boies, olson nor tweety mentioned

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people getting married past their years of reproduction.

i say this because tweety kept wanting some special meaning being given to the word marriage between a man and woman.

the only special meaning one COULD give marriage would be between people who will reproduce.

of course -- i know this comes as surprise to many -- but many lgbtiq people have no problem reproducing -- and i'm not even talking the -- gasp -- unknowing party marriage.

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1. They were hitting the abridgment of Constitutional rights pretty hard.

Tweety was fishing, I agree. He's "still deciding."

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2. oh he's a real knucklehead sometimes.

he has admitted that he doesn't like people who make law from the bench -- what ever that means

i liked what they were saying -- but not everyone gets married to reproduce -- or i should say not all straight people.

i don't have to dig into the history of marriage -- just visit senior communities in florida and arizona.

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3. True marriage inlcudes people beyond reproductive years.

The right always ignores that.

I liked this, found at box turtle:

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http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/

I asked Olson about the objections of conservatives who will argue that he is asking a court to overturn the legitimately-expressed will of the people of California. “It is our position in this case that Proposition 8, as upheld by the California Supreme Court, denies federal constitutional rights under the equal protection and due process clauses of the constitution,” Olson said. “The constitution protects individuals’ basic rights that cannot be taken away by a vote. If the people of California had voted to ban interracial marriage, it would have been the responsibility of the courts to say that they cannot do that under the constitution. We believe that denying individuals in this category the right to lasting, loving relationships through marriage is a denial to them, on an impermissible basis, of the rights that the rest of us enjoy…I also personally believe that it is wrong for us to continue to deny rights to individuals on the basis of their sexual orientation.”<<

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4. oh i know that -- but it seems the only 'real' thing that a

conservative has to stand on is reproduction.

but what a great quote that is from olson.

i am simply stunned that he is arguing this on our behalf.

[bluedawg12]

5. Me, too.

I'm not certain how Olsen got to this side with his well known history.

However, one thing does come to mind. The recent law suit by a gayman against EHarmony was settled out of Court when they agreed to do matches for gay couples. When the story first emerged, I expected rw EHarmony to make a big stink and fight it, then, I learned that Olsen was their attorney and adivsed they settle!?
Maybe that was a clue to some change in his own being?

Who knows, even the devil can wear Prada (sometimes) :P

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6. olson in prada.

:yoiks:

[keepCAblue]

7. You can thank Chad Griffin for pulling Olson into this....

Chad Griffin is a former Clinton staffer and heavy-hitter Dem politico among Hollywood's rich and powerful elites -- his friends/clients include Rob Reiner, Steve Bing and Brad Pit, to name just a few. The lawsuit and pairing of Olson and Boies is the brainchild of Chad Griffin, who (along with unnamed backers) is calling the shots and paying Boies and Olson's retainers.

All hail and bow to Mr. Griffin!!!!

From Variety:

Show Biz Consultant Shakes Up Prop 8 Strategy

Standing with them in a Biltmore Hotel ballroom were the plaintiffs in the case, two same sex couples who would like to be married --- Kris Perry and Sandy Stier and Paul Katami and Jeff Zarrillo --- as well as the person who spearheaded the effort, Chad Griffin. Olson even credited Griffin for contacting him about the case, which is being done through the auspices of a new organization called the American Foundation for Equal Rights.

To anyone who straddles the world of entertainment and politics, Griffin is well-known. A former staffer in the Clinton White House's communications team (he, too, hails from Hope, Arkansas), he moved west after Clinton left office and established a business among the cottage industry of political consultants for prominent names. Griffin's client list includes Steve Bing, Rob Reiner, and Janet and Jerry Zucker, for which he has worked on a host of issues including environmental causes, children's education and stem cell research. But on Prop 8, and on the issue of same-sex marriage in particular, he seems to have taken a much more prominent role and avoided the potential pitfall of anyone who makes the jump from D.C. to Hollywood: You'll be pigeonholed solely as a fund-raiser.

Last year, Griffin did raise money for the Prop 8 campaign, drawing on Reiner, Bing, Ron Burkle and Brad Pitt for support. He was particularly vocal after the defeat, and even sought a meeting from Rev. Rick Warren when President Obama chose him to deliver the invocation at the inauguration. Griffin was executive producer of the documentary "Outrage," Kirby Dick's expose of closeted politicians who vote against gay rights.

Griffin contacted Olson last November, after the passage of Proposition 8, and met with him in person in Washington on Nov. 21. Although Olson had yet to go public on his views on same-sex marriage, apparently Griffin had been tipped to the fact that the lawyer's views tended toward a style of libertarian conservatism. There was a desire to find an equally prominent attorney on the left, which is how Boies joined the case.

"For even one couple to live through even one more day in state-sanctioned second-class citizenship is too long," Griffin said at the press conference.

That Griffin's new organization was able to pull off the pairing of Boies and Olson was itself a novelty that surely draws much more attention to the case, even if they had pursued it on their own. It proved surprising enough that Olson was even forced to defend his motives for pursuing the case given his conservative credentials.

"I hope people don't suspect my motives, but we have had lots and lots of conversations, and I believe this is the right position," Olson said.

From Huffington Post:

Trevor Neilson (Huff Post): "Letter from Birmingham Jail" Olson & Boies Fight for Equal Rights

Griffin has created a facebook page for his newly-formed "American Foundation for Equal Rights"...be sure to stop by and thank him and lend your support!

American Foundation for Equal Rights on Facebook