Preseason visit to Dallas palace for 49ers

[madinmaryland]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/30/SPD316PGER.DTL

(03-30) 12:49 PDT -- Ownership of the 49ers will likely experience a severe case of stadium-envy this August when the team plays the Dallas Cowboys at Jerry Jones' billion-dollar palace in the third week of the preseason.

The 49ers announced their preseason opponents Monday, with dates and times to be determined later. The 49ers will play their first two exhibition games at Candlestick Park against Denver and Oakland and go on the road for the last two, at Dallas and San Diego.

The contrast between where the 49ers play and where the Cowboys will soon call home could not be greater. Despite a keen desire for a new stadium, the 49ers are stuck in Candlestick, the oldest non-renovated facility in the NFL. Dallas' new 80,000-seat $1.3 billion stadium, in suburban Arlington, will open on June 6 with a George Strait concert.

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Welcome to Dallas!!

[TZ]

1. "stadium envy"?

Hmmm--you know some of us prefer our old stadiums to the new soulless ones....:P
BTW, figgures that the opening concert for them would be George Strait....I think at FedEx the first concert was the Stones...

[madinmaryland]

2. Hmmm.

I figured you would be the third to chime in on this thread!! :P

Is Keith Richards still alive??

[TZ]

3. Yeah. He looks like a zombie but he's still alive...

And yeah I figure frick and frack will be along with their commentary soon....:popcorn:

[Upton]

4. The Niners will get a new stadium

soon enough...and you can bet it won't include a miniature penitentiary such as Jones has felt it necessary to build as part of his boondoggle.

[madinmaryland]

5. You really need to get a new meme. The one you are using is passe.

[Upton]

6. Doesn't matter if the over hyped Cowjerks

play in a new stadium....they still will perform well below expectations, something that has become almost a tradition...

When are you going to accept the facts...the whole Dallas organization is full of nothing but losers and chokers....

[madinmaryland]

7. Easy there, Pardner.

I think if you look at the history of the Cowboys franchise it will not match up with the flippant assessment you have just given them.

Have you been taking your hyperbole lessons from another DU'er we are quite familiar with?

[Upton]

8. Outside of a brief run in the early nineties

the Cowboys are a rather pedestrian 2-3 in Super Bowls.

Look, why don't you do yourself a favor... renounce this misguided infatuation you have with a team 1/2 continent away and embrace the rules of the REAL sports fan.

You'll no longer feel the shame and humiliation which accompanies the end of every Cowboy season, and you'll feel better about yourself.. in knowing that you're no longer a bandwagon jumper but can be counted among those who can proudly say..."I'm a REAL sports fan."

[madinmaryland]

14. I find it interesting that you make a false claim, and then follow it

up with the same old tired lines that have already been debunked as passe.

The Cowboys as you mention did make 5 trips to the super bowl in their first 30 years of existence in addition to a championship game pre-SB.

[cboy4]

20. And you earned every one of those titles as a Texas

native. :eyes:

[madinmaryland]

25. Irrelevant. Comment ignored.

[cboy4]

34. Of course it's not irrelevant.

It's the primary evidence that identifies you as a bandwagon jumper.

[madinmaryland]

42. Actually it is. The REAL SPORTS FAN's rules prove it so.

[madinmaryland]

43. Actually it is. The REAL SPORTS FAN's rules prove it so.

[Upton]

21. Facts

playoffs..all time

49ers-26-18 .692

Cowboys-32-24 .571


Super Bowls

49ers-5-0 .1000

Cowboys-5-3 .625

Two more victories for the greatest franchise in NFL history.

[madinmaryland]

26. "Two more victories". 32 normally beats 26, the last time I checked.

:wtf:

Actually, what you just posted indicates that the Cowboys have been to 12 more playoff games the the 49ers have been.

[Upton]

27. Yes

but it took the Cowboys 12 more games to accomplish 6 more victories..just .500..

The 49ers have a far superior playoff and Super Bowl winning percentage.

[madinmaryland]

28. That is pretty lame, upton.

[Upton]

35. Numbers don't lie

the 49ers have a vastly superior playoff and SB winning percentage. I'm stating irrefutable facts which cast the Cowboys in a bad light. Resorting to calling my comment 'lame' is equivalent to acquiescing.

[madinmaryland]

40. That really is a classic, upton.

"vastly superior" Wow!! Even Ari Fleischer couldn't spin the facts like you and cboy do!!

