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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:02 AM Original message |
Religion lies about women |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. I've always wondered how anyone who truly believes women are equals to men... |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. There's more to it than just that. |
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AlecBGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. +1 |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. 1 Timothy.2 And much more.... |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Spot on |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Exactly. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. "To assert that women enjoy any equality in the Bible is specious." |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. thanks :) |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. That doesn't make it any better. |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. Kicking this to the Nth degree. Glad to see critique of the sacrosanct. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. We Tend to Abhor Monopolies in All Other Things |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. +1 |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. great question! |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Got it in one! |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 12:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
42. Thanks for mentioning Buddhism. |
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Permanut (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Paul was a flaming misogynist... |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. The problem is: there ain't no baby in the bathwater. |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. Thanks... K & R'd. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. Kirby, as usual, is somewhat careless in her "facts." Consider, for example: |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 02:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. And what does FGM have to do with how the Bible portrays women? |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. *cough* |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Gotta guess you're not a big fan of context |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I love context when it's relevant. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 06:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
43. LOL! |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I quoted from Kirby, then discussed the quote. That does not seem to be "changing the subject." |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. So what do you think about how the Bible portrays women? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. "How the Bible portrays women" presumes that this collection of books, written over |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Indeed. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Apologists never cease to amaze me with their mental gymnastics they perform |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. "Women are painted as bigger antagonists than the Egyptians and Romans combined! It stinks." |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. Is the wife submit to their husband just a NT thing or is it in the OT too? |
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houstonintc (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. It's a matter of perspective... |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. So you're saying that feminism is destructive to community cohesiveness? |
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houstonintc (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I'm saying anything could be... |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. So in other words, you have no idea what feminism is about. |
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houstonintc (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Individual rights? |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Just...wow. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. So why does the burden fall most heavily on women? |
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houstonintc (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Why this why that? |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Yeah, why? |
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houstonintc (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Lives and legacies.. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Menstrual blood is unclean, but the symbolic blood of Christ is not? |
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houstonintc (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Christianity was... |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. and Jews for jesus is a front group for Southern Baptists. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
36. Religion pretty much lies about everything. |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. To me the interesting part is how the males got the power in the first place. |
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houstonintc (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Jezebel is a feminist hero? |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Inferentially, she should be. Remember the story you cite |
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houstonintc (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Well there is one account of Jezebel that I know of... |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Too bad we don't have her diary. Just that slanted stuff in the Book. |
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