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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:14 AM
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Bill would give those living in cars right to last few possessions
StarTribune.com
Bill would give those living in cars right to last few possessions

By NICK COLEMAN, Star Tribune

March 12, 2008

They let Tony Ruston take a shoe. One shoe. Ruston, 47, is homeless. Everything he owned was in a 1977 pickup with a camper on top, which is where he began living in 2006 after he lost his job as a truck driver. He wasn't alone in his choice of four-wheeled domiciles.

A growing number of people live in cars these days, forced out of their homes by foreclosures, too poor to find a place to sleep other than their back seat. But when you live on the street, or park your life on one, you can lose everything to a tow truck. That's why advocates for the homeless are hoping to win passage of a law in the Legislature that would let the homeless retrieve their belongings from vehicles in impound lots, even if they can't pay to get the car back. The House author, Rep. Frank Hornstein, DFL-Minneapolis, calls it, "The Let-people-get-their-stuff Bill."

Hornstein says it is a matter of "simple human dignity" and says the current law, which allows impound lots to auction vehicles with all their contents, does not take into account the fact that people living in their cars can suddenly find themselves deprived of their records, their medications, their keepsakes and sometimes even their children's homework. It's a throwback to feudal times when the king could take your cow, burn down your hut and throw you into the ditch.

That's pretty much how Ruston felt in December. His truck held his tools, his clothes, his papers, his mother's funeral program -- the only photo he had of his late mom, Lois, and a souvenir bell she had kept since she was 13. It's all gone now, except for one shoe that workers at the St. Paul city impound lot let Ruston take before his truck was auctioned off. The truck, which was licensed and insured, was worth about $2,500, Ruston says. But when it was towed from a St. Paul street (Ruston admits he had accumulated a number of unpaid parking tickets), the charge to get it released started at more than $200, and grew by $30 a day.

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"Most of these things are valuable to nobody but their owners, but they are all just destroyed," says Ron Elwood, a legal aid lawyer who is one of the advocates arguing for a law change. "It's idiotic: Pictures of grandparents, keepsakes, Christmas presents. We even heard of a case where they wouldn't give a wheelchair back. We want the law changed so that if you're poor, or you're homeless -- and you can prove it -- you can get your stuff.".. Ruston, who has lived in a shelter since losing his pickup, sees it all from the perspective of a person who has almost nothing left to him. "They didn't give me nothing except my shoe," he says. "I was angry. That truck was my only connection to any kind of independence. They took it away from me. They even took my mother's picture."

http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/16628686.html

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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:21 AM
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1. fuck that shit...let them park and not fucking ticket them!!!!
WHY IS BEING HOMELESS A CRIME???
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:22 AM
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2. That's just disgusting
They destroy those things???

That bill had best pass with 100% voting yes.
Anyone that votes no should be pilloried on TV as much as possible over it.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:58 PM
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11. Nobody will be "pilloried" except the homeless people themselves.
There are too many latte liberals who are skeeeeered to death of us homeless folk.

I guess they think we'll destroy their whole privileged lifestyle.

Gotta feel sorry for 'em... they're the ones with no soul.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 02:29 AM
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3. Then do they throw in a shopping cart so they can move their belongings?
Sweet Jesus, what's this world coming to. If all the people have left is their vehicle, why are they being allowed to take it away for lousy parking ticket fines in the first place.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:21 AM
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4. And people try to tell us how great America is.
This sort of shite is nothing new. If a person can't live up to the great American ideal of doing for oneself and being "self made" (whatever the fucking hell that is) then stiff fucking shit.

And don't try to tell me that that isn't "The Real America" it's as fucking real as it can get. The pollies play the "race", "welfare queen", "lazy bum", "health care parasite" cards and the voters rush to the polls to cut their own bloody throats.

Your nation bloody well deserves what it's doing to itself. We damned well don't deserve what you are doing to us. The sooner the good old US of A self destructs the better off the world will be.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:12 AM
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8. OMG! You are my hero!!! I've needed you to back me up on
so many boards with RW's spewing that same BS rhetoric at me. Your statements hit the nail on the head!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:59 PM
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12. You're right, of course. Just remember in your rage that it's WE the underclass
who will pay the price, not those who RICHLY DESERVE to pay the price.

Many of us will pay the ultimate price.

Does that matter in whatever country you represent?
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:28 PM
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15. Can't argue with it...
While the small slivers of indoctrinated patriotism in me recoil from the idea that "the sooner the good old US of A self destructs the better off the world will be," I really can't dispute it. The whole "self made" mentality you refer to is definitely polluting the economic reality of the entire world.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:18 PM
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5. K & R nt
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 03:42 PM
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6. Frank is my state rep.
I'm glad he's authored this.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:01 PM
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13. I hope you call and thank him! You can be sure he's getting plenty of hate calls
and mail.

Gotta reward the conscientious!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:28 PM
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7. I have been noticing more and more cars around town packed with stuff
It makes me think people are living in upstate NY winter out of their cars which must be painful. And having lived in the Twin Cities previously, I REALLY can't imagine that.

What a sad story, but thanks for posting it.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:41 PM
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10. My car is one of those. You should try it sometime.
The ugly stares, the condeming looks.

Even the nasty comments.

Yes, try it sometime and then you'll understand why some of us are angry.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:29 PM
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9. A few days after this article ran, an impound lot owner
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 12:30 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
had the nerve to write in to the paper and claim that it was the car owner's own fault that his stuff got destroyed because he should have paid his parking tickets. Obviously someone who has never been poor.

And even if you accept the impound lot owner's premise, it's just gratuitous cruelty to not let owners retrieve their possessions.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:02 PM
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14. What you securely housed can do to show solidarity, is pack your own cars
and let everyone know that you have support for those who live in their cars.

You can be sure it will be appreciated!!
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