Companies may not market as dietary supplements.......

[HysteryDiagnosis]

>>Companies may not market as dietary supplements any products that are intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.<<

Calcium Deficiency can cause DISEASE: Question, what can CURE THE DISEASES ASSOCIATED WITH CALCIUM DEFICIENCY?? Any takers?? Perhaps Valkar or that other one.....

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[havocmom]

1. Corporations buy politicians to vote in laws corporations want to make more $$

Outlawing ANY from of independence seems to be just around the corner. Glad I am old, the future looks grim for human beings, but great for corporations.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. Here is to their "law" and what they can do with it....

I strongly recommend reading this ENTIRE article, it is worth it.

http://www.gnhealth.com/articles/whichArticle.php?article=185

Table 9: Patients Treated with Vitamins and Minerals
Type of Disease Number of Patients Good to Excellent Resolution
Adult Chronic Asthma 5,000 67%
Very Young Chronic Asthma 1,000 93%
Older Child Chronic Asthma 4,000 85%
Rheumatoid Arthritis 100 60%
Osteo Arthritis 2,000 60%

[havocmom]

9. Friend with MS changed doctors. New one put her onto BIG doses of D

amazing difference.

I have RA and OA, along with a lot of allergies and asthma. Just upping my D intake has made ALL much easier to deal with. Am very blond and live very far north. Sunshine is not gonna give me what I need.

I do think my overall mood has improved too, without any other changes in life but upping that D. I am about to bump up intake again. Doing it in slow stages and noting what is going on with each increase.

Am SO happy growing season is here and I can build my own salads from the ground up ;) So much better than produce that has traveled thousands of miles. And, I get the types of greens I like.

Thanks for all your good posts. I bookmark most of your links and have purchased more than a couple of the books you suggest. Good stuff I am able to share with others via the local library.

[thecrow]

3. My ex husband HAD to take calcium

His parathyroid glands were destroyed by hyperthyriodism (it very nearly took his life, too)
He HAD to take mass quantities of calcium EVERY DAY and will FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.
(Since his body no longer stores calcium or regulates it)
I tried everything to get our medical insurance to cover the cost... he was going through a bottle of Os-Cal 500 every other day... and they said they couldn't help because calcium is a SUPPLEMENT, not a drug.
I said, "But if he doesn't take it he will die in about two weeks"
They simply said "sorry, we can't help you"

Oh, how we need universal health care.

[Mika]

4. Link?

Thanks. :hi:

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. Right here, and there are many many more, Google for

calcium deficiency disease, many will be commercial sites selling calcium, learn to sort the wheat from the chaff.

http://www.gnhealth.com/articles/whichArticle.php?article=185

[Orrex]

5. This is a no-brainer

If the product is intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease, then it's subject to FDA approval. Dietary supplements, from ground yak's toenails to distilled gorilla sweat, are not currently required to submit to FDA review.

Really, fans of dietary supplements, however effective or dubious they may be, should praise this rule, because it frees the supplement industry from regulation and allows it to proceed in its merry and unchecked way, no matter how hugely it profits.

[Warpy]

7. Stop being silly. This tapdance has gone on for many years.

Supplements and herbs all list the contents and the RDA. The health information is in books and handouts. It's how supplements continue to fly under the FDA's radar, something which might not be a good thing as some unscrupulous people over the years have been found peddling high priced rubbish in place of the expensive supplement listed on the label.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

8. God forbid we should heal a person rather than chemically cover

up their troubles.

What is flying under the radar is the damage that drugs do to people everyday.

All manner of disease may be directly linked to either the use of pharmaceutical drugs or specific nutrient deficiencies either occurring alone or as a direct result of pharmaceutical drugs.

Tufts Study Finds Antioxidant Vitamin C
May Reduce Risk of Cataracts By 77 Percent in Women

WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 /PRNewswire/ -- A Tufts University study has found that Vitamin C, antioxidant vitamin, may reduce the risk of cataracts in women by as much as 77 percent.

"These data, together with results from experimental studies and previous epidemiologic findings for cataract extraction, suggest that long-term consumption of high amounts of Vitamin C (in the present case primarily through dietary supplements) may substantially reduce the development of age-related lens opacities," said Paul F. Jacques, scientist and epidemiologist at the Jean Mayer USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University in Boston.

Cataracts, found in nearly half of adults aged 65 and older, are created in the eye when proteins clump together and cloud the lens of the eye. They can cause blurred vision and poor night vision. Doctors and researchers have suggested that cigarette smoke and exposure to sunlight may accelerate the formation of cataracts.

The Tufts study, "Long-Term Vitamin C Supplement Use and Prevalence of Early Age-Related Lens Opacities," evaluated 247 women, aged 56 to 71. It found that women who had taken Vitamin C for long periods of time showed fewer signs of cataracts.

"Use of Vitamin C supplements for 10 years or more was associated with a 77 percent lower prevalence of early lens opacities at any lens site and an 83 percent lower prevalence of moderate lens opacities at any lens site comparedwith women who did not use Vitamin C supplements," the study said.

