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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:24 AM
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I heard that fourth cousins have no more DNA in common with each other than any two

random people. Anybody know about this?





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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:26 AM
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1. Delete
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 10:27 AM by waiting for hope
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:26 AM
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2. Answer here:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:29 AM
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3. First cousins might be the same
although if there are any genetic diseases within either family, genetic counseling is necessary before they reproduce.

By the time you get to fourth cousins, that's completely true.

Remember, even siblings can't often be sufficient genetic matches for transplant.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:32 AM
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4. First cousins-25% (1/4)
2nd=12.5% (1/8)
3rd =6.25% (1/16)
4th =3.125% (1/32)

I have no idea of the common ancestry of 2 random people. It would obviously depend on the pool from which you sample--worldwide, so that every human has an equal chance to be included? A small Greenland Inuit village? Probably everyone is at least 4th cousins.
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dnbn Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:24 PM
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12. You need to divide by 2. (nt)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:36 AM
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5. Whew!
FDR: I think it still increases the chance of idiot children.
ER: You can say that again!
FDR: I think it still increases the chance of idiot children.
ER: So, at least we have an excuse, the Churchills don't!
FDR: We're only 5th cousins, old girl.
ER: Damn.


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:37 AM
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6. If there are dangerous dominant traits in both main branches of the family, then it isn't...
... a matter of the percentage of common DNA in total, but instead what matters is the presence of one, particular dominant gene.

Genetic Counseling is called for, MOST especially if there is a known congenital defect that common in both of your families.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:39 AM
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7. Well, in my own case, it wouldn't matter, because I'm too old to have kids anyway. nt
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:54 AM
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8. The common ancestor between 5th cousins would be
their Great great great great grandparents. Or 6 generations previous.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:56 AM
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9. Wellllll probably depends if there were any inner breeding.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 11:02 AM
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10. It's not unusual to find fourth or fifth cousins marrying
and they don't even realize they are cousins. My ancestors who haled from New England were that way--it wasn't until I did the genealogy for the family than anyone realized that great great grandpa and great great grandma were cousins.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 11:46 AM
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11. There's not all that much risk for even first cousins...
which is why half of the states in this country allow first cousins to marry without restriction. The other half are silly.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 04:18 AM
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13. I wonder if there is a correlation ...
... between the "half of the states" that allow first cousins to marry
without restriction and their voting preferences ...?

:evilgrin:

(The risk for first cousins that you mention is only true for "clear"
bloodlines that haven't been closely intermingled further up the tree ...
the "first cousin" bit is simply the representation of the current
generation with respect to the direct parents, not the genetic mix
prior to that.)
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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 06:14 AM
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14. Yes, there is.
My grandmother and grandfather were from upper East TN/SW Virginia. There were four families in that area that were so intermarried that my grandparents were the genetic equivalent of first cousins. 4 of 5 siblings in my father's generation have had cancer (he's battling it right now) and two have died from it. I'd say there's one hell of a risk.
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scubadude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 04:06 PM
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15. Is that an area of heavy coal mining?
Edited on Wed Mar-11-09 04:07 PM by scubadude
If so they may do mountaintop removal there.

Here's a sobering map. Many many people in those areas are getting cancer.



Here's a link to an incredible site. They have a great documentary "Burning the Future:Coal in America". Watch it, it may bring a few tears and change your life forever.

http://www.burningthefuture.org/show.asp?content_id=14089

Scuba
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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 05:37 PM
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16. No, not at all.
Mainly agricultural.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 10:10 PM
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17. Don't fuck your cousin...
"Friends don't let friends fuck their cousins." That's the state motto of Kentucky btw.
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scubadude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 12:51 AM
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18. Why not. Einstein did....
He did, but I wouldn't...

Scuba
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