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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:19 PM
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Linux: OpenSUSE 10.3, Fedora 8, or Ubuntu?
I've played around a bit with SUSE before it switched to Open, and I've played around with Fedora back when it was Red Hat, and I've started looking at Ubuntu.

What I want to know is which one, listed here or other, is the strongest, most user friendly, most real world USEFUL package to install? Which one has the least problems with graphics card drivers, multimedia friendliness, and mp3 compatibility?

My personal favorite is (was?) SUSE, but here that means absolutely nothing as I'm a Windoze man (Man, NOT Fan). I'd LIKE to have a good, useful Linux machine for the simple reasons of variety and keeping an eye on the future.

Opinions?

Note: I'll be installing the one I decide upon as a dual-boot with XP, so ease of installation and partition configuration is a plus.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:55 PM
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1. I've used all three ...
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 10:57 PM by RoyGBiv
By way of introduction, I'll say that my opinion of all distros these days is somewhat skewed by the fact that my system now is a bastardization of two different ones and includes elements that are packaged originally in neither. I certainly don't run what could be called a home-brew distro, but I also don't run anything that you can get off the distribution disc alone.

And therein lies the rub with some of your requirements ... and the requirements of pretty much anyone who uses a computer for anything these days. Due to patents and copyrights, distros tend not to work "out of the box" for everything you want to do, particularly involving multimedia and wireless networking. Consider mp3 compatibility. The problem with this is not the format or the ability to use it. The problem is a legal one involving patents. It is beyond simple to make any Linux installation work with mp3s, but distributions tend not to have it incorporated from the get-go because they could get sued. Overall there are libraries available or in production as alternatives to the standard "just works" variants, but you usually have to get those on your own.

Anyway, I disliked Fedora the times I tried it, and I haven't used more recent versions, so I'll avoid comment.

SuSE and Ubuntu are of course two of the major players. Ubuntu has a "just works" factor that appeals to many, and the ability to update it with the customizations that allow you to do things like read DVDs and play MP3s is well documented and simple. This distro is, by my perception, geared more toward the home user with its inclusions in the main package, and as a Windows user, you may find it more friendly than others.

The vanilla version of SuSE is what I began using on my main system a few years ago. It's gone through several iterations, some of which have royally sucked (versions 10.0-10.2 were stinkers with broken crap all over the place), but the present 10.3 is stable. It includes some distro-specific tools, such as SAX2 and YAST, that appeal to Windows users because they simplify the process of administration of the hardware and the system as a whole. It's package management system is the same as Fedora's (rpm), which I don't like as well as Ubuntu's, but it usually works, and the openSuSE team have developed a repository structure that is more efficient than what previously existed. Updating for multimedia, etc. is, again, well-documented.

I don't think you can go wrong with either version, but I'll offer a warning about SuSE. The upcoming 11.0 version has some issues. It is currently in an alpha stage, so that is to be expected, but the direction it is going has me wary. The new desktop manager KDE 4.0, in particular, has some serious bugs *and* new elements that I dislike even when they do work. YMMV. So, you could install 10.3, but fairly soon (by late summer probably) you'll either have to decide to stick with that version or be prepared to upgrade to something that's going to look and act in some ways totally different than what you've worked so hard to get used to.

(Of course, if you go the route of learning about the command line, this won't be as much of an issue, but I don't detect that as your goal here.)

In the end, the truly nice thing about distro shopping is it is basically free. Try 'em both. All you are investing is time.
Hope that ramble helps some.

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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:11 PM
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2. It pretty much points me in the direction I was walking in.
I'm an old DOS man- time was I could put together a fair autoexec.bat file, so learning the command line again doesn't frighten me. It might be interesting to go back to it for a while- hell, when I want to do XP network diagnosis I always do the ol' ipconfig and ping commands in a DOS box anyway- it's quicker and more direct. There's an elegance about the command line that's missing from the gui- most people have no idea about that side of it. They're lost without their mouse clicks. (They have no idea what keyboard shortcuts are about, either...)

Thanks for your input.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:47 AM
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3. I tried Ubuntu for a while.



Thought it was OK but went back to Windoze because I couldn't find that many apps that would work with it. Maybe later on down the road I'll try it again after it has been out for a while.



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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:24 AM
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4. I just loaded Mandriva 2008.1
Give it a try, especially the Powerpack. It is very, very nice. It boots very fast and the feature set is amazing.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:02 PM
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5. If you go with the dual boot, I recommend a second HD to keep both systems separate.
I even think swapping HD's in and out is better than dual boot or even picking up a second machine at a lawn sale for about $50. I got Ubuntu up and running in about 30min and the only thing I had to add for dialup was an external serial modem. (no support for winmodems but good nic support).
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:58 PM
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6. Ubuntu.
I think Ubuntu has the most active and welcoming community for new users, and it's based on Debian which makes installing new packages and upgrading old ones easy. (Take my advice for what it's worth, Debian has always been my favorite Linux.)

http://www.ubuntu.com

The clean, legal install of Ubuntu does not support multimedia and other protocols encumbered with digital rights management (DRM), copyright and patent issues, but it's fairly easy to add "dirty" repositories supporting these features, and you'll learn a little bit about the nuts and bolts of it along the way.

How to do multimedia on Ubuntu, at your own risk:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4096838&postcount=1

My favorite thing about Linux these days is that I can easily emulate every machine I've ever built or owned -- COSMAC ELF, Sinclair ZX-80, Atari 800, Macintosh SE/30, IBM PC and up. I can still run software I wrote thirty years ago, and it amuses me that my first very serious computing was done with BSD Unix, and now I'm back to using a very similar operating system with Debian.

Thirty years from now I expect everything Microsoft Windows will exist as a dusty old library for Linux or BSD distributions.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:47 PM
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7. I've prefered using Ubuntu for home, Fedora for work servers.
:shrug:
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 11:57 PM
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8. Hardy Heron puked on me.
I was running Gutsy Gibbon for two weeks, stable, but now the Ubuntu 8.04 displeases me greatly.

I'm formatting my hard drive for a spin on Mandriva.

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JPettus Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:11 AM
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9. I'm still downloading it
Since it's been released less than three days it's still not easy to download the files. Once I do, I will look to upgrade from Gutsy.

Gutsy I've liked. I will let you know what I think of HH once I get it installed and run it a few days.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:52 AM
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10. Here's my adventure over the weekend.
I tried Mandriva, and I liked the KDE setup, but Mandriva didn't have very much in the way of games or support - I had no idea that there was a KDE version of Ubuntu called Kubuntu - so I downloaded that over the weekend, loaded it up last night, and it's been GREAT (Hardy Heron too). I'm not going to reformat my hard drive for the 4th time. Nvidia driver was a minor problem, but it was quickly corrected - thanks to the help of the Ubuntu community on IRC.

Hawkeye-X
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:26 PM
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11. xubuntu looks pretty nifty too.
The next box I find is going to get that.

http://www.xubuntu.org
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