What are the worst analogies you've seen on DU for how teh gays are "attacking OUR candidate"?

[MNBrewer]

The top two for me are:

"Yeah, like Israel is on the defense."

Implying that we have superior air power and killing innocent civilians disproportionately?

"That's like saying the guys who bomb abortion clinics shouldn't be taken to task for kiling people. After all, it's just how the anti-abortion group expresses themselves. Geez."

We're bombing *something* (not quite clear on what we're bombing), and killing people.

[madokie]

1. drink

[Ian David]

2. This is not helpful. n/t

[MNBrewer]

3. What is not helpful

Is making asinine analogies

[Hanse]

4. What's asinine...

is making up dumb strawmen.

[MNBrewer]

7. What strawmen?

[Hanse]

8. The "analogies" you've just made up.

Link or STFU.

[Name removed]

9. Deleted message

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[Hanse]

10. Ah, as I figured.

You completely misrepresented the argument.

I notice you forgot to leave out the part where the other person was arguing that you can't support gay people and disagree with "them" on the Warren issue. As if gay people were of one mind.

I didn't read the other thread. It was from a hypocrite PUMA who had no objection when Hillary Clinton was palling around with Rick Warren. Which is just one more reason why this phony outrage is a big pile of bullshit.

[MNBrewer]

11. This is about the worst analogies

and, have you spent any time on DU actually talking with the GLBT members about how we feel about the Warren issue and what we think it portends?

Not that it matters. You've got your mind made up on the issue. No need to read.

[Hanse]

12. I'm as offended by Rick Warren as anybody.

But I'm not interested in exploiting anything to refight primary bullshit.

[MNBrewer]

13. This has nothing to do with the Primary

and everything to do with the shape of the Obama administration.

Hint: Obama is the next president.

[Hanse]

14. Oh, I'm afraid it does.

You just provided a link written by a PUMA arguing we should have chosen Clinton instead, because of the Warren issue. Yet, Clinton was associating with Warren just like Obama is.

" everything to do with the shape of the Obama administration."

Warren has absolutely nothing to do with Obama admin. policy. It's a damn lie. And why I won't take anybody seriously when they say otherwise.

[MNBrewer]

15. You're calling ME a liar?

and you say that thread argued that Clinton should have been chosen instead of Obama?

Do a search for the word "Clinton", and see that it's not there.

PUMA? Anyone who brings up THAT term is the one who is refighting the primaries.

[MNBrewer]

17. The reference to Clinton in the OP was to Bill, not Hillary

[Hanse]

21. More hypocrisy from the anti-Obama people.

Bill Clinton had a vicious homophobe for both inaugurations. Even gave him a medal.

[Ian David]

18. ...

[hlthe2b]

19. the OP seems to want to fight

and predictably, has found one...:shrug:

sigh......

[Hanse]

22. Ah, good old Perry.

I bet he's loving the Warren issue.

[Two Americas]

36. I never supported Clinton

I am the person whose post elicited that analogy as a response.

I never supported Clinton.

[Two Americas]

35. that would be me

I am the "other person" and I did not say that you can't support gay people and disagree with "them" on the Warren issue.

[LostinVA]

27. He didn't make them up -- I read them myself, but you can't link

It's against DU rules.

[Ian David]

16. Well, the good news is, I guess you win. n/t

[hlthe2b]

6. agree..... n/t

[sakabatou]

5. I've put out a dispatch for many waaaaahmbulences.

[cali]

20. Can I play my

little :nopity: while we wait?

The OP is simply shit stirring.

[dsc]

23. Nice I notice you apparently had no problem whatsoever with the original posts

nor the race baiting of another poster in this thread. Glad to know we are the problem.

[cali]

24. fucking bullshit. I have lots of problems with posts that

the OP talks about. I certainly don't consider you the problem. Annoying as I often find you, I've never seen you post something solely to shit stir- and yeah, that's what I think the OP is doing; playing divisive, stupid games. Furthermore, I'm tired of the minority opinion, and yes it sure as fuck is a minority opinion, being blown up to a greater importance than the majority opinion of straight DUers.

Oh, and get stuffed with your dishonest crap about how I said you and other members of the GLBT community are "the problem".

[bluedawg12]

26. Wow talk about an unreasoned reply and PA's - chock full of them

The OP has every right to ask for an analysis and discussion of opposite points of view.

[mitchtv]

25. that poster had a lot of time devoted to saying STFU

though I don;t use ignore, I breeze through his " you have no right to criticize "posts

[xchrom]

28. recommend

[MNBrewer]

29. Unfortunately, I originally posted this in General Discussion

Which was an obvious mistake.

[bluedawg12]

30. It is a legitimate question ask how some aruguments counter to gay rights

unfairly depict the gay rights movement, gay rights activism, or for that matter, how the opinions and the impact of pro-gay rights posters are misrepresented.

[MNBrewer]

31. I don't disagree

[bluedawg12]

32. In fact, I think we agree that false analogies are unfair and do not

promote understanding or furtherance of a legitimate civil rights movement.

[MNBrewer]

33. and, that's because they're not intended to.

They're intended:
1. to get us to STFU
2. Make sure we know we're as welcome as murderers here

[bluedawg12]

34. Exactly. Unfair analogies just give us one more hurdle to jump

as they don't really reflect a simple premise: human rights are inalienable rights and do not derive from the forebearance of our fellow man.

Human rights should not be brought up for popular vote.

Laws taking away basic Constitutional rights are illegal.

The right wing has managed to breach those two ideas with their cultural wars and power and influence and some don't seem to understand that.