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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:01 AM Original message |
Does this guy have ANY non-homophobic Religious Supporters??? |
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IowaGirl (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think you are right on, Tyler. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
2. Most religion tends to be sex phobic in general |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. If I hung around with people who wore sheets, what would you think of me? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I knew people who wore sheets when I lived in NC |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Did YOU hang out with them? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. Did you call them your 'spiritual advisors'? |
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DU9598 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. Pretty serious charge |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. If you claimed your friend as a spiritual guide... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I have cut off the bigots and RW fundies in my own FAMILY. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
4. Has it occurred to any of you that this 'problem' is the result of nearly 2 decades of |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Which is an excellent argument for starting a 3rd party...or even a 4th party. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. No - we just have to be more focused on WHO LEADS THE PARTY to do BETTER for all of us |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. All of us except SOME of us. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. One of the many reasons I appreciated Kerry's mindset so much - he said our nation |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I started to worry when |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. When the some of the first words out of his mouth were about "FAITH"... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Well it got to this point in our political reality BECAUSE of the ASSHOLE WING of our party |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. So what's Obama going to do to fix it then? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I don't know how far he will go. But I trust those around him at this point far |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Glad you trust him. I don't trust any of these people. None of them have done enough. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. The first step on ANY ISSUE is open government. And that includes gay rights. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
77. whoops! |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
89. Gavin Newsome is not gay, so why did |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #89 |
96. I will bet that you and I have never heard the exact story and what the real deal is about Newsom, |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #96 |
135. It's not about BILL |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. Well since I don't think Obama walks on water or even speaks in a compelling way |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #96 |
144. What an odd line of reasoning |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #144 |
157. Bill is fried because he LED that Dem MARCH RIGHTWARD to MEET the bigots halfway. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
143. If ....then |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #143 |
148. Not about 15 years AGO, but the LAST 15 years of party leadership - and it just so |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:29 AM Original message |
But what about the here and now |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
156. Obama hasn't held the position. He deserves a chance. Being for open government and |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. So you are saying that Bill forced Obama to host McClurkin? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #159 |
160. How dense you playing? Obama is NOW dealing with the EFFECT of 15 years of a GOP strategy |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #160 |
162. No need to get personal |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
80. Am I to conclude the people in those churches have no minds of their own? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. No - but constant propaganda works - and there definitely WAS a deliberate political action |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. The tree is in the acorn. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #87 |
95. GOP (and Nazis) would disagree with you - bigotry can be strengthened OR weakened depending on |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. I don't think there's any amount of GOP outreach that could make me bigoted if I didn't |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. The Fellowship is a MISSION that HRC commited herself to for 15 years. Instead of COUNTERING |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Why are you whining to me about HRC? And why do you think adults even need |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Zero. But this isn't about me or you. You think EVERYONE is strongminded in their own right? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. I think everyone is responsible for their own choices, including the choice to be a bigot. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Sorry, but I DO believe people of lesser intelligence CAN be influenced by constant |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. You appear to be saying those churchgoers are of lesser intelligence. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Why? Is it insulting to acknowledge that not everyone in your highschool class was an A student? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Are you saying adults are not competent to make their own choices? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. No - I'm saying that constant propaganda CAN work on those not aware of the source |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Let's make this simple: Do you believe those who sit in - as you say - black churches |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Do YOU think people of average intellect are NOT susceptible to constant propaganda |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I think people of average intellect are personally accountable for their own bigotry. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #114 |
116. I can recognize propaganda easily now where I didn't in the past. Read National Security Archives |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. So you're immune to propaganda but the rest of us are poor saps being led by the nose? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Only if the shoe fits. If it doesn't, then it doesn't. If it does, then it does. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Well, we'll all have to bow to your superiority of intellect and self possession. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. No - just care enough about your country and the truth to demand open government. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. But since, according to you, my thoughts aren't really my thoughts but the |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Read the reports available to any citizen. Bow to yourself for acting as a CITIZEN with a duty. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Please explain how I can use my own judgment in reading such, since you say |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. Whatever - see what you want to see. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #131 |
134. Please answer the question. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. You never answer any of my questions... and you misrepresent what I said. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. I'll gladly answer any question you wish to ask me. Go right ahead. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. I did answer...and I have at least half a dozen questions in my earlier posts that |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Again, I'm happy to answer your questions. Let's review: |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #119 |
146. McClurkin worked for Bush |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #146 |
150. BILL Clinton led the party and DIDN'T counter the GOP tactic, instead meeting the GOP halfway |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. What you're not giving is any way that Obama WOULD change the dialogue |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #150 |
154. You are talking about Bill Clinton |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #150 |
155. The deflection award for the day, man. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #155 |
158. Obama isn't endorsing McClurkin. McClurkin is a minor peripheral RESULT of 15 yrs of Dems |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #158 |
161. So Obama HAD to |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #97 |
105. BTW - Do you think Dem PARTY should NOT have developed a counter strategy for the GOPs |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. You'll need to be more specific. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #109 |
