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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 06:31 PM
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The Cardinal Grand Cross... a couple articles & a question.
Edited on Tue Feb-16-10 07:13 PM by lildreamer316
I was reading the other thread and went in search of some info. Found this series:
Part 1:
http://astrologyforthesoul.com/billstreett/2010alignment.html
Part 2:
http://astrologyforthesoul.com/billstreett/2010alignmentparttwo.html
Part 3:
http://astrologyforthesoul.com/billstreett/2010generationalimplications.html

He did write these in 2004, however.

NOTE about how this will affect people personally:
"
The T-square between Saturn, Uranus, and Pluto occurs in the very late degrees of what are called the “mutable signs” (specifically, the T-square occurs in Virgo, Sagittarius, and Pisces, with the additional mutable sign being Gemini) and the very early degrees of “cardinal signs” (specifically, the T-square occurs in Libra, Capricorn, and Aries, with the additional cardinal sign being Cancer). Certainly, those with their Sun or Moon placement within these “power zones” of the late mutable or early cardinal signs are sure to feel the effects of this dramatic alignment quite prominently in their lives. "

So who here has a Sun or Moon placement in Libra, Capricorn, Aries, or Cancer?

I'll add more as I come across them. Feel free to add as well!!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 09:29 PM
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1. I have a Libra moon
I'm a Leo with Scorpio ascending as well.

lildreamer, thanks for posting the articles, and I'll be sure to check them out!

:hug:
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:31 PM
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2. Vix
I have your chart. THe coming ingress of Jupiter and Uranus into Aries will oppose your natal Moon from the 4th house. This will definitely, on the outside, make you want to renew your settings, move or update your house to make it more open and colorful. On the insides, it will do the same to your heart. Expand your feelings anew and refresh and rebirth yourself. This can be a wonderful advantageous step for you if you pick up the currents and go with it. Good luck. :hi:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 05:01 AM
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3. Moon in Capricorn here.
Edited on Wed Feb-17-10 05:01 AM by BlueIris
Not to tempt fate, but I'm not too worried about this transit's potential effect on me. I have so many other harsh astro trends going on right now that I doubt its even going to register.

Hey, I posted NOT to tempt fate. Fate--stay back. I'm not afraid of you.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 05:23 AM
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4. Gemini Sun, Cancer Moon... hmm, i suspect pyrotechnics in my future.
well, i always loved fireworks; the trick is to not get burned...
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 07:17 AM
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5. Cardinal Grand Cross as viewed from down under
LD, I saw that article in my quest the other day -- thanks for bringing it back up here. Actually, Anne Ortelee's weekly forecast last week brought up the topic, which is what got me going. Here is some more that I found on it. I apologize for the length, but there is a *lot* of info presented:

http://www.theonelightgroup.com/latest/grand-cardinal-cross-late-2010
Read the full article on http://www.realitysandwich.com/tranceformations_2010



The exponential acceleration and evolution is upon us.

Astrologically, the summer’s Grand Cardinal Cross of 2010 far surpasses any events on the winter solstice of 2012 for catalyzing consciousness. In many ways, the whole next decade, and even the priorities and motivations for humanity’s next century are being seeded in the trance-formations of 2010.....

One of the great tests of transitioning into the Aquarian age will be the full embodiment of its opposite sign, Leo by each individual. We can only enter into the egalitarian, idealist vision of the cosmic Aquarian tribe if each individual discovers the Source within them, and channels their unique offerings for the healing and evolution of earth. During this Mars retrograde in Leo, and until Mars leaves Leo in late May, we should ask ourselves what specific gift can I contribute to the tribe? And how do I sabotage myself in offering this gift through impatient decision making, an insufficient strategy, or a lack of teamwork?....

....One of the great tests of transitioning into the Aquarian age will be the full embodiment of its opposite sign, Leo by each individual. We can only enter into the egalitarian, idealist vision of the cosmic Aquarian tribe if each individual discovers the Source within them, and channels their unique offerings for the healing and evolution of earth. During this Mars retrograde in Leo, and until Mars leaves Leo in late May, we should ask ourselves what specific gift can I contribute to the tribe? And how do I sabotage myself in offering this gift through impatient decision making, an insufficient strategy, or a lack of teamwork? ....

