Eagles fans cheer Vick's return to NFL (standing ovation)

[WriteDown]

Source: FoxSports

Maybe this really is the City of Brotherly Love.

Michael Vick was showered with amore Thursday night in his Philadelphia Eagles debut. Not beer and batteries from drunken louts a la former Dallas coach Jimmy Johnson. Not stuffed animals, as one anti-Vick faction had contemplated.


Eagles fans — a surly lot that once pelted Santa Claus with snowballs — gave Vick a Rocky Balboa-type welcome whenever he played in a 33-32 preseason win against Jacksonville. The pregame protests expected because of Vick's prior involvement in dog fighting fizzled as well.

"I didn't think it would be that positive," Vick said of the crowd reaction during his postgame news conference. "I was very pleased."....

Read more: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9995466/Eagles-fans-cheer-Vick's-return-to-NFL

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There are no words.

Not sure if its LBN, but seems to be important.

[VMI Dem]

1. Good for them.

I would have cheered him too.

[nyc 4 Biden]

55. Awesome.

You're a tough guy, congrats.

I wish I was at that game.

Vick is a scumbag.

[JeanGrey]

2. I can't tell you how disgusting this is.

It just goes to show you that if you can play football or sing or show up in a movie, this country will give you anything, and I do mean, anything. Sometimes I think there is no hope for us as a species.

[LynneSin]

6. You know I'm an Eagles fan and I have this to say about Vick

First, what he did was horribly disgusting and makes me ill when I think about it.

Second, he has served his time and making amends. He can't bring those dogs back to life but he is in a position where he could do alot of good in the area of Animal Cruelty. He could talk about what he had done and why it was wrong and be a guidance to young players in the NFL about avoiding the pitfalls of fame.

He can't bring back the animals that are dead but perhaps he can help save some animals in the future. I do believe in 2nd chances and Vick was just handed a golden opportunity of a 2nd chance. I like that he is working with Tony Dungy, who is a very good role model and mentor for Vick.

[rpannier]

100. I'm an Eagle's fan too

My problem is...I don't trust him

His dog fighting 'business'
Then he lied to the Commissioner
He lied to the owner of the Falcons, a man Vick said is his friend and someone he admired
He lied to the media
He lied to his fans
Then he failed his mandatory drug test when he tested positive for marijuana

The man has constantly lied for the last 3 years (minimum).

I hope he does get his life on track, but his actions over the past few years say oherwise

[hlthe2b]

7. We are largely a very superficial people... Entertainment is all

for some people. Celebrities equate to God....Money, the end-all, be-all.

And we wonder why the world increasingly believes American no longer stands for anything, that we've lost any moral compass.

[OnyxCollie]

46. Why do you think Tom DeLay is on "Dancing with the Stars?"

I cringed when I saw Chimpy on "America's Funniest Videos."

Why, they can't be morally bankrupt, lying war criminals. They're funny.

[JeanGrey]

77. I totally agree with you! It makes my heart sad,

it really does that we are so superficial.

My son also made a comment that made me a little angry but I think he definitely has a point. Regarding Vick he said he could have ran over his wife or girlfriend with his car, and he wouldn't have been punished as much as the dog thing.

He said he couldn't understand why we elevate animals above people, and I must admit, as I said, he's got a point.

:shrug:

[litlady]

98. I don't get how he was punished - he didn't even serve a third of his proposed sentence.

He didn't serve even one standard three year count of animal cruelty. How was he punished????

[JeanGrey]

103. He served what he was given. Are you saying he didn't

serve the sentence he was given?

[litlady]

105. He did not serve even close to a normal sentence, but he served what he was given.

Here are some others that got 30-100 years: http://www.hsus.org/acf/news/dogfighter_gets_102_year_sentence.html

[chimpymustgo]

97. So what should we do - stone him? Vick deserves another chance. Teddy Kennedy got one.

Redemption is not only possible - it's all around us.

[rpannier]

101. How about remembering that all this man has done for the last 3-4 years is lie to everyone

As I said earlier, I hope he turns it around

But let's not forget, he's been treating everyone like they're stupid with his constant lying

[snooper2]

27. Another one who wants him to sell tires...

retail....

:eyes:

[JeanGrey]

78. Sell tires? Where did I say I wanted him to sell tires?

The truth is Vick was causing trouble long before the dog incident, and I'll just about bet you, it won't be long before round 2. I hope not for his sake.

