TVC: "What sort of chaos will be caused in the military by bare-backing parties and... orgies?"

[FreeState]

Traditional Values Coalition

"Imagine the impact that the rampant spread of STDs, including HIV would have on the military? How will the military handle the spread of these diseases in the barracks? How will the military handle sodomy in battlefield situations?

Imagine the impact that sexual favoritism would have in subverting military cohesion? A homosexual Sergeant who was in love with a member of his company, could protect his lover from battle – or send a straight soldier into harm’s way just to punish him for having the wrong attitudes about homosexuality. Straight soldiers could be denied promotion by militant gay officers. The military chain of command would be undermined.
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In addition to the coming persecution of straight soldiers, what about the unrestrained drug and sex antics committed by young male homosexuals? Homosexual sex is consistently related to drug use, including crystal meth and other sexually-stimulating drugs. What sort of chaos will be caused in the military by bare-backing parties and other forms of homosexual orgies?

There is also an effort by the White House and Congress to legitimate drag queens/transgenders in the military, too. The normalization of these behaviors are in many bills being pushed through Congress. This will impact the military as well.

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=3594


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OMFG - could they be any more wrong?

[hatrack]

1. Yes, because in battlefield situations, the only thing on MY mind would be . . . SODOMY!!!!

Nattering, ignorant TWITS.

[sarge43]

2. Many of the same stupid arguments they made about women

in the service.

Same song, different verse, a little bit louder and a little bit worse.

[SacredCow]

5. Exactly....

I love how they automatically assume that every woman/homosexual out there is going to fuck everything up because of the sexual/emotional hangups of straight people (men, mostly)...

[sarge43]

13. Quoting my hubby (another 20 year vet),

"So. What else is new? It isn't that the average rat face grunt has ever been noted for his saintly ambiance."

I'll second that. If I had a dollar for every time some sleaze in uniform put the moves on me, I could buy out AIG and fire the whole lot.

[SacredCow]

16. No kidding....

I got a kick out of those vintage military instructional videos that are on Smoking Gun's website... The ones discussing STDs could basically be distilled into "Women are filthy, diseased creatures- but we know you want to have your way with them, so here's what to do if one of them gets you infected." Sadly, it doesn't appear that much has really changed.

[SacredCow]

3. "Straight soldiers could be denied promotion by militant gay officers"

But it would be OK the other way around, right? :eyes:

[Maven]

11. Wait a minute. I know these mental defectives revert back to scary cartoon bogeymen

like "militant homosexuals," but wouldn't we want gay officers in the military to be "militant?" Isn't that kind of the point?

:shrug:

[Tempest]

4. The Air Force survived the Tailhook scandal

And gays have served in the military since the beginning of time.

The American Taliban fundies are losing power and are becoming inconsequential to the decision making process.

Let them tilt at windmills all they want.

[sarge43]

14. Tailhook was the Navy's faux pas.

The AF has had its fair share; it just has a better PR department.

[Tempest]

18. Damnit!

That's twice this afternoon.

I really have to do a better job of vetting. :P

[sarge43]

20. No problem

The dirtbagitis is equally distributed. :evilgrin:

[sinkingfeeling]

6. Let's look at this through reality. First, the military is one of the 'superspreaders' of STDs.

http://health.msn.com/health-topics/sexual-health/mens-sexual-health/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100171702

As if our men and women in uniform didn’t face enough threat to their well-being, the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines have historically had higher STD rates than the civilian population. The running theory has always been that personnel of a sexually active age with long tours away from home—especially those deployed to countries with limited health care—simply find or put themselves at higher risk.

A sweeping report, this one covering sexually transmitted infections of both men and women in the military from 2000 through 2005, found elevated reports of chlamydia, gonorrhea, nongonococcal urethritis, and syphilis in all branches of the military. The Army steadily led the other three branches. However, the numbers peaked in 2002, and in 2005 the rates for gonorrhea were actually lower than among civilians.

Still, STDs remain a big problem in the military. Unfortunately, viral infections—which can be treated but not cured—seem to be more commonly reported among the military than bacterial infections.

Statistics are currently lacking but the subsequent impact on hometown communities is assumed to be significant.


Then let's look at 'favoritism'. What about having officers who are sexist or racist and and put minorities in 'harm's way' or deny promotions to those who don't share their sex, color, religion or ideology?

http://www.au.org/site/News2?abbr=pr&page=NewsArticle&id=7341
Americans United for Separation of Church and State today asked Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and other military officials to move quickly to stop acts of religious bias at the U.S. Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs.

