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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 11:09 PM
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Judge Who Gave Canada Homosexual "Marriage" Had Conflict of Interest Says Women's Rights Group says
Edited on Wed Mar-04-09 11:42 PM by Clintonista2
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jul/06071907.html

Judge Who Gave Canada Homosexual "Marriage" Had Conflict of Interest Says Women's Rights Group

By Hilary White

TORONTO, July 19, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The women’s rights organization, REAL Women of Canada, has filed a formal complaint against Ontario Chief Justice Roy McMurtry with the Canadian Judicial Council, alleging judicial misconduct. McMurtry was the judge who issued a ruling in 2003 on the Halpern case that effectively ended the traditional definition of marriage in Canada.

McMurtry’s son, James, revealed in a letter to the editor of a BC newspaper that his sister is a lesbian in a live-in relationship with another woman. This, says REAL Women, creates a serious concern that “McMurtry had a personal and familial interest” in the Halpern case, “which seriously impaired his objectivity and his ability to adjudicate the case.”

The Halpern decision essentially legalized same sex "marriage" in Canada, ruling that the traditional definition of marriage violates the constitutional equality rights of homosexuals. After this the federal government ceased to appeal the various decisions coming forward from provincial courts in favour of same-sex “marriage” across Canada.

REAL Women’s letter alleges that McMurtry’s personal interest biased the entire process and violated the “fundamental judicial obligations of office.” REAL Women says that in addition, Justice McMurtry deliberately chose and selected judges sympathetic to same-sex "marriage" to hear the case.

Gwen Landoldt, vice president of REAL Women of Canada, said the efforts of the McMurtry court to bring about such a vast change in Canadian society without input from Parliament constitutes “conduct that undermines the fundamental obligation of judges to remain objective, neutral and disinterested in the outcome of a case.”

Landoldt writes, “Under these circumstances, a fair and reasonable person would reach the conclusion that Chief Justice McMurtry failed to conduct himself ethically, objectively, neutrally and with disinterest in the case.”

REAL Women claims that bias among the Halpern case judges in favour of the homosexual rights agenda is not difficult to demonstrate. In 2003, REAL Women revealed that Justice McMurtry--along with a group of other prominent Ontario judges--had close ties to the homosexual activist movement and was on a special guest list of dignitaries at a celebration during the 2003 Gay Pride week. He, along with several other judges, were photographed at the party with Kevin Bourassa and Joe Varnell, the two principals in the Halpern case.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/jul/06071907.html

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Where to begin on this one? I'll start by pointing out that the "Women's Rights Group" mentioned is actually a hardcore RW fringe group which believes that the Woman's place is in the home. Virulantly homophobic and racist to boot. Second of all, the "Judge who gave Canada same sex marriage" was an Ontario judge, who voted with the majority in giving Ontario same sex marriage. Keep in mind, the vote was unanimous in granting equal marriage in Ontario, with not a single judge voting against it. Furthermore, same sex marriage on a federal level was granted by parliamentary vote. So this judge clearly did not "give canada homosexual marriage"

Also, don't you just love their "logic"? He knows gay people and hangs around with gay people, therefore there is a conflict of interest. Hell, I like their logic. That means that every judge who is straight and rules against same sex marriage must have their vote nullified, as there is clearly a conflict of interest.

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 11:24 PM
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1. So judges shouldn't rule on rights issues that effect anybody they know?
That's stupid.

"I'm sorry, I can't hear this racial discrimination case because my third grade teacher was black." "Sorry, nobody can hear this abortion rights case because all of our mothers were women."

In order to be able to decide cases you'd have to live in a sensory deprivation chamber.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 11:27 PM
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2. Oh, hell.........
When did that bunch of loonies show up again?

I keep forgetting about them, hoping they've gone somewhere, and there they are again.....
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 11:27 PM
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3. In other words...
Canada can be just as bass-ackwards as the United States.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 11:34 PM
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4. Strangely, I find myself completely agreeing with the DUer formerly known as Lirwin.
Edited on Wed Mar-04-09 11:34 PM by TheWraith
This is an unusual feeling for me.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 11:41 PM
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5. what? who doesn't know or have a Gay in the family
even in Canada
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 11:58 PM
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6. Sure, if the Judge had only heterosexual family and friends that wouldn't be bias?
I suspect the Judge knew both gays and (the majority of society) str8's, that makes him more fair than someone who knew only str8's or had no gay family members.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:45 AM
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7.  Canadian Womens Rights group?
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 12:48 AM by Vanje
Are they all like that up North?
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:01 AM
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8. I'm shocked. Simply shocked.
:evilgrin:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:27 AM
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9. I hope not.
That's a weird thing for a women's rights group to do. :confused: I just can't wrap my head around it. I think I need a hot water bottle for my poor pitiful head.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:50 AM
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11. I'm surprised
they even talk about gay rights. :eyes:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 10:58 AM
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13. REAL Women are nuts
This is an organization which literally once said "we're ok with women not having equal pay for equal work, because women work differently from men."


:eyes:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:31 AM
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10. i think not knowing a single person is a bias in itself.
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:52 AM
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12. Dudes. They're not a women's rights group.
They're a scary religious right women's group.

From Wikipedia:

Its objectives are:

To reaffirm that the family is society’s most important unit, since the nurturing of its members is best accomplished in the family setting.
To promote the equality, advancement and well being of women, recognizing them as interdependent members of society, whether in the family, workplace or community.
To promote, secure and defend legislation which upholds the Judeo-Christian understanding of marriage and family life.
To support government and social policies that make homemaking possible for women who, out of necessity, would otherwise have to take employment outside the home.
To support the right to life of all innocent individuals from conception to natural death.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_Women_of_Canada

I do a bit of pro-choice activism, and I've heard all about them. They're a frightening, hateful group of people.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:07 PM
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14. And.....REAL Women is similar in political and social outlook to Phyllis Schlafly's Eagle Forum
that pretty much says it all
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:18 PM
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15. Yeah, they're an offshoot of that bunch of loonies........
And I think they may have 50 whole members in the GTA, where there are 3.5 million people. I have run into them from time to time, and they always inflate their numbers, but they're not exactly at the head of the class.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:19 PM
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16. You know, you don't have to include the chrisTo-fascist "scare-quotes" when you re-post it. But...
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 06:20 PM by Ian David
... better still...

Judge Who Gave Canada Marriage Equality Had Conflict of Interest Says "Women's Rights" Group
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:26 PM
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17. copy and pasted
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:27 PM
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18. Yes, but unlike the Late-Breaking News forum, you're allowed to change them. n/t
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 07:26 PM
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19. Not a big deal
Let it go.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 07:50 PM
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20. Agreed. n/t
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