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canis_lupus Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:36 AM
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Obama Attends NYC Gay Fundraiser
OK, so I admit that I'm among the first to criticize Obama when I don't feel he's committed to LGBT issues so it's only fair I post this to offer him some praise when he does something "gay-friendly."

From the New York Blade:

Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign kicked off a national LGBT fundraising division with a private event last week in New York City. The presidential hopeful spoke to a crowd of about 125 people at the home of Kevin Jennings and Jeff Davis.

Admission cost $2,300 per person, and the event raised $170,000, according to The Advocate.

Similar private events for LGBT supporters are scheduled across the country, and the campaign plans to integrate a gay contingent in its larger fundraising operations. In charge of corralling potential LGBT donors are Jeremy Bernard and Rufus Gifford, openly gay power brokers (and real-life partners) based in Los Angeles.

Though last week’s assembled crowd was mostly gay, half of the questions they brought up to Obama involved general issues of public concern. The other half, not surprisingly, involved gay topics. Tobias Barrington Wolff, Obama’s chief law and policy advisor on LGBT issues, has observed that 50/50 split among gay supporters throughout the campaign.

http://www.nyblade.com/2008/3-28/news/localnews/1214Obama.cfm
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:40 AM
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1. won't interview -- but he'll attend a fund raiser. nt
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:40 AM
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2. I don't know a single gay person that is for Obama.
They are all Hillary supporters.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:44 AM
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3. I know a few
but they are all African American males as well as gay. The African American lesbians I know are all for Hillary.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:51 AM
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4. My daughter and her partner
both voted for Obama. They are also New Yorkers. Maybe that is why?
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:39 AM
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13. Maybe my being from Illinois taints my opinion of Obama
Granted, I much prefer Edwards to either Barack or Hillary.
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:55 PM
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17. ooo-ooo me *waves franticly*
HockeyMom, being from upstate NY, I can say that definitely gives me reason to dislike Hillary...
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:15 PM
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25. I hear ya
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 04:16 PM by HockeyMom
Although I am from LI, we did a lot of traveling upstate for daughter's hockey, so I know what you mean.

NY was just her stepping stone. Too bad it took me 2 votes to figure that one out.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:51 PM
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26. you'd have prefered Little Ricky Lazio?
just saying ... being for Obama shouldn't be a license to trash
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:07 AM
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27. I couldn't vote in 2000 and in 2006 cast for Howie Hawkins
had I been able to vote in 2000 I probably would have voted Green as well

recognizing that Hilary hasn't ever been interested in serving NY doesn't make you a lazio lover.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:17 PM
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30. but voting Green makes you
a fully owned subsidiary of the GOP
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:48 PM
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51. you forgot your sarcasim smiley
...I hope...
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:09 AM
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8. I am
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:11 AM by sheeptramp
I'm a rural white lesbian who happily caucased for Obama, and hopes to vote for him in the general election.
I know at least two other lesbian farmers who also caucased for Obama in another county.

My good friend and his partner (gay farmer guys)wear Obama pins and sport Obama stickers on their shiney new Saab.

