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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:24 PM
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Poll question: How Can We Identify a Phenomenon as Religious?
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:40 PM
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1. you forgot the LSD...
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:52 AM
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4. You mean I should have included something like "mystical experience"?
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Tormenta Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:38 AM
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2. It's not clear what you mean.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:51 AM
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3. Lots of different things are called "religions." Similarly, the adjective "religious"
is applied to many different things.

There are conventional uses of the word "religion" and "religious" which may be applied simply because these words have been applied before.

But if the words are meaningful, then one ought to be able to identify when the words apply, in some sort of sociological or operational sense.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:27 PM
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6. Check out "The Sacred and the Profane" by Mircae Elliade.
It's what we used in my World Religions class, and I've found it to be the best definition I've come across.

If you want my two-cent summary: religion is the heterogeneity of value with respect to time, place, and action.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:47 PM
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8. I read some Eliade a long time ago -- really liked his sourcebook
"From Primitives to Zen."

Thanks for the suggestion! Maybe I really should check him out further
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Tormenta Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:45 PM
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7. Maybe "religious" isn't the best word to use.
And could you please define "phenomenon"? In the sense that you're using it in your question?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:54 PM
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9. Oh, I dunno. What I'm trying to find out is what other people think they are saying
when they say, of something, that that something is religious.

Words like religion and religious seem to be used in different ways. I've heard certain fundamentalist Christians, for example, insist that Christianity is not a religion -- though I think hardly anybody would agree that the word religion was used properly in that claim
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:11 AM
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5. irrational conformity to authority
misreading the signs
genetic/pathological/psychological pre-disposition to religion
incomprhension that humanity may not be central to the cosmos

I could go on.
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