I had an Obama dream!

[MorningGlow]

Zoinks, for the first time ever, I had a dream about a politician! Check out this symbolism: Obama was my landlord!

I had to rent an apartment in a pretty low-rent district and was concerned that I wasn't going to find anything good, but he had this apartment for rent that was absolutely beautiful--it had kind of a one-big-room loft layout but the bedrooms were separate. The main room had different areas for different activities, like one corner for computers and another corner as the living room, etc. It was sparkling clean and bright, but I did notice that the temperature was uneven--some areas were very warm and others were very cool. (Yeah, more symbolism...)

I rented it with three other roommates (nice number, eh?) and when I talked to Obama about what a wonderful job he'd done with the place, he said he and his father decided to renovate it as nicely as they could because even people who couldn't afford expensive apartments deserved to have a nice place to live.

I asked to see the bedrooms, and he said they were down the hall. I walked into the biggest one, which was as big as the main part of the apartment, and it had about a dozen different beds, all with big puffy mattresses and different colorful quilts and comforters but all kind of different, and my roommates and I had fun bouncing from one to the other, trying them all out, and picking the ones that were the most comfortable for each of us.

Funky! Especially because I have posted here before how my guard is up with Obama as much as with Clinton. Maybe he's starting to grow on me!
:rofl:

[stellanoir]

1. Obama's a mystic

He's campaigning through the dream world. And he GOTCHYA !!!

Fun dream.

I like the jumping on the beds part a lot.

[MorningGlow]

2. I do believe he did!

:rofl:

Hiya, Stella! :hi:

Yeah, he's been wearing me down a little bit at a time lately and has impressed me with the way he's been rising above the fray of all the recent poo-slinging. He's handling things very well, I think.

And I REALLY liked the whole "making a nice living space for people" symbolism in the dream.

[Celebration]

3. above the fray and "sticky" ancestral karma

The "above the fray" is solely due to his excellent balance energetically. It isn't perfect, but is at least in the upper 10% of people, in my experience. I've talked about this before, but I find it extremely interesting, but ultimately not surprising that the first black politician in our country to rise to this level has none of the ancestral karma of the "typical black person" (to throw his one mis-stated clause in his speech back at him).

I used to test people for ultimate causes of various emotions, behaviours, etc., and ancestral things almost invariably came up with the "sticky" stuff. Highly emotional experiences of an ancestor create frequencies that are just passed down generationally. And, some of these, at least, have to do with sex. Once I tested something for my husband, and it finally came down to his grandmother starting her period. Apparently, nobody had told her anything about menstruation, and she just all of a sudden started bleeding, without knowing what was going on. When she found out, she was extremely pissed, to the point of handing that emotion and energy down through the generations.

Now, think about people whose ancestors have been raped--they have both the ancestral karma of the person who raped, and the one who was raped. And think of this being repeated over and over again. Almost every "typical black person" has this karma with them. I would say the only appropriate way to deal with this energy, at some point in life, is anger. So, if Michelle went through an anger phase in college, well, it was probably necessary for her.

Anyway, I have my own issues, because at least one fourth of my geneology includes slave owners. I loved them, but this ain't pretty to deal with it.

Obama just does not have that ancestral karma, and because of it he is able to see the bigger picture. So, if a preacher he loves goes off on a tirade, he sees it in the broader context.

In any case, it is really helpful in a campaign to be in great balance, because campaigns are really, really stressful, and any energetic imbalances tend to be magnified greatly in those circumstances. I was wondering how that would play out in the campaigns, and I think we are seeing that. That is not to say that I am psychic in any way. I'm not. I have no idea who will win, but I think I see differences in the campaigns that reflect the energetic balance of the contenders.

McCain has an anger problem, of course. We'll have to see if he can keep that under wraps or not during a stressful campaign. Rudy was much more of a mess energetically than McCain, so I am not surprised that he imploded.

I have never dreamed about a candidate either. I dream about my family, but hardly any other "real life" people. I do think that this dream reflects your changing perception.

[Blue_Roses]

4. this is very interesting.

I have to wonder myself about the ancestral karma in my family. Being born and raised in the south--as a "typical white person"--I have a very protective nature to those who are hurt anyway, but especially the black culture. One of my best friends is black (based my script on her life) and she has helped me to understand the culture as something that draws the differences that are so often misunderstood.