Idaho loves Obama.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:14 AM
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10. Meet me.
I'm a big ol' homo, and I'm 100% for Obama.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:26 PM
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19. And I'm the Queen of England
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Sandaasu Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:49 PM
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16. I'm gay, white, and favor Obama.
Neither really stands out much from the other as far as policy goes, including GLBT rights. Obama seems more trustworthy to me though.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:49 PM
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33. I'm bi and white and favor Obama, FWIW (as far as orientation goes) ... nt
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:44 PM
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21. Me and my hubby are Obama supporters.
And I'm pretty sure after 17 years together, we can say we are gay.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:53 AM
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36. Are you sure you're not just passing through a phase?
:P
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:55 AM
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37. I don't know a single person that's for McCain either,
but that just means that I don't hang around people who vote that way. Doesn't mean nobody's gonna vote for him. (unfortunately.)
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:30 AM
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39. I'm a gay person for Obama. So is my partner
And I'm white and I'm male. There is a lot of strong support for Obama in the gay community. There are lots of queers for Obama who post right here on DU. What is it with this "all queers vote for Hillary" myth that so many of you are trying to promote?
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:00 AM
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5. He's just friendly to our bank accounts.
Not to us. There's a difference.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:03 AM
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6. Obama DID a MAJOR interview -- in the Advocate -- including McClurkin; the bashers are never moved
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:46 AM
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15. Wasn't major, very brief, ONLY talked about Donnie...
...he's not at all comfortable with gays and lesbians...granted, he'll be better than McCain, but even lots of us homos are apparently willing to transfer our beliefs onto him and THINK he agrees with us.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:33 PM
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23. You got it Joeybee12
He is a blank slate. transfer all your hopes and dreams on him.
Hey have you been gone for awhile?.
Hell I'd go to a party of strait people for 2300 a head.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:36 PM
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24. Hell, I'll go for 1300 a head!
The way I read the article, he gave a speech, really didn't take questions...reinforces my belief he's not well-versed, but he wants the money and the votes. I wonder if he'll think he owes us anything if he gets in. Maybe then our own hopes and dreams will smack us back in our faces and wake us up.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:54 PM
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35. Perhaps some with long memories will remember Clinton in 93, and Larry Kramer nicknaming him ...
"Bill the Welsher" as far as his overall position on gay rights. Then he turned around and pushed heavily issues that were NOT at the top of the gay agenda, using gays as a national pinata before Congress, but all that is irrelevant

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but of course it's all historically well-informed and unbiased evaluation of Obama v the Clinton dynasty on gay rights

Right?

{here comes the 'how much do YOU know one-upmanship}
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:51 PM
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34. Obama is NOT a "blank slate" -- he has a progressive platform on gay rights
The supposed blotches on his progressive platform and record on the issue are simply blown WAY OUT OF PROPORTION by agenda-driven Obama-bashing partisans on DU who OF COURSE are "nothing of the sort"
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:27 PM
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20. He did it to cover his ass over the McClurkin debacle
I seriously doubt he would have given them the time of day, if not to cover his ass. He still hasn't apologized for that, btw.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:47 PM
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32. Catch 22 -- "obama won't interview" & then "he just interviewed to cover his ass"
obviously, when you have an agenda to bash someone, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

I don't know the full itinerary regarding Obama and gays, including interviews, but that was one example, EXTENSIVELY quoted on DU, that I am aware of and do remember
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:07 AM
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7. How can the GLBT community trust this man?
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:13 AM
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9. How can
the gay community trust Clinton? She lays claim to all her husband's achievements as her "experience." Well, when did he do anything but betray us at every turn? Like Bill, she lies without the slightest compunction. She'll say anything to win, and then do whatever suits her interests once in office. A gay person would have to be crazy to support her.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:16 AM
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11. A gay person would be crazy to support either...
Sadly it's a matter of holding the nose and voting for the lesser evil.

Which is what most of our elections have been, at least in my lifetime.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:28 AM
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:57 PM
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18. sorry, but this post made me giggle a bit (n/t)
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:44 AM
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14. Obama espouses "incrementalism" and "separate but equal"
It's not like he's got a spouse softening the message--Hillary was the softener during Bill's campaign and the initial attempt to fully integrate the military led directly to the social conservative Democratic backlash that hampered his first term and likely led to the Republican Revolution in 1994. Bill tried. He attempted to live up to the promises Hillary made. What're Barack and Michelle offering? Christ I miss Edwards.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:57 PM
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22. Why do you mistake concen about 0bama with support for Clinton? Get over your Bush-like
binary view of the world, please.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:58 AM
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38. In the case of the democratic nominees, right now we only have two choices.
Which makes for a binary view, unless you're willing to vote for someone who is no longer running or a third party candidate.

