Astrology and the February Primaries -- Barack Obama

[ccpup]

Looking at the three main Candidate's charts -- which I'll do in separate Posts throughout the day --, I don't see any "release", as it were, until we get to the primaries being held in DC, Maryland and Virginia on February 12. The only thing separating the Super Tuesday Primary from the February 12th Primary (with 238 delegates at stake) is a Caucus in Maine.

So, with that in mind, let's begin. First, Barack Obama.

He currently has Saturn (the taskmaster of the Zodiac) conjunct his Pluto on it's way to oppose his Natal Chiron. Add to that Transiting (or Tr.) Mars one degree from inconjunct (indicating an inherent tension between the aggression of wanting to move forward -- Mars -- being held back by the "not so fast, do your homework first" tendencies of Saturn) and sextile his Uranus -- Saturn and Uranus are inconjunct in his natal chart --, and I don't know if he's made enough head-way in the February 5th Primary States to be declared the winner. This suspicion is strengthened with Mercury Retrograde squaring his Ascendant the following day

What's also interesting is that the Tr. Moon passes his Jupiter early in the day of the Primary (indicating high spirits) but then finishes in the evening having met by opposition his Mercury -- aping his current month-long SP Moon opp Natal Mercury frustrations. As the Moon indicates the female aspects in one's chart -- or a female in general --, it may not be too much of a stretch to say that a female (the Moon) may force him (the opposition) to change what he had planned to be a "Victory Speech" at the end of the day into something more along the lines of "the fight continues" (Mercury, planet of communication).

So, on to February 10 and the Caucus in Maine.

He still has that Saturn moving over his Pluto (although no longer exact) and on the way to meet his Part of Fortune (conjunct) and Chiron (opposition), but he also has Tr. Uranus -- the planet of unpredictable, electric change -- trine his Ascendant (changing in some way how we view him although, with Uranus, one never knows how), so I anticipate him doing fairly well this day. These transits indicate that he may do well enough to perhaps win or at least inject a sense of temporary momentum into his campaign.

-- This Uranus trine Ascendant lasts until late-February, but I'll speak more about it later. --

Although the Secondary Progressed (or SP) Moon is inching ever closer to an exact opposition with his natal Mercury (5 minutes from exact), this combined with the naturally restrictive force of Saturn on his Pluto may still be inhibiting -- by forces outside himself due to the opposition -- his ability to successfully control the message eg. he's got momentum, he's surging, etc and so on.

Add to that Mercury Retrograde opposite his Natal Sun and I suspect the race is still up-in-the-air delegate-wise.

Now we come to February 12th primaries in DC, Maryland and Virginia with 238 delegates up for grabs.

Saturn still moving over his Pluto and closer to his Chiron (the planet of perpetual wounding, but which also teaches us valuable lessons through our pain), but what's different is that Tr. Mars snaps into the inconjunct with his Natal Saturn on this day! Add to that Tr. Venus conjunct his Saturn -- although a quick transit, it does indicate the need to be restrained as well as the need to reevaluate one's path -- and Tr. Jupiter inconjunct his Sun (a tension in his ability to expand -- Jupiter -- who he is -- Sun) and I don't think he achieves as much as he would have liked delegate-wise.

In addition, the SP Moon opposite his Natal Mercury is exact today indicating something outside himself forcing him to change or somehow alter his message.

We end the month with Primaries in Hawaii, Washington and Wisconsin on the 19th with 218 delegates at stake.

Restrictive Saturn has now moved away from Pluto and is conjunct his Part of Fortune and in opposition to his Chiron. And although Tr. Mars has moved away from the inconjunct with his Saturn and the sextile with his Uranus, it now moves within one degree of both squaring his SP Sun and inconjunct his SP Jupiter. The tension surrounding his efforts (Mars) to move forward (Jupiter and Sun) is clear in the days that follow.

He does have a personal New Moon, though, with Tr. Moon conjunct his Sun as well as his SA (Solar Arc) Venus (though inconjunct his SA Jupiter) early in the day and Tr. Jupiter is no longer inconjunct his Sun, so he's not out of the game yet.

He does have Tr. Chiron -- which I'm now beginning to track and watch -- snapping into a square with his Ascendant the next day. Hmmmmmm ...

On to the March Primaries!

[stellanoir]

1. You are totally cracking me up.

For some weird reason, I still can't even bring myself to look at his chart or those of the other candidates.

But wow.

The energy around that endorsement today was INTENSE !!!

Your analysis is really truly impressive.

Keep it up.

ps What happened with the locking of your thread last week? Couldn't figure it out.

pps still owe you an e-mail.

:hi:

[ccpup]

2. thanks for the words of encouragement, Stella

Readying myself for a pore-tightening egg-on-face facial, I'm sure. :evilgrin:

[stellanoir]

3. An egg-on-face facial may just make your pallor even more lovely

than green clay perhaps.

I used to scare my kid and his buddies with that routine.

Actually they pretended to be scared but mostly made wicked fun of me.

