Ok, Post what sports you feel are not real sports. And why.

[MrPerson]

Auto racing is not a sport. It is four left turns.

[madinmaryland]

1. Ice skating, unless it involves

hot looking chicks is not a real sport!

[petronius]

2. Anything where you don't sweat, and anything where an animal or engine does most of the work

Anyone who disagrees with me is a pimple-butted, pencil-chewing, two-left-feet-having, sports-ignorant milquetoast...

[MrPerson]

3. That would make shitting a sport.

[petronius]

5. Well sure, if you're doing it right...

[VMSMI]

13. For you, it's an art form.

[Capt. America]

4. Anything that has a "win, place, or show", such as

auto racing, track, downhill skiing, auto racing, etc; because they do not have a set of "rules" in order to score a set number of "points" in order to win a "game". Essentially, those things are "exhibition of skill"; meaning, I can run fast, ride fast or drive fast.

Separately, any thing that has judges determine the winner based on subjective "talent", such as gymnastics, are not sports. They too are exhibitions of skill.

Finally, games that are not "athletic" are not sports, even though they may have a points system and rules, such as chess, Scrabble, or Madden video games.

[Forkboy]

6. Anything decided by judges.

[MrCoffee]

36. +1

[Dr. Strange]

41. Thank you!

:applause:

[MrSlayer]

7. If there is no physical contact, it's not a sport.

For example, Golf, Bowling and Tennis are games of skill. Hockey, Football and even Soccer are sports. I believe we've had this discussion before.

[VMSMI]

14. I disagree. Track is a sport. Golf is a sport. Bowling....

for example.

But I'm a peacenik. What the fuck do I know?

[MrSlayer]

20. You are free to as wrong as you want.

That is your prerogative.

[Iggo]

39. I'm with ya on Golf and Bowling...

...which are just variations on billiards as far as I can tell.

But I have to give a pass to Tennis.

They run, they sweat, and they play real-time offense and defense, head-to-head.

[hughee99]

50. Fencing?

While there's no personal physical contact, people hit each other with swords.

[flvegan]

8. Slight correction. Auto racing is not 4 left turns. NASCAR and the like are.

F1 and IndyCar are auto racing, and have turns of all kinds. I'd also argue that F1 and the like ARE indeed sports.

[MrPerson]

9. I agree. F1 is a sport.

[Mopar151]

10. What is it with you and the NASCAR hate?

Especially when all the "facts" you cite are hooey!

[flvegan]

15. I don't hate NASCAR.

I don't care for it, but I don't hate it. What I said was that NASCAR and other oval/circle track are just left turns, and that "auto racing" as a genre certainly wasn't just that, and then I gave examples of that.

BTW, last time I checked, we do get to have opinions around this place. I'm so terribly sorry if mine doesn't match yours.

[Mopar151]

19. Well, to start with

NASCAR is not "just left turns" - never has been. All of NASCAR's major series roadrace on occasion, and many NASCAR drivers roadrace successfully in other series.
"Oval" or "circle" is a vast oversimplification. Most "oval" tracks are asymetrical or irregular in plan view, and have every imaginable iteration of elevation change and banking variation. To dismiss them all as "Just left turns" is disingenuous at best, and it's indicative of more than a difference of opinion.

[flvegan]

23. Obviously I've trodden on your sport's image.

What percentage, specifically, of NASCAR races, in a given year are on tracks with right hand turns?

[Mopar151]

30. Still not paying attention n/t

[flvegan]

32. Still no answer. n/t

[madinmaryland]

12. Obviously you have not been to Lime Rock or Watkins Glen

where they have both lefts and rights.

Of course for the pussies that want to slide around on ice and knock each other over, have at it.

[flvegan]

16. Interesting.

Do they use the entire raceway?

[madinmaryland]

18. Huh? It's a racetrack, why wouldn't they?

[flvegan]

21. I don't know.

That's why I asked. Some tracks shorten or have certain sections for specific types of racers. Jesus.

[madinmaryland]

24. Maybe you need to pay attention to auto racing!

And yes, Jesus would enjoy racing. Lots of horsepower!!!

[flvegan]

26. I do. I love F1!

[Mopar151]

22. You really should get out more n/t

[flvegan]

25. And why is that?

Because I didn't know that NASCAR (glory be, how could I not know) races on 2 whole tracks with right hand turns? Then asked a justified follow up question?

Damn, you NASCAR lovers have easily twisted panties.

[Mopar151]

27. Because you don't pay attention

Heard of TransAm? IMSA GT (now GrandAm)? Did you know that there is more than 1 NASCAR series? How about CASCAR?
All you're doing is slagging stock cat/sedan racing in an attempt to make yourself feel elite as an F1 fan. lots of luck, and you can have Ecclestone and Moseley.

[flvegan]

31. It's not a matter of not paying attention

it's a matter of not caring. I don't feel elite as an F1 fan either. Project all you want. While I realize that someone with a username that has "Mopar" in it may well have a great number of racing interests, we all don't.

Ya'll turn left now, ya hear? :hi:

[Mopar151]

34. You're really stuck on the left turns thing

Which is pretty ironic, there, Captain Keyboard. You don't know, so you talk s&*%, which shows the rest of us how little you know. Have you ever even been to a track, anywhere? I did'nt think so....Heck, I probably should explain why I slag Max and Bernie, but a fan would know....

