Anyone know of a link or links to quotes where the Fundies advocate

[BR_Parkway]

death or stoning of gay people? Someone tried to ridicule me for not being afraid of terrorist, I told them there were plenty of wingnut fundamentalists here in my own country who hijacked various religions and called for my death, and that was accepted by so many 'regular' Americans, that I didn't need to worry about the religious wackos outside my borders.

Talk about the room going silent....

[Midlodemocrat]

1. I googled

"stoning of gays" and I am sorry to say I got 693 responses.

Link here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2004-19%2CGGLD%3Aen&q=%22stoning+of+gays%22

:(

[MnFats]

2. have you checked Fred Phelps' godhatesfags.com?"

also, google 'dominionist christians'
and i'll bet with a couple of clicks you'll find all you need.
they want to return to a radical old testament style of governance....including such things as being allowed to take an unruly child to the village gates and stone him to death, or for the head of the family to sell a daughter into slavery.
I'm not making this up.

[MindPilot]

3. put on some hazmat gear, and head over to

www.godhatesfags.com

[arcane1]

4. Leviticus 20:13 is a good start

Romans 1:31-32 perhaps?

get your friend to denounce the word of god :evilgrin:

[Ian David]

5. This will keep you busy for a while

First, see:

BRIEF QUOTES ON HOMOSEXUALITY:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/homquote.htm

And then be amazed...

Holy War
The religious crusade against gays has been building for 30 years. Now the movement is reaching truly biblical proportions
By Bob Moser
Southern Poverty Law Center
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=522

[mim]

6. At the risk of getting flamed

Fred Phelps is to the Left in 2006 what the Welfare Queen was to the Right in 1980. Yes, I know there really is such a person, but he's such a convenient straw man that he's hyped past all reason. There's hardly anyone in his church but his own family. Moderate evangelicals have nothing but scorn for him, and even the religious right, tho full of vitriol against the "godless" left, prefers to stress God's love for sinners wrt homosexuality.

As for advocating the death penalty (not necessarily by stoning), you'd probably find that among the Christian Reconstructionists, who are a small group quite different from mainstream fundamentalists. While they seem to have fueled the theocratic impulse on the religious right, they have not convinced many, even on the religious right, to accept their full blueprint for an OT-based temporal order. Those with only a slight knowledge of evangelicalism or fundamentalism are apt to confuse CRs with mainstream fundamentalists, but for one thing, CRs are postmillennialists and believers in Darbyite eschatology (e.g. Left Behind, The Late Great Planet Earth) are premillennialists.

[foreigncorrespondent]

7. Trust me...

...if anyone knows the difference between real Christians and CR's, it's gay people. It's our business to know the difference: One will pray for us, while the other will kill us.

Question: to me it sounds like you are trying to deflect our criticism of Phelps so I have to ask you why you would do that?

[Ian David]

10. There are some who think that Phelps is a hoaxer

That his intent isn't actually anti-gay, but to create sympathy for persecuted gays.

I highly doubt that.

But if it were true, I'd say that his "hoax" carries a great negative price as well. Two churches he protested against have had arson attacks after his visit. And there are those who find solidarity in his message.

[mim]

12. I can answer that

Because if Phelps were typical, there would be a lot more Phelpses in the nation's pulpits, and one would not have to resort to citing Phelps all the time.

[MountainLaurel]

13. They're there, they're just more subtle and get less attention

In the 1980s, I grew up attending a pretty white-sided church with a steeple that is one of the oldest churches in our state, where everyone got dressed for church on Sunday, vacation bible school was held every summer with everyone singing "Jesus loves the little children," the pastor was a handsome young man with a pretty wife and two adorable children, etc. Yet, during that time I was taught:

* AIDS was a gift from God to rid the world of the homosexual scourge.
* Interracial marriage was a sin. (That whole unevenly yoked together verse.)
* Mental illness really didn't exist, and psychiatry was just another secular tool aimed to cater to humanity's selfish nature.
* The only reason women should go to college was to further God's work by doing something like becoming a music teacher or to find a Christian husband. (Good Christian girls didn't go to secular schools.)

The only difference between those folks and Fred Phelps were their smiling faces.

[Ian David]

9. The majority of "Christians" voted against marriage equality

The leaders of the largest Evangelical churches in America have pledged to destroy the world.

While only a small minority may personally advocate the most extreme measures, there is little doubt that the most vocal of their leaders-- Falwell, Roberts, etc.-- would.

The only thing keeping many quiet is fear of backlash.

They may not say it, but they want it.

PS: This isn't a flame. You made some good points.

[Ian David]

11. In case it comes up later, Jewish Reconstructionism is much different

I call it, "Jewnatarianism," short for "Jewish Uniarianism."

Reconstructionist Judaism is...
A progressive, contemporary approach to Jewish life that integrates a deep respect for traditional Judaism with the insights and ideas of contemporary social, intellectual and spiritual life.

Judaism as the Culture of the Jewish People
For Reconstructionists, Judaism is more than Jewish religion; Judaism is the entire cultural legacy of the Jewish people. Religion is central; Jewish spiritual insights and religious teachings give meaning and purpose to our lives. Yet our creativity as expressed through art, music and drama, languages and literature, and our relationship with the land of Israel itself are also integral parts of Jewish culture. Each of these aspects provides a gateway into the Jewish experience that can enrich and inspire us.

<snip>

Reconstructionist communities are characterized by their respect for such core values as democratic process, pluralism and accessibility. In this way, they create participatory, inclusive, egalitarian communities committed to exploring Jewish life with dedication, warmth and enthusiasm.

<snip>

Reconstructionist Jews thus understand Judaism to be the outcome of the religious experience of the Jewish people in their search for meaning and sacred living throughout history rather than revelation from a supernatural God. Put differently, Reconstructionists see Jewish tradition, culture and religion as having grown "from the ground up" instead of from the "{mountain-}top down."

More:
http://www.jrc-evanston.org/about/reconstructionism.html

[foreigncorrespondent]

8. Start here...

http://www.hatecrime.org/subpages/hatespeech/hate.html

Then try googling "Rushdoony" and "stone" or "stoning." You should get more than you ever dreamed of doing that.