Don't blame Obama for his "I don't know which promise they were referring to" comment

[Clintonista2]

He's broken so many of his promises, it's not like he can keep track of them all.

[Ian David]

1. Give me back my sweater. n/t

[astonamous]

2. You are soooo right. At least he acknowledged the demonstrators.

Previous POTUS' didn't bother and most recently went way out of their way to avoid demonstrations all together.

[Windy]

3. While you're at it, make sure to drop Clinton a line and thank him for DOMA... nt

[queerart]

4. What Do You Know....... Clinton Is Back For A 3rd Term......

It's Clinton's fault...... Christ Doesn't That Sound familiar.....


Wasn't That Bush's Mantra? It's always the fault of some else.....


Is the new administration going to usurp that Bush idea as well?


Glad we are back to the era of personal accountability......


Clinton isn't the President... and he didn't make the promises........






As your President, I will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full
equality in their family and adoption laws. I personally believe that civil unions represent the best
way to secure that equal treatment. But I also believe that the federal government should not
stand in the way of states that want to decide on their own how best to pursue equality for gay and
lesbian couples — whether that means a domestic partnership, a civil union, or a civil marriage.
Unlike Senator Clinton, I support the complete repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA)
– a position I have held since before arriving in the U.S. Senate. While some say we should repeal
only part of the law, I believe we should get rid of that statute altogether. Federal law should not
discriminate in any way against gay and lesbian couples, which is precisely what DOMA does. I
have also called for us to repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, and I have worked to improve the Uniting
American Families Act so we can afford same-sex couples the same rights and obligations as
married couples in our immigration system.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/alexokrent/gGggJS

[xchrom]

6. worth repeating

'Unlike Senator Clinton, I support the complete repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA)
– a position I have held since before arriving in the U.S. Senate. While some say we should repeal
only part of the law, I believe we should get rid of that statute altogether.'

[Morning Dew]

23. As blame taker in chief, this is Clinton's 5th term - woo hoo. Unprecedented.

[katandmoon]

5. Does what Clinton did then excuse what Obama is NOT doing now?

[RufusH]

8. Blaming Clinton for everything is so yesterday. 1993 was a long time ago.

Clinton did some stupid shit, you're right. Now it's time for Obama to start to fix it, as he promised, since WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS.

[joeybee12]

11. Yeah, dig back a couple decades to make your point...

...times have changed, but the homophobe Obama hasn't.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. you are aware that 93 was 16 years ago, right?

[donheld]

7. Oh shut up

[RufusH]

9. Well, that's rude.

[LostinVA]

28. Why?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. random snark at obama without substance doesnt really do anyone any good

it makes you seem petty as though you are not over the hillary clinton loss

it doesnt help advance or garner support

[ThomCat]

12. Please don't participate in this shit

constantly bringing up the primary as if that is still an issue.

That is an imaginary issue, only in the minds of the people who keep bringing it up.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. yes, but what substance does this thread have besides bickering

obama should NOT have dismissed the concerns of the glbt community. that being said, this thread provides nothing of substance.

if it seems like someone is just criticizing obama for the sake of it, i will call them out, becomes on a larger it doesnt help our concerns. whether on du or off du.

[ThomCat]

14. We've all posted threads with as much or little substance.

Including you.

Pointing out that Obama is breaking promises, and doesn't even know which one(s) he's breaking is a relevant topic for a post.

Obama has done a lot that is worthy of criticism. He's earned it. And I'm assuming he can take it. He doesn't need you to protect him.

Attempting to shut people up because you don't think their posts are serious enough to meet your standards doesn't help our concerns either.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. oddly i feel like you are attempting to shut me up because my criticism

about posting constant attacks with little substance, doesnt meet your standard

i dont have to agree with every little attack on anyone.

[jonnyblitz]

19. it saddens me that you think that the president being so flip

about our issues ("I can't even remember which promise i broke")doesn't meet YOUR standard of "substance".

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. if your going to attack me jonny dont be dishonest about what i said

i have repeated several times that obama was wrong about being flippant on the issue. however, my objection is to the statement..he has broken so many promises, he doesnt even know which one.

i think being ridiculously hyperbolic in your criticism draws attention away to what was wrong in the first place, which is, obama should not have dismissed our concerns in a flippant manner.

[jonnyblitz]

24. "ridiculously hyperbolic" is subjective. I apologize if my being

enraged ruins our "cause" or whatever. I think you, like many, think DU is something more than it is and it's nothing but a discussion board where people vent. what in FUCK difference does it make the degree of hyperbole? do you think we make or break the movement by what we say here at DU? give me a break. :rofl:

I am DONE with this conversation with you, your posts are contradictory and have my head spinning.so you have a nice day.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. my posts are not contradictory. just because you want to jump down everyones throat

because of what you perceive is a protection of obama, doesnt make the problem with me.

i criticized obama heavily for his dismissive comments but i found this particular thread to be empty criticism

[jonnyblitz]

26. well i found it NOT to be empty criticism and the venom you

unleased on the OP i found a bit "intense" considering this is only a discussion board and a forum that very few read. claiming this thread hurts or inhibits the cause is RIDICULOUS. Criticizing obama for his dismissive comments is what this thread does so it is NOT empty which makes your posts contradictory in my eyes. it's ok for you to criticize but the OP's criticism of the same comment is "empty" and "ridiculously hyperbolic".

[La Lioness Priyanka]

27. if you read the OP, it doesnt actually criticize obama for his dismissiveness

but instead for multiple promises he has already failed on, something i think is ridiculous

"it's ok for you to criticize but the OP's criticism of the same comment is "empty" and "ridiculously hyperbolic"." this sentence makes no sense to me.

[jonnyblitz]

17. EXACTLY!! thank you, THOMCAT! i almost ripped into her earlier

for her idiotic post but decided not to. Appparently one can't criticize Obama if they have a screenname or avatar referencing the CLintons. the OP was right the fuck on, Obama can't even remember which promises he has broken and that is the substance of the post Pri claims is lacking!! :thumbsup:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

18. whatever dude. you have the right to attack whomever you want to.

i am certainly not taking a right away from you. however, just attacking someone to do it, is pointless and in my opinion silly. i think attacks on any politicians that seem to lack substance, distract from what the politician actually did. which is, to completely dismiss an issue.

[jonnyblitz]

20. whatever, pri. Obama being so flip about our issues is noteworthy.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. yeah it is and at no point have i said it shouldnt be noteworthy

[Clintonista2]

29. There's really nothing random about it

Please don't give me that "you're not over the Hillary loss" crap. I was very supportive of Obama in the general, and for the first few months after the election. It was his non-action on DADT (among other things)that has me bitter.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

30. i dont think you are obsessed about clinton but posts like these give such an impression

like you are not even willing to acknowledge that he has done some good, and he has time left. it also detracts from his dismissal.

i KNOW you are well over the primary.