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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 04:41 AM
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I meet with the surgeon tomorrow

On the bright side, the PET scan shows it hasn't metastasized. On the downside, they're worried about my liver (30 years of alcohol abuse has taken its toll). So who knows?

Might be surgery, might just be a bunch of chemo.

On the other hand, I'm expected to live. Send your regrets to my wife. She has to put up with another 40 years of me.

You guys too, except you can unsubscribe at will, or just put me on ignore.

- t
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 10:23 AM
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1. If you're feeling up to it,
give me another call tomorrow night and let me know what he has to say. :hug:

I'm sure the C&B Group has no problems putting up with you and your quirky humor. LOL
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 10:31 AM
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2. It sounds like the news is mixed
and that you've got another few months of ill health ahead of you. My advice is to milk it for all it's worth because there are so few times we're fully justified in being whining crybabies.

At least this time you know what to expect. Having an ugly surprise always makes the first time harder.

I found out my eyes are stable for now and that I might be a candidate for a modified transplant in my left eye 5 years or so down the road. The cornea isn't quite as badly damaged and a thin section could be used instead of replacing the whole deal.

So today I'll be celebrating the last chilly day of the year with a pot of potato and leek soup, something I need to start momentarily to have ready for lunch.

The desert gods are just about ready to flip the switch that sends the daily high back into the 80s and 90s after the snow we had on Friday.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 11:12 AM
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3. Last chilly day of the year?

How do you know that?

Maybe I'm cynical, but I live in New Englad (motto: "if you don't like the weather, just wait a minute")

Sorry about your eyes. What's up with them?

My dog (yes, same thieving bastard dog) stole my glasses and chewed them up, so now I'm wearing these cheap-ass drugstore glasses. They work for most things, but I can't read small print anymore.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 11:57 AM
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4. New Mexico tends to get hot and stay that way
after the end of April/first week of May. The weather here is mostly predictable: lots of strong sun and a few light showers here and there.

After it gets hot, I'm afraid it's lots of salads and ding-ding food for me, although I do crack from time to time and make a loaf of bread in the solar oven.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 12:30 PM
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5. "ding-ding" food?

And you do crack?

That may explain a lot...
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 01:23 PM
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8. This morning was a total change of weather
I am at Prescott, AZ, a mile high. This morning was the very FIRST WARM morning. We've had warm afternoons, but a warm morning marks the change. It has been a long, slow arrival to spring. I think we've passed the 'false spring', with the arrival of the warm morning (instead of freakin' coooold). We've had crazy winds sometimes lately... 50-65 mph, dust EVERYWHERE! Wind stripped the tree blossoms in minutes. Had some minor damage (canvas rooftop cooler cover shredded, storm door glass uninstalled, bird feeder & metal bracket dismounted from post, tree branches everywhere)... but it was sunny!

I'm ready for the change. It has seemed long-coming this time. I hasven't planted, because we have still had subfreeze overnights sometimes. TODAY, I think I can plant.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 01:45 PM
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9. I'm a mile up, too
and it's nice to know a warm morning is only a couple of days away. It's still chilly here, in the 50s, but they're saying 80 by Wednesday.

The dust here has been so thick I haven't been able to see the mountains 8 miles away.

My soup is bubbling away and I'll go in with the immersion blender in a few minutes.

I always hate to see summer come and the soups go, unless they're Japanese soups based on dashi.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 03:26 PM
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13. I've just been there once in October

but I'm reminded of the Jeff Dunham comedy routine...

"Albuquerque in August? Your travel agent must be an idiot"

"Oh, but it's a DRY heat. A bonfire's a dry heat, but you don't see me sticking my ass into one of those, do you?"
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 03:00 PM
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11. My mother was a Physician's Assistant

(just a step below a doctor)

She is one of the most caring women I know.

So, I married someone in the nursing field.

Let me tell you, being married to a nurse and being the child of a nurse are two different things (my mother didn't make it to a PA until I was much older).

Unfortunately, I can be a whining crybaby to everyone BUT my wife, who is really the only person I want to be a whining crybaby to.

As an article I read listed....