[mother earth]

4. Thanks, ccpup. The stakes are high, but if there is no real nom.

until then, I see this as a plus for the party. This means there will have to be a strong platform and that is welcomed to those of us supporting John Edwards and the issues he stands for.

Dean said this was most likely to happen.

I love to read all of the posts on these influences.

Thank you, ccpup, Stella, Shallah, and all of those here who post on these upcoming astro influences. I'm even learning a little bit along the way, who knew? It will be an interesting year.

[ccpup]

5. so, so happy to hear you're picking up on things here and there

That's how I learned, you know. Reading astrology forums and articles, following -- out of curiosity more than anything else -- the transits and how they affected (or didn't affect) someone. What I'm posting these days is my first public attempt to "predict" what might happen, so I'm more than prepared to be proven wrong.

(My Leo Ascendant just broke into a primal scream of defiance and my Aries Sun stuck his tongue out at me when I wrote that :evilgrin:)

So, together we'll all watch to see how the Primaries take shape and how the astrology is reflected in each candidate's chart. I consider it more a learning exercise than anything else.

Thank you for enjoying it, mother earth.

[ccpup]

6. it just got more interesting

I failed to notice -- in the haze and maze of transits and progressions -- that a Solar Eclipse at 17 Aquarius is happening on February 6th, the day after Super Tuesday.

As this Eclipse happens (along with Tr. Mercury RX) in an exact square with Barack's Ascendant, it lends itself to my suspicion that he may not do as well as he hopes to delegate-wise. But Eclipses are tricky things, so one really knows how -- if at all! -- it will effect a person's chart.

Just felt it important to add this new info. :hi:

[katty]

7. yep, the Sat on Pluto very tough--restriction

[ccpup]

10. this Saturn not only conjuncts his Natal Pluto

it also in it's retrograde phase (the phase it's in now) hits his Chiron in February, SP Chiron and SP Moon (which contributed mightily to his Iowa Win when it was conjunct his Natal Jupiter and trine his Natal Moon) in March and begins a station one degree square from his Moon in mid-April for six weeks before turning direct, hitting all those points again and finishing off with a conjunction with his SP Pluto -- currently two degrees from his Natal Pluto.

That's a lot of restrictive Saturn in hard aspect to have during a Primary Season and Presidential Run.

[katty]

11. what a ride, I believe Barack is the only candidate with

Pluto in Virgo. I would have plenty of security around me with Sat/Pluto aspects.
have to check - Neptune in Aquarius opposing Hillary's natal Sat/Pluto in Leo-perhaps not by degree...and a trine from Uranus in Pisces to her natal moon.

[ccpup]

12. Hillary's Pluto is conjunct her Mars with Saturn 6 degrees away

And this Pluto/Mars is 12 minutes from a waxing trine from her SP Jupiter (beginning the actual aspect the month before Inauguration, I believe)

Some astrologers have obsessed (much to the exclusion of other stronger aspects) about Tr. Neptune now sitting opposite her Saturn and point to this as a sure sign of disappointment, disillusionment, fantasies destroyed, etc and so on.

But Neptune also rules Mass Media and "spin". So is it possible that this Neptune opposite her Saturn (as well as square her Mercury and Ascendant) is more an indication of the Media giving her a harder time than they do Barack?

I'm sure we'll discover more as February goes by and one can see the effects (or not) of this Neptune opp Saturn, but I'm beginning to suspect it's less disillusionment and more the MSM, in a way, denying her authoritative position in the race (Neptune opp Saturn) and making it difficult with their "spin" for her to accurately communicate her message (Neptune square Mercury) about who she is and what she wants to do (Neptune square Ascendant).

During the time preceding the NH Primary -- when they were ripping her to shreds in the Press --, she had this Neptune squaring her SP MC and her SP Chiron. It's not a stretch to say her career and fame in the World (her MC) felt wounded (Chiron) by the efforts of this square from Neptune (the Press).

If she had difficult Saturn aspects hitting sensitive spots -- like Barack does --, her doing poorly in the race through Feb and March would make more sense. But she doesn't, so that Neptune opp and square will have to manifest somehow.

[katty]

15. great Hill/Neptune aspect assessment, re: media spin

hype, etc-yes, and Chiron MC-wounded, her Moon in Pisces is very sensitive even though she pulls off the strength of her Scorpio Sun very well. I think Nep opp her Saturn will actually deepen her spiritually-it will work to dissolve some of her Leo planets/fixed sign rigidity-more empathy emerging from her work.

[ccpup]

16. okay, so what effect would a Tr. Saturn have opp a SA Saturn?

This one is stumping me as that's what Barack has on Inauguration Day, as well as Tr. Chiron opp MC with Tr. Venus/Tr. Uranus inconjunct MC and SA Venus inconjunct SP Jupiter.

An astrologer I know -- who's a strong Obama Supporter -- is trying to convince me that that's all good, but I don't see how it knocks Hillary's SP Sun trine MC, SA Jupiter = Natal Sun and conjunct SP Venus and SP Jupiter trine her Mars/Pluto all on Inauguration Day. Add to that her SP Moon is waxing toward a SP Full Moon with her SP Sun and ... I don't know.

