YAY! Theocracy at work.

[Tux]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7201269/

Not a Christian, lose your job as Dell in Nashville (I worked there) said to Muslims who prayed. Christians there pray a lot yet nothing happened to them. Got to love Christians. They claim persecution yet persecute everyone not like them. Some book says so.

[katsy]

1. That's illegal!

Or... it was in the United States of America.

Am I dreaming?

[Tux]

2. Check MSNBC

They're doing specials on how companies now want champlains to "help" people with spiritual problems. Of course, the chaplains are only Evangelical Christians. They claim to respect the beliefs of others but they don't nor ever will. It's CHristianity or a burning stake.

[katsy]

3. Thanx Tux

[sui generis]

4. well actually

if the concern is that ritual muslim prayer five times a day interrupts shift work that can be a valid concern to the employer, even if it wasn't handled as well or as sensitively as it could have been.

Mind you I am all for making everyone pray at home if they feel compelled to do sit around and wish real hard, but then I am both an infidel and a heathen and possibly have a few genes from the antichrist for good measure.

:evilgrin:

[Tux]

8. However

Christians can use IM for Bible time? Or managers use Bible paragraphs for inspiration during employee meetings? Where is the line drawn for Christians?

[sui generis]

9. not in my company they can't!

that's one line -

I don't care what anyone does on their lunch or on a reasonable break with their time, including surfing, phoning, and IM'ing, so long as it's not disruptive. I do not allow "public" prayer at work because it makes non-proselytizing christians and non-christians uncomfortable, and also because it creates a clique, alternate power base and power struggle between the high priest(ess) and me, the king, and the king won't have that.

I guess what I'm saying is it takes courage to draw a line, but as a business owner you have to be responsible to all of your employees. I wouldn't hire only atheists just because I'm anti-religious personally - I use whoever is best for the job and try to keep work about work.

[tubbacheez]

5. I detest theocracy, yet I'm prepared to live in one for a while at least.

Faith is internal. If it isn't in your heart, it doesn't matter how much you flame about it in public. If it really IS in your heart, it still doesn't matter how much you flame about it in public.



I'm somewhat introverted, so maybe this is easier for me than for some other folks. But I know how to stay alive with fundies and even extremists in charge.

Yes, there's some injustice in having to hide one's religion, while others get to make utter idiots of themselves and their churches in the open.

I detest all injustice, but on a day-to-day basis, I throw my energies against the ones I can.

[sui generis]

6. theocracy bad for atheists

I would rather theocrats go live in a teeming huddled mass somewhere else.

At the very least it is terrifically unAmerican, and at best it is a benign form of tyranny when you "tolerate" minorities in whatever form.

I certainly don't want to merely be "staying alive" with my time. I would have to overthrow said theocracy.

[tubbacheez]

7. Full agreement here.

I'm a survivor by experience. I didn't ask to be one. Life just hit me with it over the years.

As a result, I know how to stay alive through difficult times, at the expense of not knowing some experiences others may've had.

And yes, thriving is much nicer than surviving.




Also, I fully admit it's difficult to shift one's mindset from surviving to thriving. That's something for me to learn in my life.





No doubt, we agree on where we should be headed. I'm just saying I'm ready to carry this fight onto whatever social terrain the fundies impose on us.

This is Democratic UNDERGROUND. Going underground isn't as nice as living free in the open, but I'll do what I have to do.