does that say about women?

[nonconformist]

14. I loved Sex and the City. I've seen every episode (uncut).

:shrug:

It's just a TV show.

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

16. I am excited for the next movie. I'm not sure what more they could talk about but I am. nt

[nonconformist]

35. Wow, I didn't know they were making a second movie!

Yay!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

42. Everyone is signed up for it and Shanley is busy writing it! I can't wait!. :)

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

15. What's so bad about it?

A lot of the stuff they say and go through is REAL CRAP for some of us.

sure some of its exaggerated but it's definitely not that far fetched.

[lutefisk]

22. I like very few series on TV, but I liked Ab Fab and Sex in the City. It's just fun.

Among current shows I think the Larry David show and Entourage might compare in some ways. Maybe even 30 Rock.

[ddeclue]

24. I do like 30 Rock but stupidity and shallowness is ultimately punished with comeuppance on 30 Rock.

I recently took a tour of Rockefeller Center and went to the Top of the Rock. It was very cold up there but a really cool view.

[applegrove]

58. I liked Ab Fab and Sex and the City too. I loved watching the fashions on Sex and the City.

[MrsBrady]

39. i never had cable when it was on originally

so i watched it in reruns a couple of years ago.

I didn't take it that seriously, but at the same time...
sometimes I would think "why am I watching this crap?"

I did kinda think the story line with Big and Cary was really stupid.
I mean,...the guy that strings you along for years does not marry you...that's my experience anyway.

[soothsayer]

40. it's easier to just watch porn

[theo bromine]

52. It's not supposed to be for that...It's actually very witty and the absence

of a moranic (sic) laughtrack is a relief. I cannot stand what passes for comedy on first-run tv these days...

[sufrommich]

41. Ab Fab was obvious satire on over the top shallowness.

Did you not get that?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

43. I love the show and have all of the episodes on dvds. It was groundbreaking because

it depicted 4 women, dear loving friends, who could talk frankly to each other about Everything. The show is about the bonds of unconditional love and friendship and if that isn't a redeeming quality, I don't know what is.

[Butch350]

47. What sexual encounters?

[Kahuna]

44. They may be shallow. But they are loyal friends. THAT's its redeeming

quality. Did you see Samantha spoon feeding poor little waifish, broken-hearted Carrie??? :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Butch350]

46. Honey I saw thru that show on it's premier (sp) night!

...shallow to say the least. A fine example for young ladies.

[DerekG]

48. It's kinda like Entourage

Watching loathsome characters shop and screw through life ain't my idea of entertainment. I'd rather gargle Windex.

[theo bromine]

49. Really? I started watching when they began reruns on regular tv

(I don't have cable). I wanted to see what all the hype was about. I ended up loving it. It's a drama-dy, which means that between the laughs are serious moments. So that prevents it from being shallow, IMO. I find a show like "Seinfeld" unwatchable because it's merely zany and has no touching elements to it. I also think SATC is cleverly written.