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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 01:10 AM
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A Unity Ticket? We can make it so!
Seeing ccpup's posting on the Unity ticket made me think of something.

All of us on this board are very powerful. We could actually make a Unity ticket happen.

I know that most of us prefer one of the candidates over the other, but I assume that we all want a Democrat to win. But I heard an alarming poll result on the Rachel Maddow show today. She said that 28% of Hillary supporters and 19% of Obama supporters would not support the other candidate in the general election. This means we could be looking at electing McCain with his war agenda!

I think if we all put our collective energy together on this board, we could make a Unity ticket happen. This would go a long way toward our goal of putting a Democrat in the White House.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:56 AM
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1. We would need to make it an extremely neutral
collective focus. Bringing the primary in here in the past month or so has made it uncomfortable for some.

But I am all for this. We need some positive energy in this selection for our next president.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 09:19 AM
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2. Not a chance. My Energies are directed in a different direction.
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 09:37 AM by votesomemore
I really resent this post. Hillary and her supporter's selfishness respects NO BOUNDARIES.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 09:52 AM
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3. Sigh. I really wonder if maybe this all isn't a sort of clearing/cleaning for the Dem party.
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 09:54 AM by davsand
I have begun to wonder a lot lately if maybe this entire Primary "fight" is more about the Dem party cleaning house. Seems like there has always been a fair amount of fighting and maneuvering in the party and maybe this is about us all sorting it out and defining who and what we are collectively rather than as individuals. Maybe it really IS all about what is best for the party and not the individuals, and maybe it is time we (as a party) get down to it.

I don't think I want to get in the middle of that, and I don't think I especially CARE too much about the ones who feel it is all about THEM rather than the common good. I want to work for sanity and the good of us all rather than advancing any specific agenda.

Think of it like lancing a boil or cutting out a tumor...



Laura
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:36 AM
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4. I'm thinking we need to focus
on the greatest good for our nation and the world. I know that is really general and not as specific as you perhaps would wish, but to my mind it puts our energy behind that of the Universe.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:54 AM
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5. Ummmm
I'm more interested in unity than in a unity ticket. I'm not convinced that a unity ticket will bring party unity. I'd just as soon scrap both the remaining candidates and see a different candidate nominated to unite the party if that is what is required. Looking long-term the stability of the party is more important than the self seeking desires of its candidates and members.
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:01 PM
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6. Well, it seems as if posting in this forum is just as dangerous
as posting in GDP. You resent my post? Why? It wasn't promoting either candidate at the top. At this point, I don't think it matters which candidate is at the top. My point is that if there is not a unity ticket, we are going to lose votes and lose big.

I thought we were all Democrats, after all. I still think the unity ticket is the way to go, but it seems there are too many here with a different agenda.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:30 PM
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8. You are posting GDP material here so why are you surprised
that it is "just as dangerous"? It's the SAME MATERIAL. Does it mean one thing in that forum and a different thing in this forum?

I don't agree with a *unity ticket* and really don't care to discuss it here. I visit GDP for that discussion. You asked OUR GROUP for LIGHT for an outcome that YOU want in a matter that doesn't just affect you, it affects everyone. You want me to pray that you get your way no matter what. I won't do it. I resent the request. You might as well as me to pray that you can get away with bank robbery.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:44 PM
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9. vsm, I understand that Bluestar supports Hillary and would probably...
prefer that she head the unity ticket that she's hoping will become reality, but I don't see her stating this as being part of the thing that she's proposing that we do as a group in her opening post. I suspect that many (most?) people who support Barack would also hope for him to be the presidential nominee.

I appreciate Bluestar's reminder that we are not without power, so I will be doing my part as well. However, I agree with someone else in this thread who said that he/she will be sending light to whatever is for the highest good, and, therefore, I will be making that my focus.

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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:19 PM
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10. Agree with you here, Dream
I do understand that the political threads we have had here in ASAH over the past few months have made some of us uncomfortable (I am included in this, although I have chosen to accept that all of us are different).

But, the point about "sending light to whatever is for the highest good" resonates greatly with me. I don't know what is best for the US at this time. I can only ask that whatever it may be, that it be the outcome of the upcoming election.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:44 PM
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11. "We could actually make a Unity ticket happen. "
Is what her OP states. I assume that is what she was asking for.

If Hillary Clinton is any where on the ticket, I will never vote for another Democrat again for as long as I live. That is an oath.

No need to point out the harshness. That's a lot of why this is so upsetting for me.
I have always been an Independent who votes Democratic MOST of the time.
If the Democrats believe they can win without Independents, then they are welcome to try. We are INDEPENDENT for a very good reason. We don't like to be played.

I have no doubt that the Universe will turn out just as it shall.


{Dream} I have felt a bit foolish posting in these threads because you and I have had the discussion about keeping politics out of ASAH, and my opinion was that politics would be fine in ASAH. Now, it really feels like I was wrong about that. You were right.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:21 PM
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7. The only real options
Dems have to win in November are to have either a unity ticket or a brokered convention with a third candidate nominee IMHO. Last I checked the polls showed something like nearly 30% of Hillary supporters would not vote for Obama and nearly 20% of Obama supporters would not vote for Hillary. That is the making of an a$$ kicking with Dems on the losing end. I don't like either of the remaining candidates and I do not believe that either can win without the other on the ticket. Even then I'm not so sure.

If Dems get beat in November it will be because of their own undoing. Following this primary season is something like watching a violent and deadly accident as it happens. Everything seems to move in slow motion. Fascinating and horrifying at the same time. And a lot of people are gonna get hurt. Hillary and Obama supporters are so personally invested in the outcome that they have ignored the warning signs. Nothing like watching a good old fashioned fight on the train tracks with a train quickly approaching and the fighters completely ignorant of its presence.

Yeah, we need to come together for party unity.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 11:08 AM
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12. For me,
a unity ticket would not include either Clinton or Obama. I could lend energy to that effort.

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