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/190.html

A whopping 75 percent of all African Americans and other military personnel of color complain that they have experienced racially offensive behavior, and less than half expressed confidence that complaints of discrimination are thoroughly investigated, according to the largest survey of racial attitudes ever conducted within the armed forces, reported the Washington Post of Nov. 23, 1999.

Furthermore: Nearly 20 percent of Blacks and 13 percent of Hispanics in uniform reported that they had been given inferior assignments or evaluations because of racial bias. Only 4 percent of whites reported such treatment.

Drug use?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2008-11-20-drug-help_N.htm
FORT LEONARD WOOD, Mo. — The number of soldiers seeking help for substance abuse has climbed 25% in the past five years, but the Army's counseling program has remained significantly understaffed and struggling to meet the demand, according to Army records.

Army records show 2.38% of all soldiers had positive results on routine drug urinalysis screening, a 10-year record. In 2004, when combat troops returned from Iraq in large numbers, 1.72% had positive results.

[FreeState]

9. Thanks for the links :) n/t

[sarge43]

15. Yeah, that placing subordinates in harm's way thing.

For people who seem to pride themselves on their religiosity, they apparently overlooked a straight
sexual shenanigan -- David, Bathsheba and Uriah. 2 Samuel 11.

[msongs]

7. umm the military has been doing those things to thousands of years already nt

[qb]

8. What an insult to the honor & integrity of military officers & NCOs.

Do they realize they are dissing the very organization they claim to defend?

[sarge43]

17. They aren't the least bit interested in the military

They're flogging their agenda and having hysterics.

99% of the military knows this is bs. It's been insulted by far better people than that silly bunch. Nothing to see here.

[tanyev]

10. They sure spend a lot of time thinking about homosexuality.

[TechBear_Seattle]

12. "Imagine the impact that sexual favoritism would have in subverting military cohesion"

A straight sergeant who was in love with a female member of his company, could protect his lover from battle - or send a rival for her affections into harm's way just to punish him for having the audacity to attract the eye of his woman.

We all know that this could never happen. :eyes:

[xchrom]

19. boy -- there must be a LOT of gay men in the military

to do all that oppressing and fucking.

[Ioo]

21. Oh shit, that is the part I have been missing in my gay sex, Meth!

[TechBear_Seattle]

25. Shame on you!

Everyone knows it is physically and morally impossible to have gay sex without drugs of some kind. Look at all the far right wingers who blame the meth and alcohol when caught in flagrante delecto?

[Chovexani]

22. LOL

Psst, fundies: real gays in the military don't act anything like the ones in those movies you can't stop watching for "research".

[bluedawg12]

23. Dang! Could they possibly fit in more stereotypes?

"There is also an effort by the White House and Congress to legitimate drag queens/transgenders in the military, too." There is?

Oooh, got to get me an admirals uniform, all shiny. :P

[sarge43]

24. Comes with a sword and cape, too. Totally fab.

:evilgrin:

[sui generis]

26. Oh gosh. they are so right!

I am joining in the military this morning.

Barebacking sodomizing soldiers IN THE HEAT OF BATTLE whilst snorting, shooting and farting coke, crack, meth, suppository opium, gerbils and other sexually stimulatin' druuuuugs.

fuck corporate america, the military is where it's at.


Who's with me?

:evilgrin:

[closeupready]

27. They so love talking about barebacking, orgies and sodomy.

Why is that?

[TechBear_Seattle]

31. Indeed. Methinks the laddies do protest too much n/t

[TheWraith]

28. Is it wrong for me to think that sounds kind of fun? nt

[closeupready]

29. These "family value" "traditional Christian values" type organizations always do this

they make gay sex sound like so much damn fun, it makes me (a gay man) wonder just why the fuck am I not having as much fun having gay sex as they make it sound like it is? :rofl:

[LeftHander]

30. Person who wrote that probably popped a boner....nt

[Deep13]

32. Remember after racial integration how all kinds of horrible shit happened?

Me neither.

"Imagine the impact that the rampant spread of STDs..."

You mean the military used to be immune from that?

[TechBear_Seattle]

33. Heterosexual soldiers never screw around, you see

And on the rare occasion that they do, they are always very careful to use condoms so as not to catch or spread sexually transmitted diseases.

:eyes:

[sarge43]

34. You make a good living selling bridges? n/t

[TechBear_Seattle]

36. Selling ice to the Inuit, actually. n/t

[Kievan Rus]

35. TVC is a pack of pathological liars

[bigscott]

37. WTF?

What sort of chaos will be caused in the military by bare-backing parties and other forms of homosexual orgies?

someone is watching too much gay porn

peace

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