And by the way, I know a lot of people who would LOVE to have a job "selling tires". ANY job

[Teaser]

3. not this Eagles fan...

but in the end, I can't blame Vick for trying to get on the team. It's rational for him. I can blame Jeff Lurie, Joe Banner, and Andy Reid, who after years of going on about wanting a "character team", show us what they really think of the idea "character".

I still have the Phillies, at least.

[LynneSin]

14. Wow, I'd hate to get on your bad side

No one is asking you to forgive Vick. But what if Vick uses this opportunity to make a difference in this world. The biggest flaw in Vick's early career was that he was a real 'rags to riches' story having come from the projects in Newport News, VA and finding himself an overnight millionaire. The NFL doesn't teach these kids how to deal with their new found wealth and many of them end up spending it foolishly and doing stupid shit like what Vick did with the dogs.

Vick is working with Tony Dungy, who is a very respectable and stable influence that can perhaps guide Vick into redeeming himself. It won't bring back the dogs but Vick could make a difference out there.

But I don't go for 3rd chances. Vick has one and either he needs to grow-up and take responsibility for what he has done or that's that.

[cindyfaulkner]

17. Um Mr. Vick may

have been poor at one time but had been in the league for six years I believe. That was more than sufficient time to have risen above that" culture he grew up in" so that excuse does not fly. He did it because he is a sadist and liked it. Period.

[LynneSin]

39. you think that change happens overnight

:eyes:

We as liberals have forgiven alot worse. And we as liberals (although not all of us) eat and wear animal products that have probably been thru similiar if not worse torture than what the Vick dogs went thru. Alec Baldwin wrote a great opinion piece about the whole Vick incident that discussed just that. Is it because that these were animals considered to be pets and not animals considered to be lunch and/or clothing that we feign such outrage?

I'm not a fan of Michael Vick, I'm on the 'wait & see' bench. And I don't believe in 3rd chances. But I also don't believe in hypocrisy.

And btw, you and others who read this might be Vegans and perhaps this post doesn't fit who you are. But to me this whole Vick thing is like fighting to save the fetus and yet going out there and supporting war and the death penalty.

[Teaser]

18. Yeah, you probably would, but Vick ain't on my bad side.

However, Eagles management is, because they are liars. More power to Vick. If he redeems himself, great. I hope he does good things in the world from now on. But Eagles management has systematically lied to their fan base over the years on a variety of topics. This just being one of them.

This is a cumulative effect here, not just one incident.

[WriteDown]

21. Not sure Tony Dungy is helping....

HAMPTON, VIRGINIA—During a preseason conditioning workout Tuesday, Michael Vick's de facto mentor, Tony Dungy, peppered the troubled quarterback with innocent questions about the sport of dogfighting, offhandedly inquiring about how "cool" it is. "So, yeah, how fun was that, anyway, the whole dogfighting thing?" asked Dungy, while the two jogged side-by-side during a cooldown. "Must have been a real rush watching those dogs go at it like that, huh? Morally reprehensible, of course, but, man, it's got to be tempting to head back to the pit and just mix it up a little. Good thing you're not doing that anymore. So bad." Dungy later showed Vick a photo of his new pit bull, Tex, and asked him what he thought

*courtesy of The Onion

[Missy Vixen]

53. Actually, I have to respectfully disagree

>The NFL doesn't teach these kids how to deal with their new found wealth<

The NFL works with rookies during their yearly symposium on how to effectively deal with sudden wealth.

>Vick is working with Tony Dungy, who is a very respectable and stable influence that can perhaps guide Vick into redeeming himself.<

Tony Dungy is a homophobe at best.

Vick's "road to Damascus" conversion is worth six million dollars. Nothing more. Poor Michael Vick. It's unfortunate he's more interested in blaming everyone and everything around him than actually taking some responsibility for himself and his behavior.

[Altoid_Cyclist]

62. You beat me to it.

Dungys' views on Gay marriage and homosexuality in general are pretty dated. As far as the dog fighting, I won't comment since my Dad and Uncle were both Veternarians.

[JeanGrey]

80. Why in the world should the NFL have to "teach" anyone

how to deal with their finances? If this is the case, we probably should be asking WHY they are getting these huge sums of money.

[JeanGrey]

79. That is the case in a LOT of professional athletes, not just

Vick. Their only way out is sports, but it doesn't always help them. I remember reading that either the NFL or the team Vick was playing on (Falcons) had a full time person around just to tail Vick and try to head off any "trouble" before it happened. I wouldn't be surprised if that is still happening.