....Summer Climax: The Grand Cardinal Cross

Right before the moment of coherence is the point of maximum chaos. We are now there at the topof the roller coaster, zero point, chaos point.

Just two years before the Mayan calendar end date of December 21,2012, in the summer of 2010, 2 transpersonal planets, Uranus and Pluto, 2 social planets, Jupiter and Saturn, and 2 personal planets, the Sun and Mars, will confront each other upon the Cross of Matter in one of the most intense formations in all of astrology, often experienced only once in a human lifetime, a Grand Cardinal Cross. The waiting is over....

The Cardinal signs are the initators of the zodiac, the outward, expressive thrust of energy in each of the four elements and seasons. Hence, Aries is Cardinal Fire and the spark of spring. Cancer is cardinal water and begins at the summer solstice. Libra is cardinal air and marks the equinox. Capricorn is cardinal earth and initiates the dark season at the winter solstice. Since they rule the seasons, the alignment of many planets upon the Cardinal Cross can literally change the face of the earth. We are about to embark on a time of dramatic change, mounting tension, and the aching pulse for a whole new paradigm for human existence.

In his Cosmos and Psyche, Richard Tarnas describes the rare experiences where multiple archetypal cycles overlap, involving Saturn, Uranus, and Pluto, as begins in 2010. We find this explosive dynamic during the French Revolution, the years 1964-67, and 1929-1933.

Tarnas writes, "Especially problematic in such eras was the extreme intensification of both wisdespread revolutionary upheaval and violent authoritarian repression in a tightly bound dialectic, mutually activating each other."

Those specially affected by this transit, with an important role to play as initiators of this will have planets at the first degrees of the Cardinal signs and the last degrees of the mutable signs, Gemini, Sagitarrius, Virgo, Pisces. There will be a surge of intense stress, motivation, and passion in the planets located at these positions. Let them be your guides for your next phase of evolution.....

....The other side of Saturn-Pluto is that an unveiling occurs. While certain people and institutions will close down in fear, many people will wake up. In 2001, many people awoke to the deception, lies, and fear-mongering of the government. Also, earlier in the year, many government and military officials announced their knowledge of alien species and UFOs on this planet, as part of the Disclosure Project. Indeed, much will be disclosed in 2010, which will serve to either traumatize or give massive epiphanies to people, depending on their perspective on the events which occur. In fact, we are being invited into the heartsource of the problems that exist. If there is a group who hates another group of people, the question to ask is why? What is the root of this issue? In this strategy the solution may be found not in the increase in security measures that obviously do not work. If other civilizations are here and want to help us in our transition to a new earth, why is this being hidden from us?



Uranus-Pluto: Talkin' Bout a Revolution

If there are more threats or another attack on this country, how will we individually and collectively react? We must build conscious, compassionate dialogues around this. If we find ourselves inside of clamp-down legislation, it will likely result in revolutionary action by U.S. citizens and different world populations this year with the Uranus-Pluto square, a five-year transit that promises to shake up every institution through rebellious movements for freedom and liberation. ....

....It is essential that we stay informed to stay empowered in 2010, because the rapid motion will likely feel overwhelming at times. With our willing participation and community support we can co-create the world we want to live in.

The best way of working with the intensity of this summer's energy is to do one's own alchemical and shamanic work, cleansing the old baggage, the outdated dualistic perspectives. Gratitude and forgiveness are some of the best tools for breaking through the irritable, frustrating, finger-pointing and name-calling that can occur. Aligning oneself with peaceful and creative strategies for traversing the coming changes is key. Gaia, our mother, is shapeshifting. We are her stewards. With the Bodhisattva vow to save all sentient beings, let us embrace each other, let down our defenses, and move into the unified field of love, life, and harmony.



Channeled Message for 2010

This year, you will access your inner prophet and recognize its voice as the designer of destiny, the diviner of collective rebirth. ....










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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 07:56 AM
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6. Excellent!!!

Thank you for this, NL!