[cboy4]

10. Dallas has such a grim future, we should start wagering

when madinmaryland starts rooting for another NFL team in a city 2,000 miles from where he lives, and in which he has no ties.

[madinmaryland]

15. When someone has nothing to offer, they offer bullshit. Thanks cboy for proving my point.

[Upton]

23. Seems to me

a few months ago, he was thinking about becoming a Broncos' fan.

[madinmaryland]

33. Seems to me, you are making up shit again!

[cboy4]

36. When did you become a Denver Broncos fan?

**shakes head**

[madinmaryland]

37. About the same time you became a Dallas Cowboys fan.

:shakes head: at the stupidity coming from the cboy and upton.

[Upton]

38. No I'm not..

right here..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=215x85621

And this not the only occasion in which you opened the door to the possibility of becoming a Broncos fan...testing the waters, so to speak.

[madinmaryland]

39. Thanks for the laugh upton

Maybe the laugh is at your expense and your silly REAL SPORTS FAN thingie.

You two are the gift that keeps on giving!!

:rofl:

[Upton]

41. A REAL sports fan

never jokes about his allegiance to his particular team....now are you a Cowboy fan or a Bronco fan?

[madinmaryland]

44. A REAL sports fan never questions a REAL Sports fan's allegiance.

Just like I would never question your allegiance to cboy.

[cboy4]

9. Beautiful playing venues don't guarantee shite.

Ask the San Francisco Giants.



And after a few years of continued failure, I'll be able to say, "ask the stunningly unsuccessful Dallas Cowboys." (Even though that new monstrosity is just as ugly as all of the other dome stadiums).

When you win World Championships, you rarely hear complaints about the stadium .. with the exception, perhaps of the greedy owners.

I can wait until the Niners get their new stadium in a few years in either Santa Clara or San Francisco.

It will coincide with them back at the top in the NFL.

[madinmaryland]

12. The Giants Home, The House the Roids Built.

[cboy4]

13. There's no evidence of that.

The judge has thrown out everything.

I'm surprised the prosecution hasn't given up.

But maybe they don't mind losing in disgrace.

[madinmaryland]

16. Thanks, cboy!

:spray:

[cboy4]

17. The truth hurts, ha?

Or I guess in your case, the truth about losing in disgrace is hysterical.

[madinmaryland]

18. I don't know why you are gloating, about a player who was never

able to bring any sort of championship to your home town. Kind of sad actually. They paid him a brazillion dollars over the years and all he could provide them (you) with were fantasmic chokes!

And I'm not talking about Jeff Kent.

[cboy4]

19. I really should cut a check to Barry for the incredible joy

and excitement he brought to San Francisco.

Despite only one World Series trip, I mean, the 73 homer season alone was arguably more exciting over the course of 162 games, than any 4-7 game World Series title.

Just unbelievable.

Pure joy for the hundreds of games I watched him play at home.

And I'm gloating because I told everyone from day one that Barry was innocent and I was right, despite being heavily outnumbered under hostile circumstances.

Nice try though.

[madinmaryland]

22. You are really a disappointment to a lot of folks here. Worshipping

and sending many a checks to your Barry-god who was only able to lead your team ONCE to the World Series, and yet still managed to choke.

Maybe you really need to think about the REAL Giants heroes, like Willie Mays, Juan Marichal, Willie McCovey, and yes Bobby Bonds.

Have you actually been to a Giants game or are referring to the games you watched them on TV.

[Forkboy]

29. You got it backwards. Barry should be writing you checks.

[madinmaryland]

30. Kind of ironic that someone who probably can't afford BB, is writing

him checks.

[cboy4]

31. Yea, maybe you're right.

[Onceuponalife]

45. baroid should refund money

to all the baseball fans he has defrauded over the years.

At least one baseball fan knows what time it is:

[madinmaryland]

46. I think the fan that paid $1million for Barry's ball is on DU.

[Upton]

24. If anything..the evidence points in the opposite direction

Prosecutors postponed the trial because they don't have the evidence to convict Barry of lying when he said he didn't knowingly take steroids...

It's pretty simple, even for a Bonds hater, if he's not lying he must be telling the truth.

[Captain Hilts]

11. It's better for a football team to have a shitty stadium. Why have a setting visiting teams like?

Teams HATED coming to the rathole RFK was, with locker rooms that were among the smallest in the league, etc.