I truly hope that the prison time he served will truly change him and make him realize that he is one lucky guy, and to turn his life around. :-)

There are so very many people out there who find themselves not even able to get ANYONE to hire them, or even a place to live because they were once on the wrong side of the law.

[lamp_shade]

4. Aren't these the same fans that "boo" Santa Claus?

[Teaser]

8. oh God, that old trope. Please read...

Let me explain that...

The Eagles management had systematically dismantled the franchise, left it a shell of itself. Because of that, it was the last game of a 2 and 12 season, a miserable performance. The mangagement had failed to clear the snow from the stadium (there had been a snowstorm the night before). So fans were sitting in snow, were cold, and miserable and angry. There was supposed to be a decent halftime show featuring Santa. He never showed. So the management recruited some dude from the stands in a crappy Santa suit and told him "just run between the goal posts kid, and you're done. That's it."

So the people see this crappy Santa halftime "show", clearly slapped together by uncaring management at the last minute, and decided to take out their frustrations at that moment.

But make no mistake. Santa wasn't the target. Team ownership was.

[WriteDown]

11. It would seem that the way to punish team ownership

would be to stop going to the games and buying their merchandise.

[Teaser]

16. well if you have a time machine

feel free to travel back to 1968 and let some angry and disappointed people know that.

At least our fans don't burn out motherfucking city down when we win something.

I'm tired of my city being slagged for some 40 year old incident that wasn't ever as egregious as its been made out to be.

[WriteDown]

23. I am of course speaking in general...

Eagles fans as well as many others gripe about being lied to or gripe about incredible salaries, but no one ever stops buying the jerseys, hats, tickets, etc.

[Teaser]

28. That's a human problem though

and I agree. I will not be watching games this year, or buying merchandise.

But sports is like a drug in many ways. It get's our adrenaline going, gets some endogenous opiates made. Many people are, literally, addicted to it. As such getting them to quit as opposed to misdirecting their dissatisfaction is difficult.

[bluestateguy]

5. I hope some linebacker breaks his neck

I'd cheer very loudly for that.

[Teaser]

9. I wouldn't go that far.

Ray Lewis is still a free man, after all.

[nc4bo]

10. What a horrible thing to say. nt

[rfranklin]

13. Yeah, he should only be temporarily paralyzed...

after all, we are compassionate liberals.

[cindyfaulkner]

12. Me

too. It's not about making him do penance I have a feeling he could care less only that he got caught. It's about some thing like this does not belong as a role model for people at all.

[sledgehammer]

37. If someone accepts responsibility for what they've done

Then pays their dues in terms of jail time, bankruptcy, decimated reputation (his name is synonymous with animal cruelty, and justifiably so), lost revenue in the tens of millions, etc.

And then at least commits to turn their life around and encourage others not to make the same mistakes the did.

Is that not a good sign, and something people should at least acknowledge and not belittle?

No one justifies what he did, and I mean no one. Vick's legacy will always be tainted with animal torture and murder - he will always be the poster boy for animal cruelty. But his legacy could also have a chapter on how to accept responsibility and turn things around. We need more of those stories - the people have given him a chance, it's entirely in his hands now.

[JeanGrey]

81. I have to disagree somewhat. PLENTY of people

have tried to "Justify" what Vick did. I can't tell you how many times I've heard "it's a cultural thing" in an attempt to do just that.

[redqueen]

15. Didn't take too long.

8 minutes before the first post advocating violence.

[cindyfaulkner]

19. so what

[redqueen]

20. Advocating violence isn't ethical.

Fucking DUH. :eyes:

[cindyfaulkner]

22. Who said killing innocent animals was ethical

either. FUCKING DUH

[superduperfarleft]

24. Then why do so many people eat them? n/t

[VMI Dem]

25. So you're the same or worse?

Worse I think.

[cindyfaulkner]

30. Well no

I find the whole thing so reprehensible and vile and the thought that the man has a "right" to a job in the NFL again it made me join the ASPCA and PETA so you don't know anything and no I don't eat meat.

[superduperfarleft]

31. PETA to this day still wants those dogs euthanized.

Even the ones that were rehabilitated by Best Friends. Might want to research who you're giving your money to in your crusade to "make Vick pay."

[VMI Dem]

32. Yet you wish violent harm upon human beings.

Morally reprehensible. How far are you from actually carrying out such harm?

[Buzz Clik]

38. I put that one on ignore. I refuse to feed the beast.

[redqueen]

I honestly cant tell if it's earnest...

or a you-know-what.

