The best name for the "this is a christian nation" chumps.

[More Than A Feeling]

They are Christian supremacists.

It's honest, because they do irrationally think that Christianity is inherently entitled to domination in the laws and the culture. Moreover, it echoes the "white supremacist" label to link their attitudes to others that are already culturally despised.

What do you think? Could this label replace "christianist" and others already out there as the go-to label for these groups and people?

[melody]

1. I lean toward parsimony and just opt for "morons"

But yours is probably more descriptive.

[Warpy]

2. I can't remember who came up with it, but it was on this board

and I've taken to calling them "born yesterday Christians."

They're gullible enough to swallow the most remarkable hogwash.

[chemp]

3. I've been using it for years

Sends them into a frenzy every time I call them by name.

[MercutioATC]

4. Well, the "supremacist" lable doesn't seem to bother the white supremacists any...

Christian supremacists would be honored by the name....their god is the "supreme" being, isn't he? Their god is supposed to come before all else...country, family, self.

I don't think they'd consider it an insult at all.

[More Than A Feeling]

7. It's not really meant to rile them up

It's to awaken the media and the more disengaged members of the culture to the comparison between two equally irrational and hateful attitudes: racism and the reactionary brands of Christianity that keep trying to hijack our country with Orwellian up-is-down "logic" and lying-for-Jesus historical revisionism

[TheUniverse]

5. This Country worshipped the great spirit Yowa centuries before Jesus's name was ever spoken.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_mythology

[niyad]

6. dominionist assholes works for me

[Magleetis]

8. I like

Christofascist.

[Cheap_Trick]

9. talibaptists works for me eom

[sepulveda]

10. i see it as somewhat of a semantical issue

are we an obese nation? yes. a very large %age of our populace is obese, thus this is a reasonable observation.

similarly, over 75% of our nation is christian. thus, observationally, our population is mostly christian.in that sense, we are a christian nation.

it would be like saying australia is a surfing nation. it's only true as an observation of the majority of our population.

but our nation is not just a population. a horde of people. it's also an idea, and a government.

and our government isn't, was never intended to be, and never should be a christian GOVERNMENT.

period.

so, i acknowledge that our nation is a (super)majority christian nation. ignoring that would be ignorant of facts not disputable.

but i dispute that our nation, in regards to our government, our freedoms, etc. is in any way a christian nation. it's a nation of laws, not of men, or of religion.

[More Than A Feeling]

11. That doesn't entitle them to cultural hegemony.

Which is what the people we are speaking of really want. Controlling the government is just a means to that end.

[sepulveda]

12. of course

while i don't believe we have anything remotely close to christian cultural hegemony (just watch some sitcoms and some movies), i agree that any sort of definition of our govt. as christian is flatly wrong.

i happen to know some mormons, who i guess would be christian right. they are very conservative socially but the LAST thing they want is a christian (or mormon) govt. i think a history of persecution will make them more circumspect about a theocratic govt than many other rightwing christians.

but again, i think part of the issue is semantical, and that's why i made the point i made.

[immoderate]

15. Utah is a theocracy.

Try to find a bar.

--IMM

[sepulveda]

16. could be

i've only driven through.

are there (religious based) laws prohibiting bars, or is it just not that popular?

didn't know they didn't have bars there. blech

[immoderate]

17. I've worked there a couple of times.

I don't know if it's all over the state, but in Salt Lake, which is the liberal part, you can't buy liquor outside of a private club. Hotels slip temporary membership cards to out of state guests. Elected officials are mostly all Mormons, even the Dems. Polygamy is mostly tolerated.

--IMM

[sepulveda]

18. wow

i used to spend a lot of time in martha's vineyard. several dry towns, but the cool thing was you could drink anywhere in some of them (no open container in public laws, even for a passenger in a car), and could BYOB to restaurants. otoh, Mass had blue laws, so you could not buy any liquor at any liquor store on sundays. a religious holdback as well

[sakabatou]

13. Tripoli-deniers.

[hyphenate]

14. If I recall

the term Christofascists has been used often. I still use either RRR (radical religious right) or simply RR.

[SecularNATION]

19. The Best

'Christian Supremacists' is probably the most accurate and succinct label we can give them. 'Christofascists' is a term many, in the middle, will roll their eyes at, even though it's true. 'Christionist' is OK, as is 'Christian Nationalist', but, many people just won't get the meaning. However, anyone can understand what 'Supremacists' means.

[zonmoy]

20. even better one.

christofascists.