[madinmaryland]

32. Heh Heh! Wait til the Deadskins come to Dallas next year!!

:evilgrin:

[TZ]

47. I got to hand it to you Madinmaryland

I knew the steroid brothers would comment here but I didn't expect this thread to become QUITE so entertaining. You know, I have to admit..as much as I loathe the Cowboys, I think I'm going to have to start rooting agaisnt the 49'ers too...I've learned their fans are every bit as obnoxious as the Boys fans...:rofl:

[madinmaryland]

48. ...

Yeah. Looking back at this thread, it really is all over the place. :rofl: Even got a zinger in about the Redskins!

[Upton]

49. Is that supposed to make us feel bad?

I would assume, as a Redskin fan, you already did root against the 49ers...so really you're telling us nothing new.

:shrug:

On Edit: The Redskins were handed the '83 NFC Championship game by the officials. The fact that you were humiliated in the SB was karma talking.

[TZ]

50. 83 team had some of the best offensive numbers EVER

compiled in the NFL history. Has anyone even come close to the +40 turnover ratio? I think not. Skins well deserved to be in that SB...If you listen to what the players said, you will hear that they got cocky and partied too hard before the game.
I never particularly rooted for or agaisnt the 49'ers (except when they played the Bengals in the SB).
I can't believe you are holding a 25 year old grudge for that game..The 49'ers got a few breaks in other NFC title/playoff games agaisnt the Skins as I recall...

[Upton]

51. I'll tell you one thing

REAL sports fans never forget when their team has been cheated....as the 49ers were in '83. That game lives in 49er history as the year we wuz robbed.

You seem to suggest the Redskins may have gotten some breaks. So I'm sure you remember the great 49er comeback, tying the score at 21.. The Niners had all the momentum and the Redskins were on the ropes, then the phantom pass interference calls started...

The NFL seemed determined to put Theismann and the Redskins in the SB that year, they couldn't have an underdog 49er team ruining the party.

We will never forget.

[TZ]

52. Nice tinfoil hat conspiracy there!

Like Montana and your boys didn't get oodles and oodles of calls made for them all the time. :rofl:

[Upton]

60. The '83 NFC Championship game lives in NFL infamy

In that game Montana brought the 49ers back from a 21-0 4th quarter deficit, one of his greatest comebacks ever that is sometimes overlooked because the NFL had it's own surreptitious agenda.. that of making sure Theismann and the Redskins got to the SB, no matter what it took and how bad it looked.

Lets look at some numbers..the 'Skins were outscored 21-3 in the 4th quarter of the Championship game, and 38-9 in the SB they didn't belong in. So, in the final 5 quarters of that season the Redskins were outscored by their opponents 59-12...and this is the team I hear Redskin fans suggest is one of the best ever?...how pathetic.

What does it say about a franchise that will accept a tainted victory and then pretend it never happened? The only good that came out of it is after the SB humiliation, I'm sure some Redskin fans had wished they had never been handed the NFC Championship to begin with.

Still though, all REAL 49er fans will never forgive or forget the officials escorting the Redskins down the field in the final 6 minutes of a game that will forever live in NFL infamy.

[TZ]

61. Yeah. Infamy like the "tuck rule" game.---NOT.

Seriously, dude you have issues if this game still sticks with you. I know Montana and Rice got the benefit of many many calls in many many games (including a SB or two). So quit your pathetic whining. You look ridiculous.
I doubt if anyone outside of SF even thinks about this game. Oh and I wouldn't call the SF media exactly an UNBIASED source.
If you look up the word "sour grapes" in the dictionary you and your twin will be there...

[Onceuponalife]

58. *sob*

:nopity:

[cboy4]

56. Oh you're right .. that was a disgraceful loss.

No wonder the Redskins never make the playoffs any more.

[TZ]

57. oh yeah.

Tinfoil hat conspiracy theories from a game over 25 years ago has SOOOOO much to do with it...:rofl:

[hughee99]

53. And when the Billion dollar stadium is sitting empty in January

just like Candlestick, maybe the 49ers won't feel so bad. :evilgrin:

[NJmaverick]

54. The billion dollar palace to mediocrity?

:evilgrin: :hi:

[El Supremo]

55. Have you seen this latest picture of the Cowboy's new stadium?

It's out of this world!

[Jack Rabbit]

59. Dallas should have city envy of San Francisco

There's a pot of gold behind every tree in Dallas. But there are no trees.