115. GOP developed a strategy to target black churches with antigay propaganda and |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. They were pretty well anti gay before any such scheme. They were |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
5. His own church, the UCC backs marriage equality |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. What's worse? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Yet you support Clintons who LED the surge rightward and did NOTHING to influence |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Why is it so hard for Obamazombies to understand |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. A zombie - Why is THAT your default reply when someone speaks to the REALITY |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. When you're up against questions you can't or would rather |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. No - I clearly said the current REALITY of the discourse is BECAUSE Clinton rolled right |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Then why has John Lewis, to meniton just one, |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. If John Lewis was running a national campaign are you certain NO homophobic ministers |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I am not saying it is unimportant |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. We'll see what he does. The last Dem president sure talked a good game and then rolled over |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. If you would spend more time spelling out for us what |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. We LEARN from the past with the intention of not REPEATING it. |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I've got the past already. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. It is. And better that next pres is surrounded by progressive advocates of open government than |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. And what do we do if Obama follows his much-touted Faith |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Looks to me like he has committed to OPEN GOVERNMENT and that is the biggest hurdle on any issue. |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Yet the best we can do it talk in vague generalities about |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I trust the open government advocates on ALL issues. |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Good feelings, warm fuzzies, and promises of open government, |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
86. So you're saying you have sort of a history of midjudging candidates and being disappointed |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #86 |
107. Did YOU KNOW Clinton's long history with Bush and Stephens when YOU voted for him? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #107 |
110. I have zero regret about my votes for Clinton. He was the best option available, |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #110 |
120. You didn't know he was going to coverup for and protect BushInc did you? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Again, I have zero regret. Harkin and Tsongas were not the candidate. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Why? Bush1 would have been impeached - he EXPECTED to be impeached after the release |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Again: Clinton was the nominee, and the best vote of any in the GE. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. In hindsight, NO, IT WASN'T the best vote for this country. No Bush2, no 9-11, no Iraq or Iran war |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Who should I have vote for instead? Bush? Dole? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Not the point. The point was why repeat knowing what occurred? The only time we |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. It's certainly the point in reality. You moan about voting for Clinton - I don't. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #133 |
138. I don't moan about it - I just know the REALITY of our world would be wholly different |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #129 |
145. It sounds like you're suggesting |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. as usual you miss the person's point |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I understood it. But we got to this point SOMEHOW and Obama and Dems are STUCK |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. actually I think SCOTUS is our best route |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. And if Lewis was running a NATIONAL CAMPAIGN not one gay bigot would show up |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. When the "too" gay-friendly supporters are around |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. and how did it GET to that point in our POLITICAL REALITY? Who let the GOP target |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Probably happened because Clinton attempted a pro-gay move |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #60 |
83. BECAUSE the 'greatest political force in the Dem party' got smacked down and stayed rolled over |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #83 |
151. Hey you are the one that claims to know history |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
149. Forget the 90's for a moment |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. Like Gavin Newsom. |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
74. His Church Seems Pretty Much Polar Opposite of My UCC Church |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
147. In fairness |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
13. Curioser and curioser. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Works for me Comrade. |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
21. Meeks IS viruently homophobic |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. It is already posted there |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Naturally, of course, it's heteros who are saying those things. |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Terry, I'm concentrating on Colorado right now |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I'm not sure, Dinkledog. |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Great |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
49. Looks like another case of finding exactly what you are looking for |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Selective outrage? |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Selective outrage. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Oh, did you not understand my question? |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. If you have something to say, just say it. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Fine, let me try again. What do you mean by selective outrage? |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I mean you're selecting the events and evidence to react to |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. I can't get past your choice of words like "strident" and "specious" |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
59. The most obvious answer to your question is his closest spiritual adivsor: Jeremiah Wright. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Deleted message |
ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. LOL!! |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. You must have had the same kool-aid enema that I did. We basically agree |
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foxeyes2 (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. How about me? |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Now that's an argument I find reasonable and accessible |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
71. ... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
72. Obama made a choice - anti-gays have more $$ than gays. So he went for the anti-gay voters. |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
73. Just wondering if you'll continue to post in this forum if Hillary becomes the nominee? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Tyler is a friend of mine and I'm pretty damn positive he will |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. I hope so. |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Tyler has been supporting us for a long time |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Um, |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 06:52 AM Response to Reply #73 |
91. I understand anyone's suspicions. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
76. hold the phone. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 06:55 AM Response to Reply #76 |
92. I seem to remember talking about Obama on this thread, not Wright. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #92 |
142. Uhm no. |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
85. Tyler, another good find. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #85 |
94. I took the "Week Off Boycott." |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Good for you. |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
88. The trend is obvious: Obama dislikes gay people |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. I hope that Obama...... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Hope in one hand.... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
153. all i needed was donnie and gospellettes -- people forget that there |
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