-------------------------

This is for anyone who has ever been a nurse or loved one...
It was Written by a husband of a nurse.......

Ah, such mysterious, wondrous creatures are nurses.

Reality check! I've been married to a nurse for a quarter of a century, and
let me tell you, nurses are not what you expect (and I don't even care what
you expect, because you are wrong!). Let's begin by tearing down some of the
more famous assumptions about nurses right off the top:

The Nurse as an Angel:
If you want to hear the latest gross jokes, just find a nurse. Some
uninformed males seem to think of nurses as angelic creatures: demure and
loving, a cross between a nun and their mom. Well, hate to bust your bubble,
guy, but as a group, nurses are some of the rawest folks you'll ever run
into. I don't care how sweet and demure they may look on the outside inside
is someone who has seen things that would gag a maggot, break your heart, or
drive a normal person nuts. So most nurses develop a very wicked sense of
humor squarely lodged in the black-to-sick side of the scale. Also, in case
you are looking for angelic sympathy for the little boo-boo you had in the
shop, forget it! Let's say as a typical male klutz, you manage to saw your
finger off. You go running to your nurse wife who is on the phone with a
nurse friend of hers. As she continues to talk to her friend, she gives the
stub a good eyeballing, slaps a towel on it, takes out a baggie to put the
severed digit in, and tells you to get some ice while she is explaining to
her friend that her dummy husband just sawed his finger off. As you stand
there bleeding profusely for 15 minutes she calmly finishes her conversation
as though nothing is going on until finally she says, 'well I guess I better
get him to the hospital'. She hangs up the phone, looks at you, sighs and
calmly says, 'let's go'. You have just learned an important lesson. On the
nurse scale of emergencies, yours is about a minus 9! As my wife has told
me, 'when you are on a ventilator, with six drips running, your head down
and your feet up, then you're sick. Anything less than that isn't worth
getting excited over!'

The Nurses Mutual Benefit Network:
As a male either dating or married to a nurse, you should realize one
important thing. There are nurses everywhere. That, in itself, is no big
deal. The fact is, every nurse knows other nurses who know more nurses, so
that by the time you are finished, a nurse on the Island Nation of Chuuk who
observes you doing something you shouldn't has the immediate capability of
getting word to your wife. This system is way more reliable and efficient
than the Internet and has existed for a much longer time. Take it for
granted that your nurse wife will know about anything you have done, good or
bad, before you get home!

Your Social Life with Nurses:
Nurses hang out with other nurses and soon you may find that all your
friends are married to nurses. The reason this happens is because in
situations where nurses mingle with non medical folks things can get ugly.
For example, you are out to dinner with your nurse wife, another nurse
couple, and two civilian couples. The nurses sit and chat, discussing fun
things like bleeding bowels, open sores, how much fat was sucked out of some
patient, projectile vomiting, traumatic amputations, etc., all over a nice
pasta dinner. The nurses carry on talking as the civilian couples turn funny
colors, make faces and suppress their gag reflexes (and this is if the
nurses don't have any really gross things to share like the homeless guy
with maggots in his bleeding sores!) After several dinners and gatherings
like this, you will soon find your circle of friends has shrunk
significantly. The key to avoiding this is to do the following: Never go
out in mixed groups with more than one nurse. A lone nurse is ok. The
trouble starts when you have more than one, and when that happens, keep the
regular folks away. Also get used to the idea that some friends and
neighbors will take advantage of the fact that your wife is a nurse by
calling at all hours of the day and night for advice. This may include male
friends 'dropping by' to show your sweetie his rash. The best advice I can
give is to just deal with it and hope it isn't contagious.

The Health Ramifications of being with a Nurse:
Most nurses have been described as having the constitution of horses which
isn't true because I've been around horses and they get sick more often. The
reason for this is pretty simple. After about 3-5 years on the job, nurses
have been exposed to so many bugs that they either end up dead or full of
every antibody known to mankind. (If you want the ultimate booster shot,
just get a blood transfusion from a nurse who's worked in a hospital for 20
years!) You don't have all these antibodies, though, so when she does come
home with mild sniffles, a week later you're flat on your back with the
worse case of the flu of your life!! Oh, and if you are the least bit
squeamish, don't even think about the bugs she brings home on her clothes.
It will mess with your mind as she talks about her resistant TB patient, the
patient full of body lice, or the one with poison ivy in his mouth! so don't
ask.