It's not like many long-time DUers don't do the same damn thing.

Going just by post count though... yeah you're probably right.

[redqueen]

45. Nobody.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem or something? If you do, good luck with that.

To reiterate... nobody in this thread is wishing harm on animals.

You, however, are defending the idea of advocating violence.

Shame on you.

[Buzz Clik]

36. Another troll.

[ElboRuum]

51. Welcome to DU... I... um... guess...

:shrug:

[bluestateguy]

34. Football is a very violent game

You should have seen how bad it was 100 years ago.

[redqueen]

42. Lame.

What, that's supposed to be an excuse?

In case you sincerely aren't aware, there's a big difference between watching a sport in which violence is part of the game and actively wishing harm on someone.

[Buzz Clik]

35. Lovely! What a fine display of humanity on your part.

[raystorm7]

40. Just come out and advocate him to be dead. I'm sure that will make you happy.

[hamsterjill]

84. I couldn't agree more.

The sooner, the better.

[superduperfarleft]

26. I could care less about football...

but it seems those calling for Vick's head are in the minority in the Philadelphia area, despite how loud this minority is.

Not taking a position either way, but I'm not too surprised that it was a non-issue for many people.

[bc3000]

29. E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles!

For those who hate Vick, you will be pleased that he landed on a team that is doomed to never win the Superbowl.

[Buzz Clik]

33. He committed a crime, He paid a serious price. It's over. Move on.

[LynneSin]

41. Good luck with that

I'd like to give the guy a second chance, I think he could do some good and not just on the field.

[Buzz Clik]

47. Meaning what?

[LynneSin]

49. Oh I agree with you 100%

Just saying that you'll probably get jumped on by others.

[Buzz Clik]

56. Ah, yes. That is true.

[raystorm7]

44. For real. Vick has done all that was asked of him instead of end up dead =/

[Le Taz Hot]

43. Well, as long as football fans are happy,

that's what's important. :sarcasm: I think a good "clotheslining" by some big bad ass animal-loving linebacker would be a nice kind of karmic irony.

[Buzz Clik]

48. Gee. What do I think of people who make comments like yours?

You put the life of animals higher than that of humans, and you wish for violence upon other people despite abhoring violence toward animals.

I'd call you a pig, but I think you'd consider it a compliment.

[Le Taz Hot]

50. What can I say, there Ace?

Football is a violent game. People get hurt. I didn't make the rules. Besides, I think you need a little reading comprehension refresher. Nobody wished anything on anyone. I just threw out a little "what if" scenario. It seemed appropriate since he HUNG THE DOGS THAT LOST THEIR FIGHTS. Get the connection? I knew you could.

[Buzz Clik]

57. Oh. I thought that Vick was convicted of that crime and served time in jail.

He lost all his contracts and filed for bankruptcy. And now you're wishing for him to be injured, too?

Sorry, but I think I'm beginning to see why you value animals so highly -- you behave like one.

[nyc 4 Biden]

54. Well, I don't wish violence against other people.

I only wish violence against people who torture innocent animals.

[Buzz Clik]

58. How civilized of you.

He was punished for his crime, but now you get to play God.

Shall I worship you? I think not.

[nyc 4 Biden]

61. You're right, it's much more civilized to torture dogs.

I think there should be a list for animal torturers comparable to the current sex offenders list.

[Buzz Clik]

64. So, there's no end to his punishment? And you get to decide that?

[rpannier]

102. When we can be sure he's finsihed lying to everyone

then we can move forward

Until then, everything he says and does should be treated with suspicion.

[LynneSin]

60. I hope you're a Vegan then

Because everyday we use products made from animals that were just as inhumanely treated if not worse.

I see this judgement no different that freeper right-wingers who will fight to the end to save a fetus but turn around and cheer on war or the death penalty.

BTW, I'm not a vegan although I do try to be cruelty free products and organic foods. However I am also not a hypocrite and believe that Vick has served his time and has the opportunity to use this second chance for good.

I don't hand out 3rd chances.

[nyc 4 Biden]

63. I don't think the punishment was severe enough for Vick.

I do agree that he should be allowed to redeem himself in society, I just don't think he should be playing in the NFL. But I guess the blame for that lies with the NFL and not Vick.

