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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:12 PM
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Requesting some healing light and some suggestions
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 10:41 PM by Hope2006
I am having all my remaining teeth removed next week, and, I will be fitted with immediate dentures at that time. It was quite a shock to hear that even the upper crowns I have will need to be removed.

I have done a lot of research since the news (even joined a group of denture-wearers), so, I know pretty much what to expect. Specifically, the dentures will be uncomfortable for a while, and, I will have trouble eating and speaking.

I have quite a fear of dentists, and, even though I have had teeth pulled before and was able to handle it with just novocaine, I am feeling very nervous about the upcoming procedure.

I have looked into some homeopathic remedies for healing (arnica seems to be recommended as something to take before and after the procedure), as well as some for helping me to be calm. I am hoping that some here might be able to recommend something for the latter, as, what I have found I have never heard of.

I also would so appreciate any healing light that could be sent my way next week (the procedure is on the 20th).

Thank you!

On edit, I wanted to add that I am definitely looking forward to having a "nice smile" again. I haven't had one for a while, and, one of the benefits of dentures is that you get to pick the color! I am trying very hard to be positive about this experience.

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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:18 PM
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1.  I will definitely send you healing light next week, Hope.
If you give the exact time, I'll put it on my calendar at work and send it throughout that day.

I don't know if Rescue Remedy would help you to be calm. Many people here have recommended it for various things, but I haven't tried it myself, and I'm not sure about how effective it would be in a situation like this. However, it's something to consider.

I'm visualizing you totally happy and pain free! :)

:hug:

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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:35 PM
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4. It is at 2:00 ET
I had forgotten about Rescue Remedy. Excellent suggestion, Dream. I think I will go to my health food store tomorrow and buy it. It can't hurt to take it for a few days before the procedure so that I can sleep.

Thank you for the suggestion, and, thank you for your wonderful healing light.



:loveya: :hug:
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:20 PM
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2. I will also hold you in the light...
... on that day specifically and for a while after. I know it can't be a fun experience but a month from now it will all be over and you will be well on your way to healing.

Hugs and loves,
Lisa
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:31 PM
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3. Lisa, thank you so very much
Thank you!

:hug:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:03 PM
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5. Definitely Rescue Remedy,
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 11:04 PM by votesomemore
as mentioned. I've seen best results when using RR by adding drops to water, although there have been many times I've used it straight. And Arnica. For local pain, clove oil is very effective. I found it worked better than the pain pills. Ice for swelling. They'll tell you all this. Your doctor should be open to giving you something stronger to relax if you need it. Be sure to take an afgan or something if it's cold in the office.

There might be a grieving process to this as well. I haven't gone through anything that drastic, but I've had to grieve other body function losses and parts..whatever. I did have a friend in another city who had the procedure, and she loved it! She was very happy with the results. I'm glad you have the support group. That has to help a lot.

I'll be holding you in my heart.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:54 AM
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8. Votes...thank you!
You have some great advice. I have heard clove oil mentioned as being better than Anbesol...your recommendation has convinced me. And, the Rescue Remedy is a definite!

The grieving part is something I wondered about. I do know that the initial news of losing my upper teeth was very traumatic for me. I went out the next day with my daughter Kim, and, I was a wreck with her driving -- jumping and trying to hit the 'brake' on the passenger side -- something I never do when I drive with her as I think she is a good driver. So, I suspect you are very right that I will have some grieving to do.

Thank you very much for your support, Votes! Bless you!



:loveya:
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:08 PM
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6. The 20th at 2 PM ET
I will mark it on my calendar too. I hope this resolves all of your pain and that you will love your new smile.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:55 AM
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9. Thank you so much!
I feel so blessed to be in a group of such wonderful people!

:hug:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:25 AM
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7. Vitamin C is very good for healing, Rescue Remedy for nerves & shock
When I had my impacted wisdom teeth out they warned me it would take at least a month for my gums to heal and to swish with salt water. I had some chewable vitamin C I would let melt in my mouth and I would swish gently with that before swallowing. It did sting but I could feel my gums firming up as I did it. When I went in for my two week check up the dr. and his assistant could not believe my gums had healed so fast.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:59 AM
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10. I had not thought about the vitamin C, Shallah
Thank you for this suggestion. I am definitely going to get some chewable C for the aftermath. I have been taking a lot of C to get over a cold, and, I will also continue to do so until the surgery.

:hug:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:21 AM
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20. I hope it assists you as much as it did me!
It did not take an entire tablet melting to help so check to see what amount suits you best. You know your body better than anyone else after all :)
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:29 PM
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11. You've got it dear.
May you glide gracefully through this procedure and heal up quickly and comfortably.

:grouphug:
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 PM
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12. Thank you, Stella
This is so appreciated!

:hug:
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:59 PM
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13. I have a HUGE fear of dentists, too, and I'm sorry you're
having to go through this. Please call your dentist's office before you go in for the procedure and ask if they can give you something for anxiety. A little valium (or equivalent)never hurt anyone, and I would encourage you to ask about it. Will you have someone to go with you?

