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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 09:54 AM
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"defamation of religion" is now a human rights violation?!?!?!?!
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 09:56 AM by Strong Atheist
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The U.N.'s top human rights body has approved a proposal by Muslim nations urging the passage of laws protecting religion from criticism.



http://jta.org/news/article/2009/03/26/1004038/human-rights-body-passes-religious-defamation-resolution

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iRHXSIoJJdXQpG3kPrRO2LWMnWTAD975RDM00

:puke:

RIP, free speech...
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 09:56 AM
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1. one particular major superstition set is so weak it must outlaw criticism. well they are all so
weak they cannot stand a little investigation and criticism. easier to snuff out the opposition than to stand on their own merits perhaps.

Msongs
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 09:58 AM
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2. Shit.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 09:58 AM
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3. Offhand, I'd say that a UN ruling can't supercede
our constitution.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:00 AM
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4. Intriguing, considering religion and human rights are about as opposite as...
...superstition and reason.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:12 AM
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5. The campaigns to end free speech re religion and to impose Sharia law have been
problems around the word and i think they will be developed here also.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:24 AM
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6. It's a hate crime
n/t
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:59 AM
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8. What's a hate crime? Criticism? Was criticizing * a hate crime?
:wtf:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:15 AM
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11. "Hate Crime" is a slippery slope - this is where it leads
n/t
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:53 AM
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14. Are you saying that CRITICIZING religion is a HATE CRIME?!?!?!?
Glad I don't live in in the theocratic gulag that would entail...

yet...
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:55 AM
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15. I thought I was clear
Apparently not. I'll try again another time.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:45 AM
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12. You forgot the :sarcasm: thingy.
Criticizing religion is a hate crime? Have you ever said anything bad about RW fundies on here? Don't lie, I'm a member so I can search (not that I give two shits). If you have, you are a hate criminal.

It says that CRITICISM is wrong. Not oppressing. Not killing. Not discriminating. CRITICIZING. Good Christ on a damn pogo stick, if religion can't take a little criticism, it should put it's big girl panties on and grow up.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:51 AM
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13. I agree with you
But not on the sarcasm thingy.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 07:54 AM
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22. Being critical of religion is a hate crime? eom
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:31 AM
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7. No more than it was the last year, or the year before, or the year before ...
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:01 AM
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9. Didn't see that. Thanks. I think that it should be here, too. nt.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:13 AM
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10. That's it. I'm founding
my own religion.

Fuck all y'all. You are all worthless until I tell you otherwise.

You are all going to Dick Cheney's basement to hold targets in his shooting range while listening to Rush Limbaugh at 200 decibels.

Unless you tell me how wonderful I am. Then you will get some really neat stuff in a really nice place AFTER YOU DIE. I promise.

Now shut up and send me a check.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:05 PM
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16. The US is boycotting for that very reason. nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 03:27 PM
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17. The UN "Human Rights" council has ALWAYS been a sick joke.
It's dominated by countries that think Human Rights are "Western Cultural Imperialism."
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 06:32 PM
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18. Oy
That's a very, very bad idea. Frighteningly bad.

I fully support ensuring that people the world over have the right to practice their religion. But this? This is incitement to violence and repression.

Bad, bad news.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 07:21 PM
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19. Be sure to see the thread linked in #7.
There was another related in the past few months in which struggle4progress did quite a bit of research.
U.S. Constitution would never allow it.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 07:27 AM
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20. So does that mean
Edited on Sun Mar-29-09 07:29 AM by Dorian Gray
that when certain imams rally against Christian or Jewish infidels, they'll be brought up to The Hague to be tried for human rights violations?

This is the most insane BS ever. What countries supported this nonsense? We didnt, did we?


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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 07:52 AM
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21. No, we did not, though we might have done so if we were still under *. Lucky that it is a
Edited on Sun Mar-29-09 07:54 AM by Strong Atheist
new day, here...
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 08:11 AM
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23. Doesn't this still have to pass the General Assembly?
It looks like the reports are that it has passed a committee test, but that it has not had a final vote.

And as we know, a lot of things pass the committee and never even get a vote on the floor.

It is not uncommon to for politicians to introduce measures that they know will never pass, just to pander to their constituents. I think that this is one of those.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 02:50 PM
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24. Good thing the UN doesnt make OUR laws!
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Neo Atheist Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:41 AM
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25. No. This is a non-binding resolution.
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 07:48 AM by Neo Atheist
This body of the UN has the same amount of enforcement power over nations as women have rights in Saudi Arabia (none). The main body of the United Nations rejected any binding legislation concerning CRITICISM (calling religion stupid isn't defamation, just a plain statement of truth) of religion.

This is all a result of Muslims still seething over the Mohammed cartoons in Denmark, and Geert Wilders having the right to be an asshole.


edit to violate non-binding resolution from toothless UN body:

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:32 AM
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26. Ironically, that image gives me the following message:
"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /blasphemedia/Mohammed03.jpg on this server"

OMG, the UN HRC got there first!!!!!!
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Neo Atheist Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:37 PM
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27. these people are as nefarious as the Illuminati, and Freemasons!
I think my webhost is simply acting like a shithead.
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