[Buzz Clik]

65. I see. So what occupation would be okay with you?

[nyc 4 Biden]

68. One where he is not a role model.

[Buzz Clik]

70. That would eliminate being a father. Would you have him castrated?

[sledgehammer]

72. Just being an NFL player does not make one a role model

A person's actions define that. Vick will only be a role model if he changes his life around and makes amends for his horrific actions, and encourages others to do the same.

People believe he can. It's up to him now. If he does succeed, then there's no reason he shouldn't be a role model.

[LynneSin]

73. Well then we should have thrown Ted Kennedy out of the Senate back in the 60s

I mean he was responsible for the death of a woman AND he was charged with manslaughter. God forbid we let Ted Kennedy to continue to serve in a position where he could be considered a role model and have influence over other people. A position that doesn't pay on the same level as an NFL QB but still pays alot better than most jobs offered to people who were charged with a crime.

Or, perhaps as the progressive minded people that we are, we give people 2nd chances. Because look what Ted Kennedy did for the next 40 some years and the impact it had on this country.

I don't think Michael Vick will ever be a Ted Kennedy; I doubt anyone could. But I think Vick has been given an opportunity to make something of his life using his position as a player in the NFL or he could revert to his old ways. It's all a big 'wait & see' but anyone who has served their time deserves a 2nd chance. I'll hold judgement until I see what Vick does with his.

[LynneSin]

67. The NFL might be the one chance where he can make some good out of this

It's all going to be a 'wait & see' situation.

I could be wrong about him, but I'd like to think that I would give him the 2nd chance that everyone deserves once they have served the time for the crime committed.

[Buzz Clik]

71. +1

[lucky leftie]

85. Your point about mistreatment of animals

in America is a good one. I've heard many people damning Vick on Philly sports talk radio and I can't help but wonder, are they equally incensed by the inhumane treatment of livestock that is raised for food? Do they plan to be out there protesting on the first day of hunting season?

Vick served his sentence and is entitled to a 2nd chance. Btw, thanks for your stalwart defense of Philly fans. I'm not a huge sports fan but I live with 4 of them. Sportscasters love to tell that Santa Claus story but rarely get it right. Yes, philly fans expect to get what they paid for and don't kiss up to millionaires who are underperforming. That's fair and appropriate, in my book.

[Forkboy]

86. "don't kiss up to millionaires who are underperforming"

This story would say otherwise.

[lucky leftie]

87. Vick is hardly a millionaire.

He's deeply in debt, in fact. And it's too soon to accuse him of underperforming, he's been out of the game for 2 years and has only been practicing for a few weeks.

[Forkboy]

89. yes, he's barely getting by, the poor guy. He'll be on food stamps any moment now.

ESPN.com reported Saturday that Vick will be paid his $1.625 million 2009 salary unless the Eagles release him before the season opener. Any possible regular-season suspension will not affect Vick's salary. In 2010, ESPN.com said, Vick is due a $1.5 million roster bonus March 5. In addition, his base salary in 2010 is $3.75 million, $1 million guaranteed. He can make an extra $2.75 million in incentives.

http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blog/2009/08/vick-contract-andrews-update-westbrook-returns-plus-the-injury-of-the-day.html
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The plan that will be offered will leave Vick with one house (instead of five) with a big mortgage, one vehicle (instead of eight) and his NFL retirement money (all of it). There will be a forced auction of four pieces of real estate, and there are substantial mortgages on those properties. Market uncertainty and the large loans will limit the money that will go to Vick and his creditors.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=munson_lester&id=4399100

Only one house? How will he ever manage? Save the pity party for his financial hardships. I'm not buying it. He wouldn't last a day with my income.

[lucky leftie]

90. Who said I pitied him?

You implied that Vick is an underperforming millionaire and I disagree, period. Yes, his salary is ridiculous and obscenely large, as many professional athletes' salaries are. Do I pity him? Certainly not. He may owe several times the amount he will earn this year but with some luck and hard work he may eventually be able to buy back his other 4 houses.

[Forkboy]

91. And I showed that he IS a millionaire.

It's more than an implication. As for underperforming....well, I guess it's hard to be an underperformer when one was never an overperformer to start with.

*55 fumbles in six years.
*155 yards per game passing/career, 106th in the NFL
*12.6 passes completed per game/career, 103rd in the NFL
*75.7 QB rating, 81st in the NFL
*5.4 net yards yards per pass attempt, 144th in the NFL
*53.8% pass completion percentage, 134th in the NFL

The guy is a thoroughly average player. He rushes well, but that depends on broken plays half the time, not because those plays were drawn up that way. There's been some scramblers who would go on to be excellent players (Tarkenton springs to mind), and maybe someday Vick will be one of them. As it stands now though, he's just a glorified Kordell Stewart.