I am asking the Universe to surround you with healing energies and hope that you will recover quickly. You are doing something positive and that will make this whole event easier for you.

Peace, love and light to you, dear Hope.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:10 PM
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14. That is a good idea, Japple.
I will call them Monday and inquire. I do have a friend who offered to go with me, but, I told her I might be embarrassed to see her at that time. I am going to think about asking her to go with me anyway.

Thank you so very much for your kindness and healing light.

Peace and love to you, lovely Japple!



:hug:
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:31 PM
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15. Yes, let your friend go with you. It would probably be very
comforting to have a friend's help and you don't need to try to drive after a procedure like this. I went with a friend who was having a similar procedure, and she was too spaced-out from the novacaine to try and deal with driving and traffic. It's like trying to drive home from the eye doctor's office after having your eyes dialated, esp. if there's rain or snow.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:12 AM
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19. If you have someone to take you home after meds a good route
I know someone who is petrified of dentists. Let her teeth go to heck for years before she found one who would knock her out to even clean her teeth. Later she found a doc would you prescribe her valium for dental visits. Since this is not a regular thing you have to face it should be safe if you feel comfortable with this route. I know when the dental surgeon offered a choice of conscious or unconscious when I had my wisdom teeth out I immediately said UN!

Reiki being sent to help you whatever treatment plan you go with!
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:57 PM
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24. Definitely need to have someone drive me if I take Valium
For sure! I appreciate the Reiki, Shallah. Thank you!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:41 AM
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21. If you take something to relax,
and go through the procedure, you probably won't be too worried about her seeing you. You'll be just starting to recover and heal. My friend went with me in September when I had wisdom teeth cut out. I was so groggy, I don't remember a whole lot. I do know I wasn't worrying about how I looked! I was already swelling.

Let your friend go and make it as comfortable for yourself as possible. Sweat pants. lol ..
It's a physical ordeal. So take good care of your body/mind/spirit.

I'm sending snuggly, cozy vibes for some reason. They are just on their way!
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:00 PM
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25. How sweet, Votes!
"snuggly, cozy vibes"...these were sent in the early AM hours here in NY judging by the time of your post. I had a better night's sleep than I have had in a long time...am thinking those vibes helped! Thank you!

Am definitely leaning toward having my friend come with me.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:02 PM
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16. Sending you light and healing vibes
I have a lifetime of experience with bad teeth and dental work - and fear there is much more to come. You have my empathy.

I have found two things particularly helpful: (1) deep breathing and (2) meditating and visualizing myself in in a happy, pleasant, stress free place doing something I love.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:52 PM
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22. Thank you!
Definitely good suggestions. Am thinking I will close my eyes the entire time and visualize being at the Jersey Shore. Deep breathing is something I tend to forget to do. Thank you for the reminder!
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:48 PM
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17. I don't know how much you're wanting to spend, but you might
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 08:49 PM by Stevepol
consider getting implants. I was going to do that except the teeth I lost were molars (a wisdom tooth and the next one to it) and it would have been very problematical to implant those teeth. If the teeth you're going to lose are easily replaced with implants, I think it's a good option.

Of course, you've probably discussed that already with the dentist. I'm so grateful that I'm still able to chew w/o dentures at the moment. On the other side, I have a Maryland bridge holding a false tooth in between two others that actually rides above the gums and is held there by a metal bridge from the two teeth on either side (and it works great, feels like a real tooth).

I'm trying to keep the gums alive and vibrant by brushing every evening with Edgar Cayce's recommendation, Ipsab powder (had a dream recommending this BTW). It is a simple combination of baking soda and salt, along with a couple other things, and so far (several years now) it's kept my gums and teeth in very good shape. I think maybe the baking soda provides a kd of environment that is very negative to decay-causing bacteria. Cayce also came up with a liquid called Ipsab that he recommended be rubbed into the gums with the finger. I've tried that some too and can't say how much it helps. I hasn't hurt evidently.

Good luck. I had to have two teeth pulled out recently, an impacted wisdom tooth and a broken and carious tooth next door neighbor. I spent almost the whole summer brooding about it and when I had the operation the dentist got them both out in about 4 minutes, one after the other. I hardly felt a thing.

Good luck. You'll come thru just fine I'm sure.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:12 PM
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18. Thanks for the Cayce
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:55 PM
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23. Ipsab powder
I wonder if this powder would be the answer to keeping my gums healthy. The recommendation is to brush the entire mouth a least once daily as one would if their teeth were still there. I am going to do some research on this. I really appreciate the recommendation.

I have thought about mini implants. This can't be done until all shrinking and healing has occurred, and, it is pricey. But, this may be the way to go for the bottoms at least.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:45 PM
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26. I think the Ipsab powder has helped my guns a lot.
I brush with the powder in the evening before going to bed. It helps the gums a lot I think, but you'll have to decide for yourself.