Do oppositions and inconjuncts from "difficult" planets trump trines and conjunctions and SA and SP activity to one's Natal Sun and MC?

[katty]

17. well, that is a stumper...I always experience inconjuncts

as somewhat (great/lesser degree) disruptive and of course, tense (contraction) - with Tr. Chiron opp MC (Obama) and a Tr. Venus/Tr. Uranus inconjunct his MC, SA Venus and SP Jupiter--it is kind of like the train is moving along great and then there is this 'huge block on the tracks' (perhaps blindsided-abruptly? (Uranus). Inconjuncts are ogften so hard (for me anyway) to pin down as to their 'effect', but if the MC is involved, clearly, one's 'career' is at issue (Inaugural). Clinton's SP Sun trine MC is quite good-hard to put a damper on that one. However, I think Obama is delivering the revolutionary spirit to America, his Leo Sun, near Uranus in Leo, NN in Leo-a real visionary and Leo of substance (not a weak, fluffy Leo character and the Pluto in Virgo is a plus).

[okasha]

8. Hey, ccpup--

anything going on in Obama's twelfth house? I think we're seeing his self-undoing set in.

[ccpup]

9. nothing in the 12th House per se

But Tr. Pluto is squeezing tighter and tighter to an opposition with Natal Venus, the ruler of his 12th House (beginning the journey to the degree officially in March).

What you're seeing now is more, I think, the retrograde Tr. Saturn meeting his Pluto (as of tomorrow, January 31st) which, with Scorpio Rising, is his Chart Ruler. The last time those two met, Barack was embroiled in the Donnie McGlurkin fiasco and was answering tough questions about missed votes.

With this Saturn transit now and then the immediate opposition to his Natal Chiron, it may not be a necessarily successful Super Tuesday he's hoping for. Saturn then goes to both inconjunct (or quincunx) his SP Moon and oppose his SP Chiron -- something I discovered looking at his chart yesterday -- at the same time (immediately after the March Primaries). So, with that in play, I have a hard time seeing how he's feeling happy or celebratory. Especially with the added energy of Tr. Pluto working that Venus by opposition by then.

[okasha]

13. ccpup, would it be possible for you to post the charts?

I'm a lot better at following the discussion if I can actually see what's going on.

Thanks, and no huhu if you can't. You're doing a great job.

[ccpup]

14. oh man

I don't even know where I'd begin to figure out how to do that. I will, though, -- if it's any help -- post the birth information I'm using for each candidate when I put a new Post up about them. :hi:

[katty]

18. do you have an astro site of your own we can check? thx:)

[ccpup]

19. you mean like an astro-blog of my own?

nope, I'm just doing the astrology on the candidate's for the h*ll of it. I will continue Posting my astrological thoughts as the Primaries progress and I see how each planet, transit, Secondary Progression and Solar Arc is being affected.

February doesn't clear much up delegate-wise, but March -- and April 22nd -- may be a totally different story altogether!

But let's see how "right" I am about February before I start even thinking of Posting on March. :evilgrin:

[katty]

20. yeah, well that's fine, I will keep checking!

[ccpup]

21. just kicking this

to get it up for Woozy Tuesday

[Dover]

22. Non-astrology question about the primaries

I haven't been paying attention to the primaries and so I missed the whole delegate stripping incident with Florida and Michigan. Was that strategy or punishment?

I know that those two states purportedly moved their primaries to better position themselves to influence the outcome, but is that the real story? Or was the whole thing contrived? I just don't understand....

I wonder how Michigan and Florida were leaning prior to this stripping of delegates?

[PinkTiger]

23. I read somewhere that this has happened before but

they got their delegates back at the convention somehow. I think pundits expect that to happen here, too. So the delegates may count.

[ccpup]

24. it was punishment from the DNC for moving their Primaries

ahead of what they had originally agreed upon. The DNC wanted the "smaller States" to have a say before the "bigger States" got to vote on Super Tuesday. When Florida and Michigan decided that wasn't good enough and moved their Primaries up, Dean had a fit and stripped them of their delegates.

In any case, I imagine -- with the importance of BOTH Florida and Michigan in the General Election and the need for the Democrats to work together on a State-by-State level -- that the delegates will eventually be awarded.

[stellanoir]

25. All the Dems made a pledge to skip Michigan and Florida because of some

procedural issues for moving their primaries forward to which they did not adhere.

Then Hillary went ahead and did an appearance in Florida and advertised in Michigan anyhow.

She won both of those states though it had been well established those delegates would not be seated at the convention. However after her wins she appealed to the party to seat them anyway.

Katrina Vanden Hueval (sp?) who I really like, was talking with the Young Turks last night about this whole issue and how with such a close election, those delegates could become a HUGE point of contention. The Young Turks had interviewed Howard Dean earlier and he said he was going to stay out of the matter and let those states work it out with the other party leaders and that there was a possibility that it may not be resolved until AFTER the convention.

Others are saying that the super delegates may decide who the nominee is and that seems screwy too.