Anybody else get a weird feeling - an Ex-Nazi gets elected pope, and

[zbdent]

they celebrate by BURNING SOMETHING . . .?

It just occurred to me and freaked me out . . .

[acmavm]

1. Ex-nazi? Where's that coming from?

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[sui generis]

5. he was in the army during world war II

which doesn't make him a Nazi. In fact the Nazi's killed thousands of Roman Catholic priests, sending them mostly to Dachau. They conscripted everyone by offering food ration cards that could be used to feed your family, and you only got those cards if you worked for the army in one capacity or another.

However, these subtle nuances may be lost on some of the more hysterical loons flying through today.

[Wabbajack]

2. Wasn't

it mandatory to be in the hitler youth?

[Pawel K]

3. Ex-Nazi? Please get your facts straight

He lived in Germany and was forced in to HItler's youth. He later deserted the army. His father who was a police officer was extremely anti-nazi. So please, before you spread crap read up on it.

[zbdent]

6. Okay, here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1400407

[Pawel K]

8. OK what?

Sorry to get so upset but this is obsolute crap. If you call him a nazi you would have to call every person over 70 that lived in Germany a nazi. Read up on something before you post it.

[ixion]

4. (Ex?) Nazi turned Pope

Given the strong lean toward fascism and their history of mafiaesque behavior, this doesn't surprise me on bit.

[Pawel K]

7. This anti religious crap here gets me really pissed off

read up before you listen to this shit.

[Southsideirish]

9. He could have been a conscientous objector to the Hitler Youth. Others

were.

[ixion]

10. here ya go...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3504231


I'm not alone in my feelings on this one.

And yes, I DO have a problem with institutionalized religion. Last time I checked, I was entitled to my opinion.

[Pawel K]

11. Base your opinion on facts

again, by your idiotic logic every old German is a nazi. If you have a problem with religion you can have your opinion, but if you misstate facts to provide a better argument you are no better than those ass hats called republicans.

[ixion]

14. please show me where I 'misstate' facts...

my original post only indicated that it wouldn't suprise me a bit if the catholic mafia nominated an ex-nazi to be the pope, because they have a history of acting like a cult, or an organized crime group.

This is not a misstatement. It's a fact. By defintion, the catholic church is a cult that exhibits the classic traits of a fascist group. That is, they are highly centralized with a rigid set of beliefs and homogenous behavior and adhere's rigidly to a set of arcane beliefs designed only to perpetuate the organization and enrich it

That's my belief and I'm stickin' to it. ;-)

[Pawel K]

16. Dude, you fucking called him a nazi

this bigotry against religion is sickening.

You won't even admit you were wrong when you clearly were. I have absolutely no respect for anyone that will slander someone because they don't agree with him or her. Again, you should join the Republican party so you can be among your kind.

I normally don't lose it like this but you called him a nazi, I asked you to please get your facts straight and I did it in a nice tone and you continue to go on with your crap.

I disagre with many aspects of the Church as I disagree with many; however, I would never stoop to call someone a nazi when they clearly disagreed with it but were forced in to that system.

[ixion]

20. so, tell me.. .what do you make of this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1407120

[Tux]

18. "Base your opinion on facts"

Vatican basing anything on facts is silly. It would never happen. They prefer some guy's opinion to be God's will.

Before you tell others to get facts, get it yourself. He was in the Hitler Youth and may not be a Nazi but how did it influence him? How would the power of tyranny he seen effect his Pope deal? How can he claim to be God's Voice without any facts?

[Pawel K]

13. No he couldn't have

Nazi Germany didn't have as many freedoms as we had. EVERY CHILD IN HITLER'S GERMANY BELONGED TO THE STATE AND HAD TO BE IN HITLER'S YOUTH.

[Macadian]

12. Are you anti-Catholic?

or just anti-education?

Try to educate yourself before you slander a religious leader.

[zbdent]

15. Try anti-holocaust

and I guess that being a member of the communist party for one semester in college would make you a lifetime communist, right? By what appears to be some people's logic . . .

No, I am not anti-catholic. Unlike a bunch of people, I feel that most cases, you are FREE TO PRACTICE YOUR RELIGION - you are not free to cram it down my throat . . .

[Macadian]

17. And how is this pope doing that?

No, I am not anti-catholic. Unlike a bunch of people, I feel that most cases, you are FREE TO PRACTICE YOUR RELIGION - you are not free to cram it down my throat . . .

How is this pope cramming the Catholic religion down your throat?

[zbdent]

19. Boy, you're just itching for an argument, eh?

I never said the pope was cramming it down my throat. Where did you see that?

I get offended when people have to cram religion into other people's faces - if you watch, it's mostly in reaction to someone cramming their religion down someone's throat that the left has to get involved in reminding people that we do not have a theocracy.

Apparently, the right believe in only two words (inserted in the 50s) of the pledge - UNDER GOD.

[tucoramirez2005]

21. Definitely

why would you even have to ask?