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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 02:54 PM
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Will steroids report lead to perjury investigation of Sammy Sosa?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/michael_mccann/06/16/sammy.sosa/index.html?eref=sihp

According to the New York Times, Sammy Sosa, like Alex Rodriguez, was among the 104 players who tested positive for steroids in 2003.

Keep in mind, this infamous and mostly confidential list of 104 was never supposed to exist. All of the tested players were assured by their union, the Major League Baseball Players' Association, that their names would not be disclosed. The players were only tested as part of a sample test, as agreed to by Major League Baseball and the MLBPA, to determine whether a sufficient number of players tested positive in order to trigger mandatory steroids testing. The names associated with the positive sample tests were allegedly irrelevant; all that mattered was whether more than 5 percent of players tested positive. Any incriminating materials -- be they paper documents or computer files -- were to be destroyed immediately.

For reasons that remain unclear, at least some of those materials were not immediately destroyed. Specifically, a computer at Comprehensive Drug Testing Inc., one of two labs previously used by MLB for steroids testing, contained the names. And unfortunately for the 104 players, Jeff Novitsky and other federal agents investigating ties between BALCO and 10 specific MLB players seized the computer and found the damning files. The MLBPA and the federal government are litigating the legality of the agents' seizure in U.S. v. Comprehensive Drug Testing, with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit set to issue an opinion. The MLBPA contends that the government only had probable cause to investigate the 10 specific players, meaning the other players suffered an unreasonable search and seizure under the 4th Amendment. The government, in turn, asserts that all of the evidence was intermingled and no player's 4th Amendment rights were violated.

Regardless of the Ninth Circuit's forthcoming decision (or of an unlikely review by the U.S. Supreme Court), a number of people are aware of the remaining 102 names. Any of those persons has the capacity to leak the names, which they might be tempted to do for a variety of reasons. They may, for instance, dislike one or more of the named players and want to settle a score. Or perhaps their intentions are more sinister: they could threaten to disclose a name or names unless compensated in a blackmail scheme.

..snip

Let's see what happens.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:16 PM
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1. No, because it's unfair, and everyone hates Bonds, and everyone is a jerk
and everyone should leave Bonds alone and everyone doesn't play fair and everyone...
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:52 PM
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2. Thanks for your well thought out insight, cboy!
:D

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 06:01 PM
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4. Barry receiveds hate from everyone, undeserved, put a serial killer out on the
field and more people will cheer him than Barry...it's unfair, it's unfair, and you know I'm right, and everyone knows he never took steroids...you're just jealous.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:53 PM
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3. I sure hope not.
What an incredible waste of time and money that would be. Especially in light of the serious crimes that have been committed against this country that no one will even bother looking into, let alone prosecute for. Baseball is just a game, it's nothing more than entertainment. And people have been "getting an edge" in all sports since they've been in existence.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 06:06 PM
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5. "Baseball is just a game"?
Man oh man oh man. Are you from another country or something?

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 06:30 PM
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7. I hate that movie.
Shoeless Joe jackson was a lefty, they had him batting right. Ridiculous.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 06:26 PM
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6. Baseball is a game, yes. But professional baseball is a multi-billion dollar business.
If CEO's of multi-billion dollar companies are accused of cheating, why should CEO's and employees of multi-billion dollar sports enterprises be subjected to the same scrutiny?
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:08 PM
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8. US Congress to revisit Sosa statements of 05.
Yup. With all the shit going on in this country, this is high priority. Whatever.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:15 PM
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9. Remember that MLB is a multi-multi-billion dollar enterprise.
Considering that the amount of money being spent by patrons on this business, maybe there is a need for some sort of oversight. Bud Selig/ MLBPA/ and the owners are NOT providing ANY oversight.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:07 AM
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10. No It Won't
The answer he gave to Congress were intentionally invasive. He never "broke the laws of the United States or the DR". That's what he said. Well, if he took them there, he didn't break US law, and in the DR, it's legal. He didn't actually say he never took them.

He said he never injected himself and never had anybody inject him. Well, he could have taken strictly oral 'roids. So, he didn't lie there.

His answers were just diffuse enough that no lie could be proven, so they're be no investigation.
GAC
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:27 AM
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11. No. Because the information about Sosa was released illegally
The lawyer who did it would probably be disbarred if discovered. Not defending Sammy, he's obviously a liar but when your source of info is tainted legally...
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:27 AM
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12. Oh I see
so Sosa's info was obtained illegally but in your opinion the Bonds prosecution is above reproach..This despite the fact of the documented intimidation of Greg Anderson's family and the judge herself dressing down the prosecution on numerous occasions, including for a flawed indictment and ruling their key "evidence" inadmissible.

Gee, for some reason the word hypocrite keeps coming to mind...

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:35 PM
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14. Mind?
Notify the media.
GAC
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:34 AM
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13. I'm tired of the steroid apologist saying "it wasn't against the rules of baseball to take steroids"
Well, it may not have been on the MLB's books, but it was on the books of the USA. Steroids are a CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. If you or I possess steroids without a prescription it is a CRIME. Not unlike if I possess oxycodone without a prescription. If it wasn't illegal in the US, then do these "trainers" smuggle the steroids and why don't the athletes just admit that they are taking them? 'Nuff said.

I suppose the apologist could just argue that the law is unjust and should be disobeyed, not unlike marijuana or Ecstasy.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:37 PM
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15. "but they didn't KNOWINGLY use the steroids"
:wtf:

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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 06:36 AM
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16. That's correct. Someone they knew just told them to place "flaxseed oil" under
their tongue and to rub strang ointments on their muscles and to take pills and shots without knowing what they are. After all, professional athletes arent usually that concerned about the state of their bodily health.
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