[lucky leftie]

92. According to the plan

approved in bankruptcy court on Thursday, Vick will receive $300,000 of his salary per year and the rest will go to creditors and lawyers. He is not a millionaire.

It remains to be seen whether Vick will underperform in Philly. If he does, the fans who aren't willing to ostracize him for life for his crimes will turn on him, you can be sure.

[Forkboy]

94. I'm not ostracizing him for life at all.

But his crimes were of the nature that it makes me need to see a lot more from him than words. Words mean nothing to me from people unless coupled with actions that back that up. If Vick can do this then more power to him, but it'll take me seeing this for longer than a month or so after being released to believe it's honest. I tend to be skeptical of people who suddenly find God only after fucking it up with everyone else. It may well be honest on his part, but I need to see it before believing it.

[LynneSin]

93. To be fair, that was Alec Baldwin's point. He wrote a great op-ed piece for Huff Post

and it really made me rethink the whole Vick situation. And I'm not vegan and my family does hunt. But I do try my best to read labels before buying and avoid products known for their animal abuse. But I truly believe that only a Vegan has any right to hold judgement against Vick because they are someone who, without a doubt, do no harm to any animal. The rest of us are overlooking our own contributions towards animal cruelty while judging another.

[JeanGrey]

82. Yes, exactly. The part about as long as football

is happy.

[robcon]

52. Good for Eagles fans.

They can be tough, but they have forgiven Vick, as we all should.

Vick's troubles created a humbler and more balanced person, IMO.

[nyc 4 Biden]

59. Did they really "forgive" Vick or...

...is it a case of "yeah he is an asshole, but he is OUR asshole."

I wonder if vick would have signed with another team and then played at philly on the visiting team, what sort of welcome he would receive.

[redqueen]

74. Considering the fact that they cheer when the other team's players are injured...

who fucking knows.

[LynneSin]

75. We also gave Sarah Palin a loud razzing boo too

We aren't all that bad.

[redqueen]

76. Yes, there is that. (nt)

[Auggie]

66. Some people would applaud a turd in a punchbowl.

[joeybee12]

69. If it was a celebrity they would...n/t

[Forkboy]

83. I saw a poll on NFL.com where about 65% of the respondents said he should play in the NFL.

I suspect he would have gotten that response in many towns.

Which is a sad fucking commentary on the pedestal we place celebrities/athletes on. Just what do you have to do to lose your standing in life anymore? Obviously, torture is a-ok, so lets' get some full on, cold blooded murderers for us to root for!! YAY TEAM!!!

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Blue Devils
Crimson Tide

Real Indians
Sick of Redskins
And Tomahawk chops

It seems to me
That to stay mean
These names should change with time

The New York Muggers
Detroit Murders
And Chicago Mob

Boston Bigots
Texas Swindlers
And the L.A. Cops

Miami Drugs
New Jersey Dumps
Take on the Denver Smog

Seattle Fads
New Orleans Hoods
Milwaukee Cannibals

San Diego Jarheads
And the Arizona Drought

That's mascot mania

Go, Carp, go!
Salmonbellies rule!
Hit 'em harder Cops!
But, a hockey team called The Mighty Ducks?

Head explode when Dallas Oswalds
Meet Washington Bribes
Home team band plays Cop Killer
When L.A. comes to town

Pittsburgh Polluters
Houston Drive-Bys
Don't stir near the fear
When the Florida Abortion Bombers
Meet the San Francisco Queers

That's mascot mania

Anywhere you go
The games the same old thing
Bet your money on the Bribes
They always win

[Onceuponalife]

88. He got off way too light

Let the punishment fit the crime. They should have turned a pack of rabid dogs loose on him. If there was anything left of him then he can go play hero in Filly.

[northzax]

96. eye for an eye again?

so should Donte Stallworth be run down by a car?

[flvegan]

95. He'll probably think he doesn't need to fake the "regret" he's been alleging anymore.

He's been embraced by the minions. But at least a precedent has been set. So go ahead, players. Torture animals, burn someone's house down, rape women, kill people...all will be forgiven with "time served" and crocodile tears.

[madinmaryland]

99. How did this shitstorm end up in this forum?

:wtf:

[joeybee12]

104. Most of the shit about the murderer Vick that starts in GD stays there...

...this will probably flame here for years!