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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 04:57 PM Original message |
Genocide in the Bible? |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. The god of Abraham |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. That was then. This is now. |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Does that apply to Creationism or The Ten Commandments? |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I am hoping that we have evolved past the point of justifying genocide |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. A fellow DUer stated that God never ordered genocide , |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 06:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I do not believe that God ever ordered genocide. Men wanted land or |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
67. well, with the people who think that the Koran creates terrorists.. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. So how much of the bible can we chuck, then? |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. In the Old Testament, yes. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Don't try to use reason it won't work! |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. You asked for it! |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. How do you figure? |
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bluesbassman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. "Slave" was a different term than what we use it for. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
55. how do you know? |
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bluesbassman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. The Jews were not in "bondage" at that time. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. so Jesus didn't care about the slaves of other races? n/t |
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bluesbassman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-10-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Go back and read what I previously wrote. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I'm not trying to create flame bait |
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bluesbassman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Okay, now were getting somewhere. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. There You Have It! |
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bluesbassman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. You have to start with the basics. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. But Some Would Say That Takes All The Fun Out Of It |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. I see what you mean in your last sentence and agree on that |
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bluesbassman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Works for me unpossibles. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 08:07 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. exactly! It's what makes the world go around as long as it's kept civil |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. DING DING DING! Kajsa, you're our grand prize winner! |
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USA_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. New Testament |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. it's metaphor |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Consider your source |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The Hebrau..ancient Hebrews...before Biblical/Torah times. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. By golly, yep, you're right - there is genocide in the Bible. |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. The first genocide...the killing |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Probably millions. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
13. indeed that stuff is in the bible -- and yes it does cause problems. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-04-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Can you tell me more? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 06:15 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. well, i certainly have no control over this -- but |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Well, granted it's not much, |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 07:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. the bible should represent the LIVING word of god. |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I will respectfully disagree. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. did god or did god not admit to doing wrong in the flood? |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Read a little deeper... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 06:30 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. god FAILED and comes to grips with it. |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Does the Bible show this? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. try reading it. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Well, that's something you guys will have to decide yourselves. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 08:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. please understand -- do i think there was a flood -- yes. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Edit out the Book of Revelation? |
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MikeH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Sounds like your god is a touchy, easily offended tyrant |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 02:01 AM Response to Reply #40 |
54. exactly what he is. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. That, Sir |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 09:36 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. To each his own |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. True Enough, Sir |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Right you are |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. My Comments Are Usually General, Sir |
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MikeH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. You seem to be very satisfied in thinking what you think |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I. for one, cannot reject something that |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-09-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Not happy about anyone being lost. |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
38. The Jefferson Bible. |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Thomas Jefferson was a |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
28. Well, the flood sent by the big cheese himself was supposed to have |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 07:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. True |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 09:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Anyone who kills everyone in the world is an a**h***. nt. |
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MikeH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Sounds very hypothetical |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
39. Some NT references. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
44. Yeah, so what's the point here? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. i nominate mrwiggles and the magistrate |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-08-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Second the motion. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. Another Good Post IMO n/t |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-12-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. Thank You Mr. Wiggles |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
68. Here's the rub. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Why is it necessary that everyone agree? Also ... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-13-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Sorry kwassa but even you take at least some of it literally. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 04:59 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I don't take any of it literally |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 07:10 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Not a thing, eh? |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Nope... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. No Exodus? |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. No exodus. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. So why do you consider yourself a Jew? |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I don't take the Bible literally, and I call myself a Christian. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Look, this is not about taking the entire book literally. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. But it's also a matter of definition of "literal" as well as first causes. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 09:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. What makes it a strawman argument |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 01:25 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. No, I don't believe in Jesus because of the Bible. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 07:16 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. The only place where the "facts" that Jesus... |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 10:21 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Just because I believe it, doesn't mean I believe it's a fact. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-15-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I just find it so terribly convenient... |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-17-06 11:32 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I find it terribly convenient that someone insists on using their own |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-14-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Being Jewish |
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