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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:50 PM Original message |
Religion is not harmless |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great post |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. With all due respect, |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Is theocracy by definition an example of zealotry? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Yes and always. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
36. Plenty of non-zealots are superstitious for no good reason. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
45. Organized patriarchal religion is zealous patriarchy --- |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. Very well said. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. .. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
6. hahaha! Religion is damn near the definition of *harmFUL*. |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. I find religion to be disgusting... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. the interpretation of people five thousand years ago does not an |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
37. Of course, there is zero evidence for this "god" (or any of them). |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. there is no evidence if you don't want to see it. I'm good with whatever |
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blueatheart (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
163. I can appreciate your view on your first post |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
69. Fuck that. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
129. Fine, we're obviously monsters. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #129 |
157. nice projection |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. Why don't we hear more about abstenance-only religious education? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. Greadt idea ... !!! |
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notfullofit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
9. OOOOOOH You are brave! |
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Causarius (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. How many children are being denied a proper education in their science classrooms? |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I think you took a wrong turn in one of dem' der' internet tubes |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Is this the mod's day off or something? |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Slow D&D day? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
40. A proper science education |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
48. We can only say that religion fosters ignorance of science . . . |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 06:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. Care to explain? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
89. Galileo and Evolution weren't the first or last attacked by Christianity --- |
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MullenBank (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. Damn skippy |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
14. I agree. |
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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. Indeed |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
19. Gandhi was motivated by the Bhagavad-Gita, MLK by the New Testament: I am glad they did not |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
38. They would have done the same without religion -- or do you think less of them than I do? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
86. Ex Falso Quodlibet |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
57. "...if you could somehow completely extirpate religion from the face of the earth." |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
88. REligion does not seem to inspire the majority of "cop-outs" and "head-games" I encounter daily |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
71. Thank you. Precisely right. nt |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
20. Hear, hear, ls. KnR n/t |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
21. lynyrd_skynyrd you are 100%correct |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
22. Neither is Politics, Politicians have killed more people than Priests. n/t |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 05:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
59. I'm not so sure about that.... |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
134. They would have done the same without religion -- or do you think more of them than I do? |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
23. "I'm seeing women and homosexuals being stoned to death. Abortion clinics have been bombed." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
49. Unfortunately, these actions are pushed and preached by patriarchal religions --- |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. To see how deeply the religious right has insinuated itself ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
90. Someone at DU posted some info on it which I've read . . . |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
84. Those were just two examples |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #84 |
152. To answer what may be obvious... |
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Soup Bean (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
24. Everything in Moderation |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
25. Happy to be the 10th rec... |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
26. You said a mouthful there! |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
27. lol zealots |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
28. Playing devils advocate here |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Humans seek patterns, even when not there. Used to be a survival mechanism. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:33 AM Response to Reply #28 |
54. Religion is mankind's greatest ego-trip of all time. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 05:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. One word. |
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blueatheart (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
121. I concur.. e.o.m. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
29. I agree,it is hard to find any believers who actually fulfill the |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
64. how about the gentleman in your avatar and the other gentleman |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
30. You are stating the obvious |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
31. Religion itself is not the problem |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Yup. Spiritual religion as opposed to authoritative religion. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. It's not just that, Az. It's also believing in things for which there is no good reason to believe. |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. I agree, people are going to act with or without religion |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
50. Organized patriarchal religion is much more dangerous than that . . . |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 06:18 AM Response to Reply #50 |
61. Very well said. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
91. Agree . . |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
32. Thank you. Here's my problem with most (not all) religions |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
34. Nailed it. Religion is not a victimless crime. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
35. Hear, hear! Another example - the Catholic church killed 3/4 of Europe's population. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #35 |
51. Crusades produced so many wealthy/land owning widows ... Witch Hunts were their next best idea -- ! |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
85. It's tiresome to have to repeatedly address such unsupported fantasies |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. Certainly, you're not trying to claim that the Witch Hunts didn't occur . . . ??? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
105. You don't supply links -- and evidently you don't read links when supplied |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. You are totally misunderstand this conversation . . . |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. let's go through it slowly |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Msg #35 was a passing one liner . . . |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. I never replied to #51: I replied to #35 |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #124 |
164. Besides The Witches' Hammer, do you have any links? |
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FKA MNChimpH8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
43. Sam Harris makes the most cogent and persuasive argument |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
47. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with religion |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. That may be true --- but THIS reason would be gone --- |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
