Obesity more dangerous than terrorism: experts

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SYDNEY (AFP) - World governments focus too much on fighting terrorism while obesity and other "lifestyle diseases" are killing millions more people, an international conference heard Monday.

Overcoming deadly factors such as poor diet, smoking and a lack of exercise should take top priority in the fight against a growing epidemic of preventable chronic disease, legal and health experts said.

Global terrorism was a real threat but posed far less risk than obesity, diabetes and smoking-related illnesses, prominent US professor of health law Lawrence Gostin said at the Oxford Health Alliance Summit here.

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Like terrorism, some passing health threats get major government attention and media coverage, while heart and lung disease, diabetes and cancer account for 60 percent of the world's deaths, the meeting was told.

AFP

[sam sarrha]

1. about 1/3 of obese people have a virus that causes it, th insurance co's keep the AMA from declaring

it a treatable disease. ups their profits

[cosmik debris]

2. Is that fact or speculation?

Would you be kind enough to share the source of that statistic "about 1/3 of obese people have a virus that causes it".

[sam sarrha]

3. here is the link>> also cancer is caused by virus, the genetic link to cancer may just be the

resistance or lack of resistance to a virus,.. cancer.. is just a symptom of infection.

it is a big money making industry, corporate donations/bribes inhibit research money

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSN2030232620070820

[cosmik debris]

4. I saw nothing about 1/3 of obese people having a virus

What I did see was a bunch of "weasel words"

Common virus may be to blame
could explain
if it is caused by this virus in humans
"The virus appears to change their commitment to a fat storing cell,"
virus could be responsible for obesity.
"There are multiple causes of obesity. They range from simple overeating to genes to metabolism and perhaps viruses and infections."

You may like Reuters as a news source, but it is hardly equivalent to a medical journal.

[sam sarrha]

5. it is in all the other articles.. this is new research, involving the mechinism... google it

[cosmik debris]

10. In other words, you've got nothing

And you want to send me on a wild goose chase to try and prove your statement about 1/3 of obese people.

Nope, won't happen. When you make a claim that looks really suspicious, you need to back it up if you want to keep your credibility.

[sam sarrha]

11. the article ..>>Link>, in 1968 i had a friend that was really skinny, she caught a flue like

condition and gained 125 pounds, very rapidly, at the time she was complaining about her doctors attitudes, she was convinced it had something to do with that illness..40 years ago. the same thing has happened to other people i know. i was expressing an interest, you were being a pathetic shit head

http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20070820/obesity-virus-more-bigger-fat-cells

you are not so much interested in the science as you are delighted about the opportunity to prove that head is just the other end of your asshole.

don't bother replying, i have turned that sewer line off.

[cosmik debris]

14. Now we are getting somewhere

Previous research showed that nearly 30% of obese people, but only 11% of lean people, have been infected with Ad-36. Monkeys experimentally infected with Ad-36 gain significant weight.

So I followed the link to previous research.Here is some of what I found.

"We don't know it causes obesity in humans for sure."

"This research is very novel, very creative -- but a lot of very creative ideas turn out to be wrong."

And finally I found the relevant passage that supports your 1/3 statistic:

Dhurandhar says newer, as-yet-unpublished findings are even more dramatic. When he and co-workers tested more than 500 obese and non-obese Americans, they found that about one in three obese people -- but only one in 20 non-obese people -- had evidence of the virus.

Of course unpublished findings are not peer reviewed findings and can't be verified or disputed.

[Warpy]

8. Yep, gotta watch those weasel words

Although the pattern of the spread of obesity in this country, starting in the deep south and spreading outward, is the classic pattern of the spread of an infectious agent. There were no weasel words in that article, although I find I forgot to bookmark it (or it's bookmarked on a spare hard drive cannibalized out of The Antichrist and waiting for this hard drive to peg out).

All research into a causative agent, even the main suspect adenovirus strain, is preliminary. All laymen's articles will be one weasel word after another since the state of the research is far from able to form conclusions.

[Warpy]

6. Smoking is more dangerous than obesity.

Inactivity is more dangerous than obesity.

Thin smokers with a sedentary lifestyle are at far higher risk for illness than obese, active nonsmokers.

There is no treatment for obesity. It is not a moral failure. It is a physical condition that most people can't control. Weight loss, once accomplished, is temporary in 90% of people who achieve it.

These are the facts. When there is a permanent treatment to take weight off and keep it off, I will be first in line when they do the clinical testing.

Until then, we are who we are and the rest of the world is just going to have to cope with that fact.

FYI, being struck by lightning is more of a risk than terrorism.

[Stapz]

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[varkam]

9. But terrorists are scarier.

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[sam sarrha]

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