"...One of the great tests of transitioning into the Aquarian age will be the full embodiment of its opposite sign, Leo by each individual. We can only enter into the egalitarian, idealist vision of the cosmic Aquarian tribe if each individual discovers the Source within them, and channels their unique offerings for the healing and evolution of earth. During this Mars retrograde in Leo, and until Mars leaves Leo in late May, we should ask ourselves what specific gift can I contribute to the tribe? And how do I sabotage myself in offering this gift through impatient decision making, an insufficient strategy, or a lack of teamwork? ....

....Summer Climax: The Grand Cardinal Cross

Right before the moment of coherence is the point of maximum chaos. We are now there at the topof the roller coaster, zero point, chaos point."


Yep, yep....maximum chaos, critical mass...I feel it all. Yet a sense of excitement, too, that -- if I can just hold it together and maintain sanity -- the really good stuff, the fun stuff, is truly on the horizon.

I'm going to come back to this a lot. :)

:hug:


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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 08:41 AM
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7.  Yes and yes again! i was going to read that this morning!
Sorry for hijacking your thread idea,but I wanted to make sure we sparked a good discussion of this; as it seems this is what we have really been building toward..and here it comes, fast as all get-out.

I'm going back to read that article in depth.
This is INTENSE stuff!!
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:51 AM
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9. lildreamer, I'm GRATEFUL you "hijacked" my thread
Edited on Wed Feb-17-10 10:52 AM by northernlights
or rather, brought this very important topic back to the surface :D I wanted to spark this discussion too. Thought the spark had gone out...thank you for blowing on it :hug: :loveya: :hug:
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 08:46 AM
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8. I have a Moon in Cancer
I'll have to look at those.

BTW, there's a lot of info and interpretations regarding Pluto. How can that be since Pluto has such a very short astrological history (discovered in 1930) relative to the planets?
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:55 AM
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10. Sag rising sun and moon in gemini
What effects does the cross have on this ?
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:03 PM
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11. Starseeker Connection on the coming Grand Cross
http://www.starseekerconnection.com/2009/11/cardinal-grand-cross-configuration-of.html

June 25 to August 5, 2010 is when Pluto, Uranus, Saturn, Jupiter and Mars finally create their Grand Cross pattern, all aligning at the beginning degrees of the four Cardinal signs! This will indeed be a time of intense and dramatic change worldwide. Look to your own natal chart Houses of Life Experience to see where the signs of Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn will be dancing and making changes in your life. Cancer and Aries in my chart are in the 11th and 8th Houses of Life Experience. This means my Future Self and the friends and allies I want to bring along with me (11th House), and my Joint Resources, sexuality and psychological self (8th House) will be at play, squaring off with Capricorn and Libra, respectively.

Finally, November 1 to December 26, 2010 is round two of the Grand Cross Pattern, adding in the Moon's Nodes to the mix. The bottom line: be as positive and loving as you can every day; be patient with yourself and others; be pro-active and take responsibility for your own stuff, rather than blaming others (i.e. the governments, doctors or lawyers).

It is a time to reinvent ourselves into a new form and way of being. Both Neptune and Uranus have been traveling in each others signs (Neptune in Aquarius and Uranus in Pisces) paving the way for all of us to open our minds and hearts to our Spiritual selves, incorporating that part of ourselves consciously into the everyday of our lives for the past 7-10 years. Notice the change in consciousness globally: the spiritual movies, TV shows, books, workshops, even people using crystals and aromatherapy in the workplace to reduce stress. None of which existed 10 years prior!

The Cardinal Grand Cross portends a time of living our spirit, consciously, with intent, for now on. What side of the Integrity Fence (Capricorn) do you reside on? How well are you living your life Independent of others expectations (Aries)? How much Nurturing (Cancer) are you allowing for yourself, first, then others? Is Equality and for the Good of All (Libra) working in all of your relationships?

We live in interesting and challenging times! Are you ready for it?

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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:20 PM
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12. Creative Pathways take on the Grand Cross
http://www.creativepathways.us/

The “Good News” for those of you who thrive and do their most creative work in climates of challenge and change, it will be a very good year. Those of you born in the first 10-12 days of Aries, Cancer, Libra, and Capricorn or have planets in these signs will be challenged to let go of anything blocking you from bringing your gifts out to the world. So prepare for lots of hard work and new directions! Our Pisces friends will experience an abundance of new opportunities this year as Jupiter travels through your sign. The trick is to grab that brass ring.