Conclusion: Ah such mysterious, wondrous creatures are nurses!!!!!!!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 07:19 PM
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14. That's us, all right.
I noticed something happening about halfway through nursing school. I'd be invited to somebody's house for dinner and I'd be talking about what I was doing in school. Faces would go green and forks would drop and that's when I realized I'd never be a civilian again.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:32 PM
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15. My mother, for sympathy, yes. My wife - almost never.

Except that I live with my wife.

Even with cancer, she gives no sympathy except for my darkest days under chemo, and that's only if a doctor reaffirms the fact that I might be sick or in pain.

The second I show the slightest sign of being barely functional, it's "get the f*ck up you lazy bastard".

As much as I love her, if I had to redo it again, I'd really rethink the desire to marry a nurse. Perhaps someone less jaded would be more sympathetic.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:43 PM
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16. It's not just being jaded
it's knowing the biggest favor we can do for somebody is boot their ass out of bed and get them moving.

Blood clots and pneumonia will ruin your day even worse than the original disease did.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 09:01 PM
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18. No, she's not thinking that far ahead.

She just wants my ass out of bed.

I just want to sleep.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:05 AM
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24. What is this thing you call "chilly"?
(uttered as we face our earliest 100F+ day that I can ever recall, and break 100-yr-old records by ten degrees.......)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 01:01 PM
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6. So this is just a meeting, right? To put the strategy together?
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 01:04 PM
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7. I've never met him

So I guess he's going to review my records and decide if he wants to operate and, if so, when.

I switched providers so we have to start a number of things over again.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 02:54 PM
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10. "I switched providers so we have to start a number of things over again."
Ah .... the joys of health care financing.

I wish you all the very best!
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 03:18 PM
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12. Thanks

Hoping for the best.

Planning for the worst.

Must be the software engineer in me.
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pengillian101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 09:05 PM
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19. Hoping for the best for you, Tab!
The unknown is the worst. It sounds like you have many positives - draw on them and of course your online C&B pals are here for you, too. :grouphug:

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 08:59 PM
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17. Tab
Best of luck to you.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 11:01 PM
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20. when I first read your post heading, I read
"I meet with a sturgeon tomorrow" and figured you were going to be cooking fish. :blush: Thought I'd tell ya and maybe get a smile out of you. ;)
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 11:08 PM
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21. Well, in the meantime I should work on my piano

Because you can tuna a piano but you can't tuna fish.

It's midnight and I should go to bed.

I would have gone earlier, but my wife had a haddock.

Stop me now...
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 11:48 PM
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22. stop...stop!
You're so bad! I've got a brother like you. A sample: "What do they speak in Wales? Welsh. What do they speak in Belgium? Belch!"
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:12 AM
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23. Or that Jeff Dunham joke

"What's that thing you used to wear? That plastic watch?

"You mean the one back in the 80s? It was made in Switzerland... They called it a 'SWATCH'.

"Oh good thing it wasn't made in Croatia... 'Gee, what time is it?' 'I don't know, let me look at my Crotch'".
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:41 PM
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25. PLEASE CALL when you get home!
:grouphug:
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 07:34 PM
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26. Call where?

I don't have your number.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:33 PM
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27. Tab, should have said,
:sarcasm: , Kid! Really wanted to hear from you in one way or another, let us know how you are.

:hug:
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:09 PM
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28. You've gotta work on your sarcasm, girl...

I could teach you something about that.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:12 PM
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29. Its true, Tab;
and FEW 'get' my jokes!!!
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:14 PM
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30. Rough status update
Hi,

I met with the surgeon today - he's comfortable doing the surgery, but informed me of the risks involved. Apparently my platelet level has risen to the point that, although not perfect, is enough to make him comfortable. There's not 100% chance of success, but it's high enough to make it more likely than not that I will get through it just fine.