The study further suggested that Vitamin C reduces the risk of cataracts because it acts as an antioxidant. Antioxidants are compounds that protect the body from the formation of oxygen free-radicals -- unstable oxygen molecules that can line the interior of blood vessels, thus restricting blood flow. The formation of free radicals can lead to an array of diseases. Vitamin C in particular may also protect the eye against damage from sunlight.

Vitamin C can be found in most fruits and vegetables, especially corn, blueberries, kale, spinach, oranges and beets, all of which have high concentration of antioxidants. However, many adults, including the elderly, do not get enough Vitamin C in their diet. Many doctors recommend daily supplements of 250-500 milligrams of Vitamin C for the best health benefits. Another antioxidant, Vitamin E, also has been the subject of recent health studies. Studies by research teams, published in scientific journals, have found that Vitamin E may help prevent heart disease, many forms of cancer, kidney disease, diabetes and osteoporosis, can fight Alzheimer's disease, and strengthens immune systems in the elderly.

The Tufts study on Vitamin C showed the best results for women who had taken supplements of 400-800 milligrams daily. The study also recommended more research for further determination of the short-term and long-term effects of Vitamin C on cataracts.

(Foods for the Future provides factual information to the media concerning food products, health and nutrition. It is a project of the T. Dean Reed Company and is supported by U.S. agribusiness.)

[Warpy]

10. Yeah, right, none of us who worked in healthcare

ever wanted to heal anybody. We went through hell and back just to enrich drug companies.

Good grief. Some people are unreachable.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. It has little to do with anyone who worked in healthcare, what it

has to do with is a system that ignores the role that dietary supplements play in wellness and disease. It is a system that ignores the very laws of nature in order to enrich itself. It is a broken system that disallows its adherents the necessary tools to do what they dream of doing. People who work in the healthcare system are to be admired. The system however needs an overhaul of its basic beliefs... one of which is that money comes before the patients well being.

[Warpy]

12. Baloney. Try reading some of the peer reivewed medical literature

about supplements. Some have been found unproductive and others have been found counterproductive and actually contributing to disease processes.

You are right about the focus on cost containment rather than the delivery of care. That has absolutely nothing to do with supplements, however, and the attempt to tie the two together is farfetched, to say the least.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

13. Simple question, if I meet a man who is suffering from neuropathy

of the feet and hands, and if I ask him if he has ever heard of Lipoic Acid and he says "Huh?" what am I supposed to think? He may not be able to afford it, he may not want to pay for it, but the ins. cos. will not pay for it. Not only has he not been told about it by his doc, he couldn't get it prescribed if he wanted. Same goes for Retinopathy. My uncle who had several operations for retinopathies finally went blind, fell, broke some ribs and DIED. Some supplements are counterproductive?? Lipoic acid and Pycnogenol are counterproductive?? I hardly think so, and in these two instances, millions of people could be helped. Sadly enough, they are not.

1: Diabetes Care. 1999 Aug;22(8):1296-301.Click here to read Links
Treatment of symptomatic diabetic polyneuropathy with the antioxidant alpha-lipoic acid: a 7-month multicenter randomized controlled trial (ALADIN III Study). ALADIN III Study Group. Alpha-Lipoic Acid in Diabetic Neuropathy.
Ziegler D, Hanefeld M, Ruhnau KJ, Hasche H, Lobisch M, Schütte K, Kerum G, Malessa R.

Diabetes-Forschungsinstitut an der Heinrich-Heine-Universität, Düsseldorf, Germany. [e-mail]

OBJECTIVE: To evaluate the efficacy and safety of alpha-lipoic acid given intravenously, followed by oral treatment in type 2 diabetic patients with symptomatic polyneuropathy.

RESEARCH DESIGN AND METHODS: In a multicenter randomized double-blind placebo-controlled trial (Alpha-Lipoic Acid in Diabetic Neuropathy III Study), 509 outpatients were randomly assigned to sequential treatment with 600 mg alpha-lipoic acid once daily intravenously for 3 weeks, followed by 600 mg alpha-lipoic acid three times a day orally for 6 months (A-A; n = 167); 600 mg alpha-lipoic acid once daily intravenously for 3 weeks, followed by placebo three times a day orally for 6 months (A-P; n = 174); and placebo once daily intravenously for 3 weeks, followed by placebo three times a day orally for 6 months (P-P; n = 168). Outcome measures included the

Total Symptom Score (TSS) for neuropathic symptoms (pain, burning, paresthesias, and numbness) in the feet, and the Neuropathy Impairment Score (NIS). Data analysis was based on the intention to treat. RESULTS: No significant differences between the groups were noted for the demographic variables and the nerve function parameters at baseline.

1: Phytother Res. 2001 May;15(3):219-23.Click here to read Links
Treatment of vascular retinopathies with Pycnogenol.
Spadea L, Balestrazzi E.

Dipartimento di Discipline Chirurgiche, Cattedra di Clinica Oculistica, Facoltà di Medicina e Chirurgia, Via Vetoio, Coppito 2, L'Aquila, Italy.

