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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:51 AM
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100,000 Customers Tracked by Their ISPs
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 10:53 AM by Donkeykick
Astounding story from the Washington Post about ISPs monitoring customers web browsing and email; this is supposed to be more useful than cookies. :wtf:

Every Click You Make
Internet Providers Quietly Test Expanded Tracking of Web Use to Target Advertising


By Peter Whoriskey
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 4, 2008; D01



The online behavior of a small but growing number of computer users in the United States is monitored by their Internet service providers, who have access to every click and keystroke that comes down the line.

The companies harvest the stream of data for clues to a person's interests, making money from advertisers who use the information to target their online pitches.

The practice represents a significant expansion in the ability to track a household's Web use because it taps into Internet connections, and critics liken it to a phone company listening in on conversations. But the companies involved say customers' privacy is protected because no personally identifying details are released.

The extent of the practice is difficult to gauge because some service providers involved have declined to discuss their practices. Many Web surfers, moreover, probably have little idea they are being monitored.

But at least 100,000 U.S. customers are tracked this way, and service providers have been testing it with as many as 10 percent of U.S. customers, according to tech companies involved in the data collection.

Although common tracking systems, known as cookies, have counted a consumer's visits to a network of sites, the new monitoring, known as "deep-packet inspection," enables a far wider view -- every Web page visited, every e-mail sent and every search entered. Every bit of data is divided into packets -- like electronic envelopes -- that the system can access and analyze for content.

"You don't want the phone company tapping your phone calls, and in the same way you don't want your ISP tapping your Web traffic," said Ari Schwartz of the Center for Democracy and Technology, an advocacy group. "There's a fear here that a user's ISP is going to betray them and turn their information over to a third party."

In fact, newly proposed Federal Trade Commission guidelines for behavioral advertising have been outpaced by the technology and do not address the practice directly. Privacy advocates are preparing to present to Congress their concerns that the practice is done without consumer consent and that too little is known about whether such systems adequately protect personal information.

Meanwhile, many online publishers say the next big growth in advertising will emerge from efforts to offer ads based not on the content of a Web page, but on knowing who is looking at it. That, of course, means gathering more information about consumers.


Rest of the story at the Washington Post.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/03/AR2008040304052.html

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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:03 AM
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1. Shouldn't any sharing of revenues be with the consumer?
"Service providers who hand over consumer data can share in advertising revenues."
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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:07 AM
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2. Oh my goodness!
Can't have that. What would the stock holders say? :eyes:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:49 AM
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3. I can pretty much guarantee you they are monitoring 100% of
internet users, and that they are turning all their data over to the feds, and they are being well paid to do so.

Probable black ops.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:02 AM
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4. We pay them to spy on us.
That is not democracy or security. It's profiteering and fear mongering.

Like in Nazi Germany the pure weight of all that information keeps them from real security. They can get a warrant...anytime, for whatever reason but must justify it. They can't justify fear and political spying on us can they?

They didn't learn from the past. So one has to assume it's follow the money.
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wogget Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:33 AM
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5. Call me one of the tin foil hat patrol
but I'm squeamish about allowing Grocery stores to track my purchases as part of their "club memberships". They Universally have tied all in store promotions to "club membership" meaning essentially a 25% surcharge on not handing over your buying habits to their marketing departments and or "business partners". I know its a little off topic, but it's all part of the creep of corporate control. . .
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:26 AM
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6. I agree foil hat
Why not just lower the price of the food?
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:32 PM
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7. We need our electeds to want to protect us from unwanted spying.....
A simple law stating that tracking without express permission of the trackee (or a warrant) is illegal and that any revenue obtained by tracking must be shared with the individuals being tracked. This would cause such a bookkeeping nightmare that no one would want to do it... and remove the profit motive.
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:27 PM
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8. Knowledge is power
especially when it comes to personal data about people. Perhaps more importantly in our current economy, though, is that knowledge is money, at least to somebody. Whoever has that information can be paid handsomely to do so, and if there are no legal repercussions in doing 'x' with that data, it will probably be done. It is a sad commentary on modern ethics.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:36 PM
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9. Those cable companies pay their employees ZELCH
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 03:37 PM by OKthatsIT
If you want to go after them...ask the employees. I'm sure 'loyalty to the company' DIED long ago(40 years ago).

Then..go find a lawyer and sue their butts. You'd win because it is against the law.
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