As a social worker, I've worked with many other black social workers who were awesome. I've always felt like we were on the same "playing field" and ironically, it wasn't until I started researching for my script that I became obsessed with the plight of the black history. It was like an awakening. Seriously. I was never taught black history in school--guess it was because integration started when I as in the 7th grade. I remember my mother and dad being upset that those "N--- as they put it," were being bused into my middle school. I didn't understand the big deal. I also remember an old black man named "Charlie," who worked washing cars for my dad's car lot. I remember one time my dad got so mad at him for defecating behind the building because he didn't want to ask to come inside to use the restroom. :cry: I was in college and when I buzzed in for the weekend, I always stopped by my daddy's car dealership first. I made friends with "Charlie," and I remember my dad saying, "that Charlie sure likes you." I was just a young teen, but this old, crippled man pierced my heart with his kindness.

My grandmother was from Mississippi and her parents were Cherokee Indian. Just a weird genealogy pool. I would love to explore this more.

[Celebration]

16. growing up in the south

That was something, wasn't it? In my backyard there was a house called "George's House." Someone named George used to live in it, and he was the caretaker for the property next door. We used it for storage, because George had passed on by the time I was five years old or so. It was a one room shack with a bathroom and sink. No, it wasn't there in slave days, but his lifestyle was essentially that of a slave, even though he was technically free.

In the eighties I worked for a property manager who bought an apartment building in Atlanta. It came with a black person that lived in the basement! He had no social security number and he had no birth certificate. He got paid a nominal amount "off the books" but mainly he just had a place to live. For my boss not to continue this arrangement would have meant turning him out onto the streets, and that would have been cruel.

My elementary school in the 50s was technically integrated, but very few of the blacks could handle it socially and chose to go to an all black school. No wonder--the PE teacher was an overt racist, and a lot of the teachers seemed to me to be racist in a not so subtle way. I could go on and on about that.

I kind of really, really love black people, even angry ones. But, as a typical white person, I am also a little bit like Obama's white grandmother at the same time. There wasn't any overt racism in my household growing up, but let's just say that my parents weren't buying into the civil rights movement in the 60s.

[MorningGlow]

8. Wow, what a fascinating subject, IJM

I always tend to think of people as individual souls born of the Great Is, carrying all the good elements and bad elements of other souls incarnated "before" them, yet I never consider the karma of ancestors in the family the soul chooses to be born into. You make a very very good point here. How can I learn more about it?

[Celebration]

14. I don't know!

I actually don't know much about it myself. I was introduced to the concept of ancestral karma by the NAET practitioner, and the rest I just learned by using the pendulum on myself and my family. I wish I knew more about it, too! But when I combine what I have learned about ancestral karma with the David Hawkins hierarchy of emotions, and add to that growing up in the south in the early sixties, it puts the anger of Rev. Wright in an understandable context. Obama has the distinct advantage of not having had to work through all of that.

[stellanoir]

7. And the fact that the imagery suggested that he did the renovations with his long lost father

who he never really knew is very cool especially in terms of what they're talking about down thread about ancestral karma.

Being from the NE I thought, well there is all sorts of Native/WASP karma around here but not a whole lot of slave karma.

But then I remembered a funny story.

Well over a decade ago, I had to read at a Historical house near Brown University called the "Alexander Brown House." At least I think that is the name.

It's a building that was probably constructed during the "Guilded Age."

So I walk in and my first two readings were two descendants of the original Browns who were MAJOR slave traders.

This was a brother and sister duo who were both in their 80's.

The lady was smoking inside long after indoor smoking bans had been passed. So there were no ash trays and the ashes were falling on the bare wooden floors. Her brother admonished her for smoking saying, "You'll burn the whole place down." She shot back at him, "I've been trying to burn this place down for well over 60 years. It's not going to happen."

Ancestral karma can be really curious. They were a riot though.

[MorningGlow]

9. Yeah, I thought the "father" mention was curious

Considering his father wasn't as major a player in his life as other members of his family. I almost left it out of my post, but remembered it at the last minute. Maybe he and his father have a soul contract and they have worked together more closely in other lives.

FUNNY about the descendants of slave traders! I can just picture that old woman griping about that building.
:rofl:

[Celebration]

17. and this crap still goes on

Off and on there is a major controversy here about one Nathan Bedford Forrest. He was beloved by people who worship the southern culture as he was a hero of the War Between the States (as my grandmother called it). But, he was a SLAVE TRADER. And there is at statue of him downtown in the park by the medical school. He is buried there. The whole thing comes up periodically as a BIG ISSUE. Oh, everything in Memphis is racial. Can you tell? It gets old.

