Calif college student leaders condemn gay Day of Silence event

[cboy4]

:puke:

A majority of the students leaders are immigrants from the former Soviet Union and Baltic states.

I'm already on record of how much I loathe these people. (Not people from that region. I'm talking about the bigoted ones).

:puke:



By Ed Fletcher
[e-mail]
Published: Thursday, Apr. 16, 2009 - 5:41 pm

Student leaders at American River College passed a resolution today opposing a day-long demonstration scheduled for Friday in support of gay friends and family members.

The resolution passed on an 11-5 vote, but it is unclear whether the vote will have any practical effect. The "Day of Silence" encourages participants to remain silent throughout the day to express their support for gays.

Viktor Choban, a member of the 18-member council, called the "Day of Silence" pro-gay propaganda.

"I'm the victim of this propaganda. This day is meant to silence the Christians," said Choban, who emigrated from the Ukraine, like several other council members. :wtf: :puke:

http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/1785669.html

[NMMNG]

1. They're both hateful and stupid

LGBT students and their allies voluntarily remain silent for one day. How does that "silence" Christians (who, mind you, scream and stomp about this from January to April of every freaking year)? :banghead:

[foxfeet]

2. They lie. About everything.

Such good Christians.:sarcasm:

[trashcanistanista]

3. Ewww! I know exactly what you are talking about and I was not

aware they attend American River in such high numbers, and are student leaders, no less. This is strictly the former Soviet immigrants, Ukrainians mostly, they are very fundy and hateful towards gays AND people of color. They claim not to be political, but I know for a fact they hate the fact that we have an AA Prez. I work with them in Roseville and sit through their nasty remarks about Blacks and Gays. They are worse than the Mormans who at least keep their mouths shut about their hatred in public, or, try to deny it.

I have no idea where their nutty worldview originates, I avoid them like the plague. They are a lost cause. I can't believe they are the majority they need pushback. The day of silence should go on as planned. These folks need to know that their behavior is unAmerican and not tolerated. I loathe them for their influence on the Yes on 8 campaign and have not gotten over it yet.

[cboy4]

4. I should mention this is the same group of haters who passed

a resolution in support of Propostion 8. :eyes:

[davidinalameda]

19. I was going to bring that up

thanks for mentioning it

[SurfingScientist]

5. Fortunately, there is still UC Santa Cruz. NT

[bluedawg12]

6. How nice to bring reactionary ideas to Amerika.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Ukraine
>>Ukraine is a conservative, mainly Orthodox Christian, country. In Ukraine, there are no anti-discrimination laws. The Ukrainian Constitution states that citizens are equal before law, but sexual orientation is not specifically mentioned.<1> However, the list of grounds of discrimination includes an "on other basis", which could be used for gay protection, but it has never been tested in court. Homosexual sex was legalised and the age of consent equalized in 1991. No recognition with respect to gay marriage or civil unions is currently legal. Gay Ukrainians generally feel they have been ignored by the political establishment<2>.

In a 2007 country-wide survey by the Institute of Sociology 16.7% Disagreed strongly and 17.6% Disagreed with the following statement Gay men and lesbians should be free to live their own life as they wish. Only 30.2% agreed strongly and agreed with the statement. That was the lowest rating of agreed strongly and agreed with the statement" of 24 countries investigated<3>.<<

[bluedawg12]

7. Is good to bring politikal activism to free country and spread propaganda.

http://www.ebar.com/common/inc/article_print.php?sec=news&article=3388

>>Sacto college endorses Prop 8
by Dan Aiello

In a move that was called "no surprise" by Sacramento LGBT activists, the student council of American River College last week passed a resolution that called for the support of Proposition 8, the anti-gay marriage constitutional amendment.

The resolution of support is believed to be the first of its kind at any California college or university.

According to a Sacramento Bee story, the measure passed by a vote of 8-3, with three abstentions.

"No surprise," said local LGBT activist Jerry Sloan, noting that five of the eight majority votes cast were those of Slavic Christian fundamentalist students who Sloan said had "targeted the board for takeover more than a year ago." These students, explained Sloan, are members of the same religious immigrant community that has held virulently anti-gay protests at Sacramento LGBT events and celebrations since 2006.

Nine Slavic students, representing the now-defunct Christian Civilization Club, ran together for ARC's student government council in 2007.

One of the students, Dennis "Viktor" Choban, who along with the others was elected to the council, was photographed by the Bay Area Reporter demonstrating at this year's LGBT pride parade.

American River College is one of four community colleges in the Sacramento region, explained campus spokesman Stephen Peithman, adding that ARC has four satellite centers. It is a commuter college.

Peithman said that the ARC student council was elected with less than 300 of the campus's 35,000 students participating.

In Choban's application to enter the student council race, his answers make clear his religious motivation to run for the seat. In answering questions that make no reference to religion, Choban expresses his desire to see his religious beliefs reflected in ARC curriculum.

