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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 07:29 AM
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"My Name is Luca... I lived 3 billion years ago
ONCE upon a time, 3 billion years ago, there lived a single organism called LUCA. It was enormous: a mega-organism like none seen since, it filled the planet's oceans before splitting into three and giving birth to the ancestors of all living things on Earth today.

This strange picture is emerging from efforts to pin down the last universal common ancestor - not the first life that emerged on Earth but the life form that gave rise to all others.

The latest results suggest LUCA was the result of early life's fight to survive, attempts at which turned the ocean into a global genetic swap shop for hundreds of millions of years. Cells struggling to survive on their own exchanged useful parts with each other without competition - effectively creating a global mega-organism.

It was around 2.9 billion years ago that LUCA split into the three domains of life: the single-celled bacteria and archaea, and the more complex eukaryotes that gave rise to animals and plants (see timeline). It's hard to know what happened before the split. Hardly any fossil evidence remains from this time, and any genes that date that far back are likely to have mutated beyond recognition.


SNIP.......


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228404.300-life-began-with-a-planetary-megaorganism.html
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 07:37 AM
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1. The mother in law of all life had a split personality? Well,,
That explains a lot about this world. Not to quibble, how do you fit three billion into 7000 years?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 07:44 AM
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2. .00000233?
Or do I need some more zeros?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:12 AM
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3. LOL!
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 11:13 AM
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6. What the hell are you talking about
There is no gender involved here.
What she is discussing is pre cell decision, much less the production of gametes.



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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 12:56 PM
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10. I wish upon you the gift of humor, although by the looks of things, you will
toss it out with the wrapping.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:02 PM
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11. LOL
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:14 AM
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4. Thanx for posting
:think:
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bluedave Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:26 AM
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5. I hear
they are good deepfried:sarcasm:
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 12:29 PM
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7. Now known as Gaia, and spinning up for some serious ass kicking.
It was a very bad idea shit in her swimming pool. :scared:

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:yoiks:

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 12:50 PM
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8. We All came from Luca.... who lives on the second floor.
..... but anyway..

We all came from something that was sexless.
Now, was Luca a boy or girl in the song?

I rest my case.


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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 12:54 PM
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9. Luka was a boy
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=3528

(Yeah, I know you didn't mean the question literally ...)
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:28 PM
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12. This concept of the conglomeration of these single-celled organisms being a "mega-organism"
(whatever that is) is a bit of a stretch.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 11:01 PM
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13. fascinating stuff
LUCA maybe should be renamed Gia... the great mother of all life.
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 05:00 AM
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14. Hmm- I wonder how this will affect those religious scientists who are trying to prove God's
Existence? They have done some really interesting work. I for one you will never be able to prove or disprove God- but I really like those with a strong believe in God feel that science is a part of that supreme being, not in conflict with it.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:47 AM
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15. They talk about LUCA like it's gone
Every domain of life on this planet is still interacting, exchanging energy (by being eaten, for example), finding new ways to exploit the environment to extract energy (as the LUCA biosystem did) -- seems to me that "LUCA" didn't go anywhere, it just got a lot more complicated than it used to be. It's still all one big system. None of the component organisms are self-sufficient.

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:41 PM
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17. interesting view point. It makes sense
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 10:08 AM
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18. That is such an important point. We face the threat of extinction
because we do not respect the dependency we have on our ecosystem.
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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:59 PM
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19. Just what I was thinking- but you said it better
than I could. Thanks, agree.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 11:08 PM
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21. True...and they talk about time like it exists outside of mind.
It's what they do.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:50 AM
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16. I disagree with this hypothesis.
IMO the Last Common Ancestor was already a fairly complex bacterium, something like the green sulfur bacteria. Eukaryotes and Archaea evolved from something similar to the plactomycete bacteria, many of which have nucleus-like structures and an actin cytoskeleton.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 05:16 PM
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20. Chris Moore wrote a novel about Luca
It's called Fluke.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 05:57 AM
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22. Ia! Ubbo-Sathla! The unbegotten source!
Ia! Ia!
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 07:57 AM
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23. That is not dead which can eternal lie. . . nt
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