The “Bad News” is for those souls uncomfortable with change, or desperately hanging on to the past. This year will be challenging as the energies of the breakdown process of all things Capricorn will be cranked up another notch. This intensification will be especially true for our early Capricorn friends born at the end of December. “Transformation” will be your mantra, as the universe mandates you release anything not working in your life and move into your power. Detachment and a sense of humor will be great tools to navigate these waters. Don’t forget to schedule time for rest and play.....

The Cardinal Grand Cross indicates we will begin the difficult process of restructuring and changing the laws regulating our financial institutions, corporations, courts, prisons, environment, energy, health, education, military, etc. toward balance and fairness, or face the consequences and possible systems collapse. The “old guard” is fighting for its life, hiding behind its ideology with outrageous, unbelievable and unsustainable denial and outright lies. Fear mongering by those in power may increase, but it will lose its effectiveness as a tool to control the masses before long, if not this year.

The astrological weather forecast for 2010 promises to be an exciting and challenging year. Change will come, either by courageous leadership creating balance, fairness, and real compassionate conservatism, or by the masses regaining their collective power, abandoning the broken systems and recreating balance in their own lives, families, communities, nations and eventually, globally.

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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:35 PM
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13. sun in cap , moon in libra
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:56 PM
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14. I have a Cancer sun and Gemini moon
this is definitely a year of great change and transition.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 07:37 AM
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15. Yoohoo, Rick?

Without spending any time to look for it, is it easy for you to access my chart and tell me how this lays out for me?

I have no idea where I am! :rofl:

I'm going with the premise, from what I've read, that if you're an outside-the-box thinker and go with the flow, this Grand Cardinal Cross thingie can be an opportunity rather than a hindrance.

I'm going with that.......

;)

:hug:


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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:18 PM
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16. Your chart
is going thru a massive transformation in terms of SELF WORTH. You've been checking out self-worth from many angles and finally have determined that other people's opinions of you mean SQUAT.

As of this spring, as this cardinal tsquare approaches, you will have had enough. You hang too much on the cross for others. It is over now and you have every reason to really look forwward to all of this while so many "astro writers" predict doom and gloom.

Stop being so DUTY BOUND and more self-bound, you really are allowed to do so.
THe coming tsquare is not predetermined but preannounces revolution on many levels. Yours can be great or terrible as with all of us. It depends on how you use it, of course. :hi:
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:23 PM
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17. It is NOT a cross
Saturn in Libra will oppose Jupiter/Uranus in early Aries. All three will make right angles to Pluto in Capr.
So, it's a T-square to Pluto in Capricorn. Minor point, it puts much more emphasis on the Pluto.

It's all about individual and grassroot campaigns standing up to Saturn (rules, institutions) and Pluto (decaying parts of our civilization, crumbling corporations)

Don't let the fear mongers get you (Mr. Hannity)

This can be great if we own it
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:30 PM
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19. Well, now.....
You are a dear. I appreciate you! :hug:

I wrote just last night, to a friend/business associate -- with regard to interactions with people in general -- that:

"I respect others and always take their perspective and feelings into account. I value their worth. The difference now is that I equally value MY worth and have zero tolerance for lack of respect, including those who avoid communication which, to me, IS a lack of respect. I don't need to understand others any longer, and I don't need them to understand me.

But having and showing respect -- for me and for themselves -- is my personal boundary. End of story."


Right on! :thumbsup:

Thank you, Dear Sir!!! :hug:



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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:25 PM
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18. No planetary combo is a hindrance
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 12:25 PM by ricochetastroman
it's all this JUNK astro writers lay on all of us who don't know astrology. They're "powerful" because no one can argue with them. It's simply more life.... :hi:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:58 PM
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20. This makes my brain turn to mush
I don't know why I shut down when it comes to charts 'n' stuff--it just does. So I have NO idea what this means and especially not what it means to me... :P

Erm...Rick? You busy? :D
:rofl:
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:15 PM
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21. It takes a lifetime of study
I have a group I've been teaching for about 3 years now. They're getting pretty good, however, they have a ways to go. YOu have to look at hundreds of charts. It's ok though, it all starts with the pieces. Just keep reading and looking at charts.
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