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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 07:49 PM
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Catholic 'secret society' gains power foothold (Opus Dei)
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 07:51 PM by Trajan
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1379801,00.html

Catholic 'secret society' gains power foothold

Opus Dei plays down fears over link to Education Secretary

Jamie Doward
Sunday December 26, 2004
The Observer

A couple of years ago not many people in Britain had heard of Opus Dei. Its cloistered anonymity was such that even many committed Christians were unaware the ultra-conservative Roman Catholic movement existed.

And then came The Da Vinci Code. The frantic plot of Dan Brown's blockbuster novel centres on a ruthless Opus Dei member who commits murder to protect the secrets of the Holy Grail. The book served to reinforce enduring conspiracy theories that the movement is a shadowy, powerful elite with tentacles stretching up to the highest echelons of society.

And then came the cabinet minister, Ruth Kelly. The new Education Secretary has close links with the society, leading to a wave of headlines heavy with the whiff of conspiracy, a woman with 'secret links' she has so far refused to talk about.

In the first public comments from the organisation since Kelly's appointment earlier this month, Andrew Soane, Opus Dei's communications officer, says she is not a full member.

'She is "in touch". She has attended meetings,' Soane confirmed. Secular groups have reacted with alarm to the news, arguing that someone with such conservative Catholic views on the family, abortion and contraception should not be in charge of education policy.

Organisations such as the National Secular Society worry that Opus Dei members are taught that their work must encapsulate their faith at all times. Soane says such fears are overplayed, although he admits that members are encouraged not to separate their faith from their careers.

-snip-

And the circle keeps on turnin ...
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 07:54 PM
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1. DVC/HBHG = Protocols of the Elders of Rome
Donning my flame-proof vest now...
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 07:55 PM
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2. Wasn't the FBI mole Robert Hansen
a member of Opus Dei also?

Pretty freaky. :scared:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 08:01 PM
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 08:13 PM
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5. Antonin Scalia Is Terrifying To Me -- He Seems Insane
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 08:16 PM
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6. Is that all ? ...
Kinda like: humming pious hymns while gardening ? ....

Heck: That is sweet as pie .... things like darning an extra pair of socks for the needy sounds like JUST the thing to keep one's faith at work in one's life ....

Seems my mommie would LOVE to join the Opus Dei ....

Do they play Bingo ? ....
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 08:06 PM
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4. As was FBI director Louie Freedh (or whatever his name was)
and Justices Scalia and Thomas. All four of these guys were in the same chapter in D.C.
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:19 AM
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8. Yes
The very same one who had a close personal relationship with a stripper and put in a closed-circuit TV system because he wanted his best friend to watch him and his wife having sex?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375507450/qid=1105971486/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-0789752-3838519?v=glance&s=books
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 04:19 PM
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7. MUST see/listen, imo...Opus Dei is covered...
MUST see/listen, imo...

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mutus_frutex Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:17 PM
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9. The Opus Dei is becoming more powerful everyday
In south america, the old guard that fought the liberation theology during most of the right wing dictatorships has pretty much reappeared inside the Opus Dei.

There are lots of small group, loosely interconnected among themselves and with the OD that are fighting the liberalization of many laws and starting to fight many of the left governments elected lately.

In my home country the OD has been fighting the possible legalization of abortion with tooth and nail. We have a very, very strict separation of church and state. They are also attacking that, specially the fact that public schools are strictly secular.

Cheers..
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