I think that poster was just pointing out that neither candidate has that great a record when it comes to GLBT issues. Better than most republicans, of course... but that ain't sayin' much.
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Sarah E Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:17 AM
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28. Some thoughts on Obama and my rights
Obama does not pick and choose when to support the rights of gay people. Here is a good summary of his support. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58317
He has consistently and publically supported gay rights in interviews, in rallies and town hall meetings. http://bloggernista.com/2007/11/21/obama-gay-rights-not-special-rights/, and yes in the 2004 speech at the DNC in Boston when most everyone else was afraid to raise our issues.
He had ads out before Clinton in Ohio and Texas http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?coll=news_articles&sernum=2008/03/04/1&page=5

He has addressed GLBTQ events and fundraisers. http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid53048.asp


PGN set him up by its timing of their request for an interview and are now using this in a hateful manner. People are raising the McClurkin event again as a way to denounce Obama’s support for us.

Obama recognizes that it does not benefit our cause merely to shut out those who maybe (or are) bigoted. http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid50021.asp. (he addresses the McClurkin issue here)

Think back on your life and recall the former bigots you have known who have changed their minds through knowing you and having conversations with you. We need to have those often difficult conversations with bigots openly if we are going to move forward in our quest for equality.

Check out these posts that talk about his record and support:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/02/obama-stands-up.html

http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianactivism/p/BarackObama.htm

http://365gay.com/Newscon08/02/022808letter.htm
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:08 PM
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29. Anyone who hangs out with the likes of Meeks
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 12:22 PM by dropkickpa
Is an asshole homophobe, in my book. Plain and simple.

Meeks served on campaign committees for him, appeared in commercials for him. He KNOWINGLY gives homophobes platforms to spew their hate and bring them greater notoriety. Fuck that noise. Obama ain't your friend, he just wants your money and your vote, and he is counting on blind fanaticism to get people to ignore his substantial failings in this and other areas. He may say he's not homophobic, but I judge actions, not words. Fuck Obama and the religious homophobic horse he rode in on.

He hasn't changed his mind on shit, it's not like all of these associations and buddy system hate went on years or decades ago, they've happened in the last 12 months. Are Americans so fucking simple that they are unable to recall the past year, or think of it as "the past" in the same vein of yesteryear and yore?
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:28 PM
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31. I won't be checking Anrew Sullivan's blog for anything
He is a bonafide koolaid drinking hillary/Dem hating People's temple like creep. and a poster with three posts and no profile carries little weight. I know all about Obama-nation
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:42 AM
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40. donchya know andrew sullivan is the new hero around here.
DU has fallen head over heels for that asshole.

so now we've got a guy who advocates that gay folk bring discrimination on themselves and ought to learn how to behave and andrew sullivan as paragons and valiant proponents of our future.

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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:34 PM
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42. Andy Sullivan, King of Bareback Mountain. LOL
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 12:35 PM by Chovexani
Well I have seen koolaid nation quote crazier people to justify their twu wuv for Obama.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:31 PM
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43. right on all counts. nt
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:39 PM
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44. He is so fucking rude and pushy
typical of that crowd braying that Hillary is Bush in a pants suit. STFU you overbearing bigmouth. I can listen to a bit of that from a Dem, but that treacherous queen gives me hives.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:43 PM
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47. incestuous cannibal comes to mind when talking about andrew sullivan.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:47 PM
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49. I didn't know Michelle's middle name was Sarah
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:32 PM
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41. LOL
To be fair, that is the traditional Democratic position: treat us like lepers 90% of the time and then come begging for our money.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:41 PM
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45. Well, I sure couldn't afford the $2,300 per person.
Ah, well.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:17 PM
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46. I'm straight, beige, and I don't understand.
How does Obama showing up to collect money mean he's a great guy?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:45 PM
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48. that's the $2,300. question. nt
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rcsl1998 Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:40 PM
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50. Taking Our Donations Is 'Gay-Friendly' ???
That's Bush-style logic! (like you caving into me is 'bipartisanship!)
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