53. It's not religion but institutional discrimination and abuse. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #53 |
66. Exactly, Stalin's Soviet Union, Mao's China, Enver Hoxa's Albania and Pol Pot's Cambodia all did eve... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
93. You're wrong . . . |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. Belief systems are DEEPLY imbedded in the pasts of all human cultures. n/t |
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B3Nut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #66 |
159. They had the same fundamental problem as fundamentalist religion has, however |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #66 |
167. Under those Atheistic societies the STATE is their DOGMA... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #53 |
73. I disagree |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Sure. I was mostly thinking that those groups are apprpriated |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
94. True ... the spirituality based on NATURE was without violence . . . |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Well, not really. There's plenty of violence in nature |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. No -- violence among men was taught by patriarchy --- |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. You would benefit from studying the remains of violent deaths |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. I'm talking about the Golden Age, Silver Age, Bronze Age . .. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Acording to whom? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Are you suggesting that the Golden Age was violent . . ??? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Are you serious?! The "Golden Age" is a myth promulgated by Hesiod. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. The Golden Age is a myth . . . ? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. You can't rectify misogyny with myth, reactivity or mis attribution. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Want to work on that comment a bit more and reshoot it to me . . . ? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #122 |
130. I think I'll just let it be. We are on the same side, defendandprotect. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #103 |
155. What a ridiculous post. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
87. Wrong -- Russia had a history of Catholicism back to at least 9th C -- |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. I wasn't talking about Mother Russia but about the Soviet. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. What I'm saying to you is that there was a HISTORY of patriarchal religion . . . |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Okay, let's back up. Underneath ANYONE'S site of worship, you find another one. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. No . .. you're trying to deny the VIOLENCE involved in Christianity/RCC burying other religions . . |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. I'm not denying anything. I'm pointing out a logical error of attribution |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Historically, we have female-centered civilizations . . . |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:19 AM Response to Original message |
56. K&R!!!!!!! |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
58. Dan Dennett, philosopher...he has the answers |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
63. It certainly isn't benign. The founding fathers knew. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #63 |
96. Right, the public has to understand the Vatican is OPPOSED to "equality for all" --- |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
65. IF only Barack could ban religion instead of pandering to it. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
67. Perfect example - the totalitatian nightmare that is England |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #67 |
76. And lets not forget Sweden, the Netherlands, Denmark and Norway |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. I don't even live there, but I fear the Swedish Inquisition |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #76 |
98. They are EXCEPTIONAL people --- |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
68. :) |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
70. You know... I'm so freaking tired of this same screed here. |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Agree! n/t |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Bingo. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
100. Religious faith is not fact . . . |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
126. That's an interesting claim. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Do you feel the same way about Philosophy? n/t |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. lol....yeah, more or less. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. Those words aren't always so pretty either! |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. The basis, at bottom, is of course |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #70 |
160. Which would spontaneously have occurred if you were... |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
72. I agree with this with one tiny change.... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
75. It does good too, though |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
77. You've expressed very well.... |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
78. "Thus Osama Bin Laden can convince 19 people to fly planes into buildings..." |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
80. Imagine there's no Heaven |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
101. Love John Lennon and his wonderful understanding --- |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
82. great post -rec |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
102. The old spiritual beliefs were based on nature . . . no heaven, no hell --- |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
106. If 9/11 were really religiously motivated, why didn't the hijackers attack |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Capitalism and democracy are not synonymous . . . |
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heidler1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
108. I believe that the human animal evolved with a need for help dealing with the world. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
133. I think one must ask themselves... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
135. I always hate these threads, my religion doesn't fit into the mold you are talking about |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
136. What a load of crap! The problem is not religion. It is people. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Unfortunately, you are incorrect. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #137 |
138. Nice try |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. Nice refutation. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. The exact term the soviets used for their new state religion was |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #149 |
150. You've got that backwards |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. So they actually created a new religion and then killed in the name of that one. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #137 |
140. It's the same thing every time he posts |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. Reality sucks doesn't it ? |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Only the reality where you are. n/t |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #136 |
139. I agree. The problem is people. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Yeah, but it makes it a hell of a lot easier to point out the emperor has no clothes |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #139 |
146. I don't think that it is an either / or choice. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. People's propensity for violence and intolerance is what needs to be addressed |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #136 |
151. I've seen zealous knitters, but we haven't killed anyone. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
145. You should replace the word religion with the word monotheism. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
148. Indeed it is not harmless.... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
154. "If you can be made to believe absurdities... |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #154 |
156. Knives can be used for good or ill, so it is with religions. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
158. Well said n/t |
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Riktor (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
161. Here is the fundamental flaw in your argument: |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #161 |
165. This is what Girard says. People are driven to violence, persecution, etc |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. So skinner allows atheists to use this forum to advocate violence against religious people? |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
162. How about we phrase it this way... |
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