The aim of our study was to investigate the effects of Pycnogenol on the progression of diabetic retinopathy and other vascular retinal disorders. The study consisted of a double-blind phase in which 20 patients were recruited and randomly treated with placebo or Pycnogenol (50 mg x 3/day for 2 months) and an open phase in which another 20 patients were treated with Pycnogenol at the same dose schedule. In total, 40 patients with diabetes, atherosclerosis and other vascular diseases involving the retina were enrolled; 30 of them were treated with Pycnogenol and 10 with placebo. The results demonstrated a beneficial effect of Pycnogenol on the progression of retinopathy. Without any treatment (placebo) the retinopathy progressively worsened during the trial and the visual acuity significantly decreased; on the contrary, the Pycnogenol-treated patients showed no deterioration of retinal function and a significant recovery of visual acuity was also obtained. The fluorangiography showed an improvement of retinal vascularization and a reduced endothelial permeability and leakage in the Pycnogenol, but not in the placebo-treated, patients. The ophthalmoscopy and the electroretinogram (ERG) also confirmed the beneficial effects of Pycnogenol. The mechanism of action of Pycnogenol may be related to its free radical (FR) scavenging, anti-inflammatory and capillary protective activities. It has been suggested that Pycnogenol may bind to the blood vessel wall proteins and mucopolysaccharides and produce a capillary 'sealing' effect, leading to a reduced capillary permeability and oedema formation. Copyright 2001 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

PMID: 11351356 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE

[cosmik debris]

14. I don't understand your concern?

Are you afraid that calcium supplements will be taken off the market?

Are you afraid that calcium supplement marketers will not be allowed to make unsupported claims about the efficacy of their product?

Just what are you concerned about?

Please ex[lain.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

15. Concern? If the rock bottom truth would be told by the likes of

Dr. Sanjay who gets the airtime to COMPLETELY ignore the facts regarding disease vs nutrition then our healthcare system could be radically reduced in cost.... which converts to more people being healed and saved in a less toxic and oftentimes more effective manner.

What it means is that I might still have a father and an uncle to talk to.

[cosmik debris]

16. That doesn't make sense.

At least not in the context of my question.

So, I'll ask again.

Regarding your original post, You started with a statement about calcium dietary supplement marketing.

Do you have some concern about calcium dietary supplement marketing?

And by the way, who is Dr. Sanjay and why should he have to preach your sermon? Did he kill your father and uncle? You are not to clear on a few of those points.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

17. Dr. Sanjay is an AUTHORITY figure on CNN regarding medical

issues. To my knowledge he has never spoken about the merits of supplements vs disease. He simply cannot because that is the law.

My father and uncle were (imho) victims of a system that is geared to ignore the value of supplements vs disease.

The marketing of calcium supplement doesn't bother me, I wish they were prescribed to many many more people than those who now take them.

[cosmik debris]

18. I'm still confused.

Dr. Sanjay is someone you respect, an authority?

But there is some law that says TV doctors can't talk about calcium supplements?

So Dr. Sanjay's silence contributed to the death of your father and uncle?

I must be missing something? ?? ???

[TZ]

19. Once again you show your IGNORANCE of how things really work

The FDA does not allow things that have NOT been evaluated scientifically for certain applications without study to be proscribed as such without testing
Oh the evul FDA! It does not allow snake oil to be sold as medicine! But you know, things can still be proscribed by doctors sometimes if a medical/scientist specialist thinks it will help someone sometimes and has real evidence that it can work..How do I know that? I was just proscribed by a doctor a medicine that while FDA approved for other treatments can be used to treat a condition *I* have but has never technically been approved by the FDA. There is enough proof in scientific journals that it works, while a lot of this herbal stuff has NO foundation for stuff.
You are a very arrogant person that believes you understand scientific testing and design better than doctors, when YOU DO NOT.
You also have a double standard..You think that all pharmas are corrupt and all FDA approved medicine is bunk, while the REAL bunk and bullshit is the herbal supplements which you seem to think is a good thing..In other words, you believe that pharmaceuticals aren't regulated and should be, but you don't think regulation and testing and necessary for supplements.
This is why many doctors dislike altie med and herbal supplements..because there is no basis scientifically for their use and no regulation on them while the same people who scream bloody murder about Pharmas needing regs LOVE having unregulated untested unproven sugar pills. Such hypocrisy

[WildClarySage]

20. So I asked my father's oncologist if supplements

should be a part of his treatment for small-cell lung cancer. He stated that a daily multivitamin wouldn't hurt but that because the body doesn't absorb 'vitamins' well, and because supplements aren't regulated for formula, inactive ingredients or strength, taking them is unlikely to help and might in fact be harmful and counterproductive in combination with chemotherapy. He did recommend a healthy diet and the restriction of carbohydrates (as much as a chemo patient's upset tum can handle.

Extolling the virtues of supplements without knowing an individual's condition or the precise ingredients in the supplement is more than silly... it can be harmful.