We scheduled a surgery date of May 11th (3 weeks from today). They called later to ask me if I wanted to take advantage of an unexpected opening next Monday. I said I would want to talk about it with my wife (and just sort of sleep on it); my inclination is that a week is too soon, and three weeks would let the platelets recover more, thus increasing the chance of success, but I'm not reaching a decision tonight. I'll have to decide in the morning, though.

Further, he said to expect a week in the hospital, probably four weeks at home to decently recover (during which I will be probably non-functional immediately but increasingly functional over the month) and there could be anywhere from six months to a year of follow-up chemo, but we won't know until they actually get in there what the needs are, and my oncologist will be the one to actually determine what the style of chemo is (I had infusion earlier, which generally makes me tired and a little sick, but isn't as bad as the weekly one which I guess lays you out for two days). Anyway, the decision of what kind, or the duration, isn't being made right now.

So, that's all I know for now, but these guys are a lot more pro-active (and generally just better) than the last set.

- Tab
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:22 PM
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31. Hey Tab .......
I ain't much a prayer person, although I do confess to this vague belief in God. I'm pullin' for ya. I'm thinking he's probably listening in when I do, cuz I ain't for nothin' for myself.

Also, these I got plenty of. Take all ya need.

:hug:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:37 PM
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32. Don't worry that much about the platelets
because if they take another dive after surgery, they'll just give you a six pack (not as much fun as it sounds, 6 units of platelets) and keep you healthy and recovering.

The fact that you've recovered enough on your own to schedule surgery is a very good sign.

It just sucks facing another damn surgery. As someone who went through five of them last spring, one after the other, every 2 weeks, I can commiserate, even though getting an eyeball cut is a far cry from getting cut into.

In any case, it's far better to get it over and done with ASAP. That also raises chances for complete success.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:49 PM
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33. Thinking of you.
Take your time making decisions.

:hug:

No joke. :-)
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:02 PM
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34. Sounds like generally positive news, Tab
I'm so happy for your! While there are never any guarantees, it sounds like you are in much better hands and that they're on your side.

Thanks for the update, you have a bunch of friends here who are all pulling for you too.

By the way, this might give you a smile... I got a new dog about 5 weeks ago, a smallish old english sheepdog, 4 yrs old, about 70 lbs. Yeah, you guessed it... a little thieving bastard! First day I'd left her at home to go to work, I came home to discover that she'd been ON TOP of my dining room table after some glucosamine chews... walked her way down to the hinged end that was up, caused the table to tilt over, everything to go flying all over the room, and left the table with a broken leg! Would have loved to have seen a video of the scene, but it wasn't so funny when I got home. A few days later, I made my first loaf of sourdough bread from my new starter and left it out on the counter to cool... forgot about it and went out... came home to find the whole 1.5 lb loaf missing without a crumb in sight. Ongoing vigilence to try to keep her from stealing the old dog's food because she eats like a vacuum cleaner and he's used to being free-fed. It's a circus around here! :rofl:

Sleep tight, make a decision tomorrow and keep moving forward... doing what you need to do to take good care of yourself. Thanks for letting us all know.


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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:13 PM
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35. Officially set now for May 11th

Will be in for a week, limited functionality of probably another month as I recover, then anywhere from six months to a year's worth of chemo.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:33 PM
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36. Tab, glad to hear you've made a decision,
and have some time to acclimatize. (is that a word???)

You probably know this, but be sure you and yours (professional in the family, right?) know all the potential side-effects of everything that will be happening. (Reason I mention this: husband had mouth surgery and radiation, wasn't informed of potential effect of radiation on salivary glands. and dental/cancer guy didn't tell him he'd remove more than 1 tooth.)

Have been and will continue to think of you. No joke. :hug:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:46 PM
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37. Time to prepare yourself in a way
I'll sure miss your special brand of postings while you're in the hospital. But I know that you'll be back as soon as you're able.

:hug:
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sazemisery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:52 PM
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38. Here's looking forward to your posts until then.
And waiting for you to return after.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 06:36 PM
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39. We're pulling for you.
We'll tempt you with yummies while you're on chemo.
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