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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:44 AM
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You know where they might have to put a big asterisk?


Yup.

That's the Baseball Hall of Fame. I saw it for the first time in 2002 when I went on a road trip to New York to watch the Giants play the Yankees. (Who would have guessed it was going to be the Giants who were to play in the World Series that year.)

It was a great trip .. Cooperstown was awesome of course .. I had to go in a corner a cry a little because as a ridiculously avid baseball fan, the atmosphere made me so emotional .. especially when I got to the NY/SF Giants exhibit. Oh my God.

But something was missing, or should I say, someone was missing.

That would be the all-time MLB leader in base hits, and a 17-fricken-time all-star, and a member of the greatest baseball dynasty dating back to the '70's, IMO.

Absolutely no mention of Pete Rose. Anywhere.

Yea, he bet on baseball, and he rightfully got kicked out.

But his stats were not erased and he should be included at the Hall.

Include information about the scandal at his exhibit -- just like they do at the Black Sox exhibit .. but he has to be there. You can't ignore the greatest base hitter of all time.

And I worry if Bonds and Clemens are not included .. even if they did what they're accused of doing (and we've yet to see the physical evidence), these are still two of the greatest players of all time.

These allegations will never be proved....their crimes will "only" be obstruction of justice at the most.

Put these people in the hall....put a photo of a fan at an away game holding an asterisk next to Bonds' display if need be, along with a history of the controversy. Will I like it? Absolutely not. But it's what happened when Barry didn't play at home.

Do something similar with Clemens. Maybe a photo of him sitting before Congress.

But you can't ignore these people. You can't ignore history.

As it is now, the HOF is not complete without Rose.

Does anyone else care?
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:17 AM
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1. How Do You Change It
For years I have felt Pete Rose should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame. I am not the biggest baseball fan, but I know some things about the sport. For years I have wondered how could Rose be included if the sports writers and the veterans committee would not vote him in. Is is possible for him to get any type of pardon from anyone so he could be included?

I also worry about Bond and Clemens being put in the Baseball Hall of Fame. I think your ideas about what to do if they are put in are very good. My biggest issue with Bonds and Clemens not being in the Baseball Hall of Fame is that it is possible that so many guys who are in or who will be put in used performance enhancing drugs. Therefore, it would not completely be fair to keep Bonds and Clemens out when others will go in. In addition, I think owners are also put in the Halls of Fame are the owners from the 90s going to be kept out?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:34 AM
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2. How do you change it is a good question.
I think your post is interesting.
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