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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:44 PM
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Junk science re: the big bang on the 'science channel'
Oh puke.
I managed to watch about 10 mins before having to turn it tonight. This series is called:
"Joao Magueijo's Big Bang. In this series, Joao Magueijo travels through time and space to explore the six holy grails of modern science."

What a pos. He's denying proven markers of the big bang!!
More ID on something called 'the science channel' -- Just unbelievable !!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:48 PM
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1. Is the earth expanding too???
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=misconceptions-about-the-2005-03&colID=1


>>Renowned physicists, authors of astronomy textbooks and prominent popularizers of science have made incorrect, misleading or easily misinterpreted statements about the expansion of the universe. Because expansion is the basis of the big bang model, these misunderstandings are fundamental. Expansion is a beguilingly simple idea, but what exactly does it mean to say the universe is expanding? What does it expand into? Is Earth expanding, too? To add to the befuddlement, the expansion of the universe now seems to be accelerating, a process with truly mind-stretching consequences.<<

Cuz if it is, it may explain how "gravity" works.

www.thefinaltheory.com

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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:54 PM
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2. I think you're wrong.
João Magueijo is a cosmologist and professor in theoretical physics at Imperial College London.

He is a pioneer of the varying speed of light (VSL) theory of cosmology, which proposes that the speed of light was much higher in the early universe, of 60 orders of magnitude faster than its present value. It is presented as an alternative to the more mainstream theory of cosmic inflation. The model was first proposed by John Moffat, a Canadian scientist, in 1992.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/João_Magueijo">João Magueijo - Wikipedia[br />
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:26 PM
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3. The only problem with VSL is that there is no evidence
to support such a conjecture; it hardly rises to the status of a scientific theory, or even a hypothesis. VSL was invented to support young earth creationist religious dogma. See http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/05/varying-speed-of-light-vsl-theories.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-creationists.html and http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html
for a better discussion of the VSL 'theory' and other creationist drivel.

Comaradebillyboy, BS Astrophysics, MS Nuclear Engineering, long time skeptic and long time student of creationism and ID distortions of science.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:59 PM
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5. bingo. it's creationist drivel
"VSL was invented to support young earth creationist religious dogma."

Thanks, C-billyboy
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:58 AM
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6. It's just the other side of the coin.
Inflationary theory assumes that space must have expanded rapidly, much faster than the speed of light. That's no weirder to me than the notion that the speed of light varied instead. If one can be modeled, it would seem to imply the possibility of the other.

Hey, whatever gets us warp drives. :D
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:54 PM
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4. in the first 10 mins. he said
Edited on Tue May-13-08 10:54 PM by Duppers

that no remnant light from the big bang has been found. That's bullcrap! This light is the cosmic microwave background.

I could not watch after that statement.

Is that wiki article suppose to impress me or something?
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