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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:29 AM
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On tap in space: Urine will not go to waste
WASHINGTON — Astronauts living on the International Space Station soon will take recycling to new extremes: They'll get some of their drinking water from the toilet.

NASA has spent decades perfecting a system to transform urine into water that can be used in space for drinking, food preparation and washing. Agency officials say the water from the system will be cleaner than U.S. tap water.

The new $250 million machine was being unpacked Wednesday at the space shuttle's Florida launch site. Shuttle Endeavour is scheduled to take it to the station this fall. If all goes well, the so-called toilet-to-tap system will be fully operational in six months.

Russia developed a similar system in the 1980s but it never flew in space because of concerns over crew squeamishness, says former station astronaut Leroy Chiao, now a space consultant. He says station crews expect hardships and aren't likely to object.

USA Today

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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:16 AM
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1. How could something like that possibly cost/be worth $250 million??
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:48 AM
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2. Perhaps same accounting or contracts that provides us with $2,000 toliet seats? nt
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 04:37 AM
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3. It's not as easy as it sounds...
Creating a reliable toilet for freefall proved a surprisingly tough technological challenge in developing the Space Shuttle...

Stil, a quarter billion?
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 04:18 PM
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5. Most likely the actual hardware doesn't cost that much.
Most of that cost is probably R&D. It's possible that the results of this research may be useful here on earth for water purification systems or maybe even home recycling systems.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:34 PM
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6. It cost at least that much just to design the help screens



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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:17 PM
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4. I wouldn't call this a *complete* waste ... I mean there is the aesthetic factor ...
"After breakfast, I hook a full urine bag to the overboard dump valve and am rewarded with the usual snowstorm of escaping white particles. The constellation 'Urion,' as Wally Schirra has dubbed it, is formed by the instantaneous freezing of the urine stream as it reaches the vacuum of space and breaks into thousands of individual miniature spheres. Cascading out in an irregular stream, they whiz past the window and tumble off into infinity, glistening virginal white in the sunlight instead of the nasty yellow we know them to be. The fairytale quality is typical of this place, an unreal world far above the unseen squalor below."
Michael Collins, "Carrying the Fire," p. 246
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:33 PM
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7. This is not a new concept. Mot when you consider that 90% of the waste water in our cities
goes into the fresh water input.
Next time you are in any US city get a glass of tap water,
hold it up to the light,
see that stuff swirling around?
That is TP.
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