My gums healed pretty rapidly after I had the wisdom tooth and the other tooth pulled. The Ipsab liquid I believe is helpful too, but I don't know how much it helped in addition to the powder. The powder can be obtained thru Baar and sometimes you can find a health food store or New Age place that handles it. I buy from a friend here in town. If you want to send off for it, here's a link for it:

http://www.baar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=779&Category_Code=CAY&Product_Count=67

Sometimes Cayce suggested that a person use the Ipsab liquid 2 to 3 times a week, using the finger to rub it into the gums around the teeth but also on the palate and at the base of the gums. This would take about 5 minutes and then, afterwards, to gargle with glycothymoline, a gargle mouthwash that Cayce recommended many times. It's still being produced and you can order it at any drug store if they don't carry it. It's really a rather mild gargle but it can also be used for other things. A judge I knew here in town soaked 2 folded over kleenex tissues in glyco and put them over his eyes and nose area during sinus attacks and said the problem diminished in about 20 minutes each time. I've used it for eye strain and it's good for that too. But I also gargle with glyco every morning and as indicated above after using the Ipsab liquid. Both the glyco and the liquid Ipsab are at the same site linked above tho you'll have to scroll back or forward to find them I'm sure.

Good luck with your dental challenges. I have a friend who is having implants of his bottom teeth and so far everything looks very good. It's pricey as you indicated and there are a lot of things to check before doing it, but it looks like a good idea for some people.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:58 AM
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29. Thank you for the link!
I am ordering the Ipsab powder, and, the glycothymoline mouthwash. I really appreciate your suggestions!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:16 PM
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27. Re: implants
I assume they tell you that there is a chance your body will reject the implants? That's what happened to a friend of mine. I know my body would reject them due to my experience with surgical staples, etc. I sometimes take silicia (homeopathic silica) and that would surely cause problems with them.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:26 PM
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28. I couldn't say about the body's rejection of the implants,
but my dentist said there were a lot of factors that would have to be addressed before proceeding with implants. I'm sure your dentist could clarify it for you. I partly depends on the part of the mouth involved and the density of the bone at that point, etc.

BTW, I noticed that the Ipsab liquid in the Baar product catalogue is called Ioxan gum massage rather than Ipsab, the older name. It has the same ingredients though.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:02 AM
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30. I have read about the chance of implant rejection
I haven't discussed any of this with my dentist as yet. I admit I am a little nervous at the thought of metal posts being screwed into my jawbones, and, I would not do this lightly without looking at all the risks involved. My husband had mini implants in his lower jaw, and did not have any problems with them. But, that was him, and, all of us are different.

I appreciate your insight here, Votes.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:37 PM
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31. UPDATE
I am home from the ordeal, and, while I am in some pain (lots of stitches, etc.), it really isn't that bad.

Once the novacaine wore off, I was able to see how the dentures will look. They are very nice, and, they fill out the area around my mouth and lower jaw.

I am even speaking fairly well with them already.

Thank you, all, for the healing energy. I actually felt a sense of peace at times during the procedure, and, I sent many thank you's to all of you as I knew that the energy was helping me.

Thank you, thank you!
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:39 PM
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32. So glad to here it, Hope.
I'll continue to send it throughout the remainder of the day.

:hug:

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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:10 PM
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33. Thank you, Dream!
:loveya:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:57 PM
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36. Sorry, I can't let it go. I, of course, meant "hear".
:blush:
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:50 AM
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39. Awwww....don't be embarrassed...:-)
Typos...we all make them!
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:26 PM
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35. Oh good ...
... Thank you SO much for the update, Hope. Glad to see it wasn't as hellish as it could have been. Sending you lots of love and peace and painless days. Go out and show that smile when you are feeling better!

Love and stuff,
Lisa
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:48 AM
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38. Yes, it could have definitely been more hellish
The pain was pretty bad last night, but, I found that ibuprofen worked much better than Vicodin, and, once I took some, I was able to sleep. Today, so far, it is MUCH better.

Thank you, Lisa!

:hug:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:54 PM
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43. Ooo. Sorry the pain med didn't work. Opiods don't work good on some people
You may want to mention this to your doctors so that if you ever need more pain relief than ibuprofen can provide they will know to give you something different. I read once that some people lack the receptors or something like that for the opioid and others are lacking magnesium and something else. I believe my Dad was one of those naturaly immune as things like codeine never did anything for pain and he would do better one a double dose of tylenol
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:59 PM
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40. Congratulations
Keep us up to date on your progress. :hug:
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:03 PM
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41. That's good news, Hope. It's good that Ibuprofen takes care
of the pain. Vicodin and other painkiller make me climb the walls. Asking the universe to send you soothing, healing energies in the days ahead.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:59 PM
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34. Sending late prayers.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:45 AM
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37. Thank you, Peake!
:hi: :hug:
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:42 PM
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42. Okay, now that it's over, and it went well... can we sink our teeth into some puns?
:evilgrin:

I don't want to chew the fat too long. I'm just partial to language play. It's all in good fun, as long as the jokes don't bite.

I'm glad it went well and that you have a new smile to share with the world. We're smiling back!
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