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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 02:52 PM
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I have a question about my mom.
I was wondering if anyone here can get a sense of her, of how her spirit is doing. I really can't right now, because of my grief over losing her.

The main sense I get is that she is resting, after having fought her illness so long, and so hard, but again, I know that I am grieving, so how clear my senses are right now is questionable.

I remember when Anna Nicole Smith passed away, there were people here who "saw" her quite clearly.

If anyone can "see" my mom, and let me know how she's doing, I would appreciate knowing. Her name was Loretta.

Thank you.

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 03:21 PM
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1. There are many theories about the transition.
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 03:23 PM by stellanoir
Some say that our spirits stay conscious and have an immediate celebratory experience on the other side of the veil.

I think it really varies wildly.

I remember, having a "time out" after once incarnating as a bit of a troublemaker who saw the light in later life. I found myself on a cloud floating around a distant planet and not wanting to come back here.

But oh well.

I've noticed that I've perceived that those who go through long term illnesses often need a rest for a while. Time is unquestionably different on the other side.

Due to ANS's dubious fame and how the media hammered us with her death and paternity absurdity, her image was just readily accessible so that may explain it, though she was hardly conscious in life at all.

I think your dear departed mum is enjoying a much deserved and well earned rest as well.

You are clearer than you know.

My former MIL with whom I was once close, then had a rather huge dispute, and who passed away 7 years ago has entered my consciousness more in the last several weeks than she had ever previously, since she transitioned.

So ya never know and go figure.

Be at Peace. Your mum unquestionably is.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 03:31 PM
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2. Thank you, stella.
I know she was ready to go, of that I have no doubt.

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 04:37 PM
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3. Not at the moment...
but you know, I believe in general, all the heavy identities we chose for our existence in the 3D world, does peel away and the core essence must feel great freedom and relief.

and remember Dr. Newton? She can always go and take her crystal shower. :)

In due time, I think you will connect, it's up to you -
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 05:58 PM
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4. That's what I believe, too.
:)

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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:12 PM
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5. She probably is resting now.
And then she will be debriefed and soothed, and allowed to find her own way to her next project.
She does not want you to grieve, but to be glad for her, that she is now free of Earth. You need to remember the good things and let go the bad, and celebrate her life.
This is what she wants.

She is sorry she put you through so much pain. It was not meant to be that way. But Earth has a way of distorting the message, changing the plan. It is like meaning to go on a diet, and then being confronted by a buffet dinner.


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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:39 AM
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7. Thank you, PinkTiger
I know that mom didn't want us to be in pain, but for us, the thing that mattered most was that SHE not be in pain any longer.

I love what you said about being soothed. God knows, she deserves it.

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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:27 PM
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10. My father stayed with me for a long time after he passed.
It was very hard. He felt guilty, I think, because when he was alive he was not able to really connect with us the way he wanted to. He was the "absent father" type, and worked all the time. Then, when he got ill with Parkinson's and dementia (he had the Alzheimer's type of Parkinson's) he was not Dad. After he died, he came to me and talked to me a lot. But instead of making me feel better, it made me cry. One time about a year later, I had a complete breakdown while I was driving home from a conference (long trip) and had to pull over so I could cry it out.
I was there so long, a policeman came by to see if I was OK. I was so embarrassed. Anyway, after that Dad eased off. He drifted away and is now impossible to reach, even with a medium.
I am always contacted by the dead, and I don't know why. But while they are living, I am also contacted.
I am the one who is always left to deal with these things. I have six siblings, but they all live in other states. I am the only one who still lives here. My mother moved away after Dad passed, and lived in another state for 15 years. Last year she came home and I know she did it because she knew I was here and could take care of her at the end.
It is OK. I'm used to it.
But it is interesting that I'm the one.
In 2001, my father's little brother died and I had to handle his last days in the nursing home up to the arrangements. He and my family were estranged at the time, and I was reluctant, but I was asked to deal with it by my aunt, who lived in Florida and was ill and couldn't.
The jerk (my uncle was a miscreant and had a lot of issues) grabbed hold of my life force and wouldn't go. Even after he died, he was riding along, like a tapeworm. It took me awhile to realize that he was possessing me. But he is now gone, I hope. My ex-husband got him away from me. (He died in 2006, and the two really didn't like each other. My ex took Uncle E away, and at the same time, let me know he was dead. Interestingly, he was estranged from his family when he died, so it was up to me -- and I had not seen him for 35 years -- to let them know he was gone. It's a very strange story, really.)

Away, this long litany of mine was meant to tell you that your mother should not be hanging around. If you can connect too well with her, it is partly your fault and you need to let her go. After a few days, you should do a ritual to let her go. It is best for her - and best for you.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 02:15 AM
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6. You know she may come to you in a strange way. My dad, who also had a long illness
(several months ,anyway) first sent the fragrance of flowers.I have a witness to this as well.It was several days after he passed and I went home and as I reached my front door the most amazing perfume of roses and jasmine and gardenias flooded the pathway.I opened the door and the house was completely enveloped!Another odd thing was that my cat, who had been waiting by the front door when we left , in his usual attempt to sneak out , was locked in my Dad's bedroom, which had its door locked when we left.There was no way for the cat to have gotten inside. My dad had frequently locked him in by accident. My friend had watched me lock my Dad's door upon leaving and had witnesses me shooing him away from the front door. She also smelled the fragrance on our return. It was very strange but beautiful.

Several months later , he also came to me in a dream.Oddly a dream about a telephone call.I was talking to him on the phone and he talked about all the mundane and silly things that he would have asked if he had been away.he particularly wanted to know if we were swimming in the pool yet, always a concern of his, and then he wanted me to know that I had "done the right thing when I disconnected his life support." It was amazing.I truly felt I spoke to him.I heard his voice as clear as a bell.

You will be communicated with.Give it time and be prepared for anything.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:44 AM
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8. saracat, those are wonderful encounters. Thank you for sharing them.
I have been visited many times by my dad, who died 30 years ago. One time, a friend of mine with whom I was living lost her dad. She was in a lot of pain, and that set off the pain in me, because it happened just a few years after my dad died. We were standing in the kitchen, and as we were talking and crying, I felt my dad next to me, with his arm around my shoulder, and I suddenly felt so comforted.

I know I will have those moments with my mom. As I said upthread, because of my grief, I am not really clear right now, but I do believe mom is still with me. I think right now, I just needed that confirmation.

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:19 PM
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9.  I agree that she is "resting" for the moment but she will reach out
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 01:20 PM by saracat
to you soon . She would not want you to suffer or grieve.Keep her love wrapped around you like a warm blanket.You will get through this and be at peace.Blessings and hugs, SG. It is always hard, even when we expect it.
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