So, my daughter has a Japanese boyfriend that visited here. I took him to the little place that may have been on the underground railroad, and they had lots of really, really negative information about Nathan Bedford Forrest. I would say that 25% of the information there was about Nathan Bedford Forrest being a slave trader, and how awful he was.

Then, we went to the Tennessee River. Guess what beautiful state park is there, the highest peak in west Tennessee?-- Nathan Bedford Forrest State Park. So we took him there, and all he heard there was that NBF really, really, looked after all the black people (while at the same time selling them and trading them) and especially the black children (while feeding them to make sure that they actually lived). Honestly it was kind of funny, because the Japanese guy had barely heard of the Civil War.

It is not over. People say, it was over one hundred years ago, it should be over. It is not over. It is ancestral karma and it is not over. Look at Muslim vs. Christian and look at that karma. That is not over either. So, one hundred years, in the scheme of things, is nothing.

[stellanoir]

19. She was precious

[Blue_Roses]

5. interesting dream

:) I think I need to get back in this forum more and stay out of GD-P

I've been having too many nightmares lately. The conflict is addictive yet destructive.

[MorningGlow]

10. You are far braver than I

I only dip my toe into GDP once in a while. The energy in there is just horrendous lately. Makes me sad to see DU Dems, of all people, so divided and so nasty. :(

[stellanoir]

12. Yeah but R & T is lightening up believe it or not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=214&topic_id=167296

Anything for levity these days I figure.

[MorningGlow]

13. ROFL!

Good to know!

[SeattleGirl]

6. Your comment about being guarded about Obama reminded

me of part of a column on Huffington Post by Steven Weber, wherein he was talking about Obama and the guarded and/or negative response to him by some:

"You can even feel the beginnings of respect germinating in places formerly barren from decades of retrograde rhetoric spewed from fear mongering demagogues whose sole reason for being seems to be the deterrence of hope, the halting of action, the deriding of dreams. Obama is an incongruity, wished for but rarely seen, compelling but distrusted by the senses. Real inspiration has been dead for so long on the American scene that half-assed darlings and penny-ante celebrities with the density of meringue have been to hoisted to heroic levels only to be subsequently proven inadequate to the charge, so desperate is America's need for a truly viable, truly courageous and truly substantial leader."

After nearly 8 years of the Bush Cabal, it's no wonder that so many people may look with jaundiced eye at Obama. We've had our hopes and dreams shaken out of us, or at least, we've buried them in an effort to protect them from permanent damage. Sad, but true, I think.

Anyway, I love your dream, and can just picture you and your roommates jumping from bed to bed. What fun! :)

[MorningGlow]

11. OoooOOOOoohhh I have been loving me some Steven Weber lately!

I do like sex-ay actors who also turn out to be rabid liberals, brilliant thinkers, AND talented writers! :loveya:

ANYway. Ahem. Yes, I think being jaded from so many years of "business as usual" affected me. I also was picking up something in Obama's nature that seemed cold and calculating, and it bothered me. I interpreted it as being already bought and paid for by the political machine/shadow government, and he was just telling us what we wanted to hear at this point in time ("change", "hope", and all the rest) but didn't really believe it himself. But it's dawning on me that perhaps what I was "seeing" was a very thick, very strong shield that's getting him through the election process easier than if he were totally "out there", his spirit wide open, as Edwards tended to be.

I always said I was willing to be proven wrong, so if this message in my dream is valid, and I can continue to get reassurances that he can be trusted, I'll welcome them, and gladly.

[SeattleGirl]

15. I love reading Weber's stuff.

I don't always agree 100% with everything he says, but then, I tend not to march in lockstep. :)

When Edwards dropped our (or rather, suspended his campaign), I was really bummed. I had to start looking at Clinton and Obama, so I went to their websites to look at their stands on things, and started paying more attention to their speeches. I found myself drawn more to Obama. I felt more inspired by him (though initially, I was skeptical too).

The more I see him, though, and the more I hear from him, the more I like him.

I wrote this piece in GD-P the other day, about why I'm drawn to him.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/SeattleGirl/356

And of course, I had my scoffers, but that's fine. I was just expressing my opinion.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

18. I do hope our "house"

is cleaned up and made nice for everyone!