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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:37 PM
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"Sharia Law" - The Stone Age Law Of Stones....
SOURCE: Perth Now

Two Women To Be Stoned For Adultery, Says Amnesty

From correspondents in Khartoum, Sudan

March 21, 2007 02:00am

TWO Sudanese women were sentenced to death by stoning for adultery after a trial in which they had no lawyer and which used Arabic, not their first language, the rights group Amnesty International said.

Sadia Idriss Fadul was sentenced on February 13 and Amouna Abdallah Daldoum on March 6 and their sentences could be carried out at any time, the London-based group said.

North Sudan implements Islamic sharia law.

The women had no lawyer during their trial and were not able to defend themselves, as their first languages are those of their ethnic groups, Amnesty said. Both women are from non-Arab tribes but the proceedings were in Arabic and no interpreter was provided, Amnesty said. Their trial took place in central AlGezira state.

One of the women, Sadia Idriss Fadul, has one of her children with her in prison, Amnesty said. Faysal el-Bagir, a Sudanese human rights activist, said sentences of death by stoning were rare, but we have heard that in this area there have been other such judgments.

The male accused in Ms. Fadul's case was let off because there was not enough evidence against him. Witnesses are usually required to gain a conviction and forensic tests are not normally used in such cases.

Under Sudan's penal code, anyone who is married and has sex outside wedlock shall be punished by execution by stoning. If they are unmarried, they are lashed, Amnesty said.

El-Bagir said that in another case in Sudan's western Darfur region about two years ago, a woman sentenced to death by stoning had her punishment reduced to lashing after a public campaign by rights activists.

Amnesty opposes all forms of capital punishment.

Sudan's justice ministry was unavailable for comment.

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,21420180-950,00.html


*** - "The male accused in Ms. Fadul's case was let off because there was not enough evidence against him.

Funny how that always seems to happen. There never seems to be ANY witnesses to be found against men in sharia adultery cases. Unless they're gay. And yet there is evidence a-plenty that these people are at minimum, barbarians.
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:43 PM
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1. This is what happens when religious conservatives have
complete power. Our religious conservatives yearn for a society like that.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:46 PM
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2. It is for reasons like those I hold the Sharia fundies are worse than Xtian fundies
its an unpopular view here, but not to realize that there are differences in the risks each represents is foolish.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 11:52 PM
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3. They're only worse than Xtian Fundies, for now....
...given the proper incentives and freedom to persecute, I'm sure Xtian Fundies could outdo those Sharia folks in a NY minute. And its not like there isn't a precedent for Sharia-type justice here. At least early on. In Salem.

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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 12:31 AM
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4. That was many years ago...anything in the last 30 years?
part of the problem is that the Sharia is still back in the dark ages and western law, jurisprudence, and culture have grown past that. Not to view them as different levels of risk is inane.
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one more state Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 04:20 AM
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7. Sharia law is coming
soon. Think about what the differences are between Muslims and Christians. Both believe God's law come before government. Both are against homosexuality, adultery, premarital sex, abortion and feminism. Christians are converting everyday. Male priest and imams, sounds like a good match to me, but I'm a man. Hope the ladies are sewing their burkas. Doesn't Minnesota have a muslim congressman?
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:33 PM
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5. This is so infuriating.
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 09:35 PM by niallmac
When I think of how we bend over backwards to afford the detainees at gitmo free and equal
access to air and the presumption of guilt I do not understand the narrow mindedness of Sharia Law.

When i think of the good intentions we all have in the name of democracy even though we all go'
to our daily chores knowing that we don't know shit about the people we detain without any
access to due process I wonder, "What kind of self rightous crazies are these Sharia fundies?

Most of all I wonder how we who allow our government to torture and imprison people
based on nothing but the re assurances of our our military that the 'detainees' are truly 'bad' people
...how in the hell do we sit around and look down upon any facist misogynist and or totalitarian group?
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 07:22 AM
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6. It's not comparable.

Nothing the US government is doing is in any way comparable to stoning people to death for adultery like this.

That's not to say it's not doing some very bad things indeed, of course. But they should be kept in perspective - most countries have even worse attitudes to human rights than the US does.
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one more state Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 04:32 AM
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8. Republicans get what they want.
If the U.S. becomes muslim the republicans get everything they want. Sharia law is the republican platform with big teeth. I surprised Bush doesn't just become muslim. He could justify all his goals just by saying it's Allah's will.
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