[flvegan]

43. St. Pete Grand Prix runs 30 miles from my house.

I like to take it in when I can. It's a street track, not a race track. Daytona Intl is a good drive, but not in my interest so I wouldn't bother.

"Captain Keyboard" heh heh, you're so cute.

[Mopar151]

47. IIRC

Trans-Am was the major support series for St. Pete - You know, a tube frame, shillouette body series with pushrod engines, originally based on stock american cars. How did a purist of your caliber not burst into flames at the sight?
My work here is done.

[flvegan]

49. Like I said, I'm not a purist.

That's a label you gave me. Assholes tend to give labels in a knee jerk fashion. Just something I've noticed.

Your "work" is shoddy at best, then.

[MaineDem]

37. And pro rally drivers are some of the most talented people around

Auto racing is a skill and a sport.

All the rest are games. :)

[Mopar151]

45. Absolutely

I've known Tim O'Neill for 20+ years, and have competed with him, and the phenomenal Frank Sprongl, at fthe Mt. Washington Hillclimb.

[MaineDem]

55. I know that event well

Attended many of them, starting in what, 1990?

[Mopar151]

63. 1990-2001

Crewman 1990-92, Competitor 93-01

Maybe again in 2011, we hear.

[VMSMI]

11. Curling.

[Dr. Strange]

42. I wrote to the Curling Association...

and told them to add a timer to each rock that goes off, causing it to explode, if it doesn't get inside the circle in a certain amount of time. They didn't like my idea much.

[Mopar151]

17. Auto racing is a true sport

Skill, athleticisim,bravery,competition against both peers and absolutes, short and long term strategy, teamwork and individual acheivement in synergy - that's a sport.
Golf is a game.

[Awsi Dooger]

28. Auto racing

Fairly obvious, an engine dismisses it as a sport. I would say the same thing about boat racing or motorcyle racing or anything where the athlete(s) is not the primary determinant. Tiger Woods could take lesser equipment and win. In fact, some players say he has, particularly several years ago when Nike was starting out in golf. Mickelson ridiculed Tiger's clubs as inferior. But no way a racer could take a markedly inferior engine to the finish line in front.

Otherwise, sports are physical, not mental. Golf and tennis, etc. are the purest of sports while something like chess is not.

People who have no skill in individual sports dismiss them as non-sports, a way of relieving themselves. :rofl:

[Mopar151]

29. Who sez?

Most golf is played off a cart, or a caddy carries the clubs. To quote you directly "An engine dismisses it as a sport" No contradiction there.....And the last sentence of the first paragraph is simply not true. Been there, seen it, done it.

[mmonk]

33. Some things are talent contests instead of sports.

So I guess it depends on one's perspective.

[Condem]

35. If there is a certain skill involved against competition with similar skills...

...then it's a sport.

[RT Atlanta]

38. 'Rasslin

Any sport where the male competitors do not seem to where "cups" does not appear to be a true contact sport.

Wooooo!

[mmonk]

40. Woo Woooooo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_7RCWuAkSc&feature=related

[Mopar151]

46. The artists are dedicated

Those crazy mofo's will sacrifice a body part to make it look real - but sports don't have scriptwriters.

[RT Atlanta]

48. I agree

They are dedicated and their bodies are physically worn out by the time they reach their 40s (you can only take so many folding chairs to the back, dives off the top turnbuckle and razor blades to the forehead).

Wooooo!

[Forkboy]

44. The OP has left the building.

[madinmaryland]

53. I was wondering when it would happen.

[Forkboy]

54. The guy was pretty much begging for it.

Once he brought his stupidity to the Lounge he got bagged. :D

[sniffa]

62. I'm just wondering whose sock he was

[fishwax]

61. he held out a bit longer than I expected

I thought he was gone a couple of weeks ago ...

[LisaM]

51. Poker

It's also not History or Travel, so they should get it off all those channels.

[bluedigger]

52. Bowling and fishing.

Can I get wasted while I do it? Could I conceivably beat a "pro" at it? Not a sport.

Also contests decided by judges. Exhibitions of skill. Not a sport.

Stuff that requires no physical ability, whatsoever, i.e. chess and poker? Games. Not a sport.

[T_i_B]

56. American football for any number of reasons.

My advice is to play or follow rugby instead.

Plus, Baseball is just rounders with protective clothing.

:hide:

[RT Atlanta]

57. How about some specific reasons?

n/t

[T_i_B]

58. Ridiculous protective clothing.....breaks every few seconds....

...."time out".....the fact that extra time always has to be played if teams are level (at least in the NFL, please tell me it'as not always like that everywhere else as well).....the fact that only a small number of players are even allowed to handle the ball....it's known as "football" but the foot hardly ever touches the ball.

Is that enough?

[trumad]

59. ....

Have you ever stood on the field during an NFL game?

It sounds like a 20 car pile up on the LA Freeway.

The size and speed of the NFL makes an English Rugby team look like a bunch of Nuns playing Lawn Darts on a Sunday.

Oh Rugby is tough no doubt... But your average Rugby player would last 10 plays in an NFL football game.

[T_i_B]

64. I'll believe all that when they stop wearing the stupid body armour.

[RT Atlanta]

60. I disagree...

Your comments seem more reasons why you dislike the sport, rather than disqualifying as a sport.

I am, however, biased with my opinion: I am a long time college football fan, having gone to a "football factory" for my undergraduate degree.

Cheers!

[ProfessorGAC]

65. Yawn

So unoriginal as to not deserve further comment.
GAC