"My goals include removing humanistic bias from cerain courses, (such as Evolution Science) and presenting other views, (such as Creation Science) and, Encouraging live discussion of nontraditional views in all classes," he wrote in the application, a copy of which was obtained by the B.A.R.

Alexandru Cojan, another of the group of students to run for ARC's student council this year, listed similar views on his application. Cojan listed only one goal for his tenure as a councilmember, "To represent Christians on campus and to stand up for righteousness."

Peithman said that there is an effort by students to recall the council members who voted for the resolution.


10/09/2008 <<

[bluedawg12]

8. And here's Viktor and Yuri! With a megaphone.

natural marriage,” Viktor Choban is behind him wearing the Bible verse T-shirt, Luke Otterstad is holding the megaphone and Dick Otterstad is using the microphone to preach.
PHOTO BY KEL MUNGER

http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/content?oid=873290

Things to do in Sacramento with a megaphone
Our reporter trails a band of anti-gay protesters for six months and lives to tell the tale

By Kel Munger
This article was published on 10.23.08.

[cboy4]

9. Yup, there's the asshole .. thanks for posting that article.

I'd read it, but I went though it again.

Student Association elections are next week, so maybe there will be new blood on the board.

I know the Queer-Straight Alliance is running some people.

And a reporter for the American River College paper told me he's publishing a story next week about how the Russians control the board because it's nothing short of a good ol boys club.

I want to know how 75 percent of the board is Russian.

The rumor going around is they recruited all of their friends to pay for one unit so they could vote.

It's totally crooked .. exactly what you'd expect from conservatives.

[LeftyMom]

25. They did.

The election was right before late start classes, so people from the crazy slavic churches registered, got their student IDs, and then dropped the classes. There was some press about it at the time.

[DCKit]

17. Bwahahahahaha!!!! "...the now-defunct Christian Civilization Club"

No doubt, in the mother tongue, it's initials are KKK.

Look for this group to not only be out of power after the next election, but seriously marginalized too. They're making the whole school look like racist, homophobic morans.

[TechBear_Seattle]

10. It is meant to draw attention to the forced silence of LGBT kids

The effort of Choban and bigots like him to silence the silence is a case in point.

[sui generis]

11. we should protest bigoted Baltic students

If you want to live in Russia, move to fucking Russia! Plus everyone knows Orthodox Xtians aren't real, so who cares what THEY think.

god I don't want to have to put a sarcasm thingie here.

[cboy4]

13. I agree with you. If you want to be a bigoted Russian fuck,

then move back to Russia where it's okay for the cops to beat the shit out of gay people and take them to jail. You'd probably be happy there.

If you don't want to move back to Russia, and you plan on being a bigoted Russian fuck, then expect me to call you what you are. An asshole who's trying to force your backwards culture of homophobia on me.

I stated that I don't think all Eastern Slavic immigrants behave this way, but there are a large number in my community who do.

Tough shit if my comments bother you.

[mitchtv]

23. It is a particularly gruesome brand of Xianity

In Moscow the bishop joined with the muslims to persecute Gay Russians

[Chovexani]

12. Sadly, they tend to be homophobic and very freepish, I've found

We had a number of Baltic immigrants at my school, and the worst arguments I ever got into in my PoliSci class were with the Russian and Ukranian students. My prof was a commie pinko Canadian and she would go into apoplexy everyday at some of the stuff those kids would spout. American fundies have done a lot of outreach in that region and sadly, many seem to have bought the bill of goods hook line and sinker.

[IntravenousDemilo]

18. Ukrainians aren't Baltic.

BTW, who are those two very attractive men in the picture?

[ChelseaCenior]

14. I Don't Know

I used to participate in the day of silence, and I am all for it's message and I support the purpose, but it is the Silence part that I am not sure about, I think that when people are persecuted for who or what they are, should speak out, I get that it symbolizes those who have had to keep their homosexuality a secret, and I think that is terrible, but I think that instead of a day of silence, it should be a day to talk, about what so many people go through, and the truth about these people, and dispel lies and misconceptions. Any way, that's just a little food for thought; also I absolutely disagree with the closed minded jerks quoted in the article!

[jberryhill]

15. ROFL - the guy releases a press statement to proclaim....

...that he's being "silenced".

Consistency Fail.

[RetiredTrotskyite]

16. Most of these Asshats...

are also Eastern Orthodox Christians and believe me, they are every bit as homophobic as the rest of the fundie asshats out there. I am not surprised at this from them because the homophobia and woman hatred finally drove me out of the church and into the Old Catholics. This is what I expect from them

Gads, don't the fundies ever tire of crying "victim"?

[Kurska]

20. Orthodox Christians are brutal homophobic bastards?

Whats new?

[TEmperorHasNoClothes]

21. if only we could silence the christians..... we'd have all our rights

[mitchtv]

22. My friend has this Tshirt

"So many Christians, so few lions"

[RetiredTrotskyite]

24. AWWWWWWWW......

that would mean that people have the right not to have religion shoved down their throats.

Seriously, I would love to see it happen, but it will never happen here.