Secrets Revealed Tracking Thread

[NJCher]

Do you remember when that software program that predicts anxiety levels came out and said something was going to happen that would cause the U.S. (and maybe the world) to be in a highly agitated state? This was back in mid-October, if I remember correctly. Might have been Oct. 12th or around that time.

Then it seemed like nothing happened but many of us thought that perhaps something did happen but the results would not be immediately apparent. One such event was that the Russian government somehow came into some CIA files. If I recall correctly, there were a lot of these files. People speculated that perhaps the ugly secrets of the U.S. government would be leaked over the time period predicted by the robot prediction software.

Others said that the agitated state would be the U.S. economy falling apart. If you thought that, then you were probably right, at least on one count.

But I remained very curious about the Russians and the CIA file situation and in the past week, I've noticed these two stories:

CIA shooting down civilian planes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3642512

U.S. participation in mass killings in South Korea:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3634258

I thought I'd start this thread so we could possibly keep track of the stories. Maybe we will see a pattern.

On the other hand, maybe these will be the only two stories of this kind. We'll see.

Also, if anyone can fill in some blanks with the robot software and date when this happened a little more accurately, it would be much appreciated. It's a bit early for me and my brain is only working in patches.




Cher

[Why Syzygy]

1. Ref.

These are two threads about the web bot project:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x77163#77195

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x76115

And more specifically:
http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm

[NJCher]

2. I knew there was somebody more on the ball than I!

Thanks, Votes!!

Please, if you spot stories that fit into this category, post 'em here, everyone.



Cher

[Why Syzygy]

3. Here's a youtube series

covering the predictions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdef1yNz2ms&feature=PlayList&p=DC6639220D5A8114&index=0&playnext=1

[SheilaT]

4. I noticed how quickly the threads

disappeared when nothing whatsoever of significance happened on that date, October 7.

One of the posts in one of the discussion threads pointed out that these guys had basically been fear-mongering for years, and constantly predicting a huge market meltdown and general catastrophe.

While our economy certainly is in bad shape right now, I always think that the most dire predictions of total disaster are vastly overblown.

[Why Syzygy]

5. I'm listening to the

youtubes. I think "Cliff" outed himself as Jeff Rense? I'll have to go back to the beginning to catch that again.

The "military" aspect they pick up could point to the agency. It would be pretty catastrophic to our way of life if the time of unveiling for the CIA is upon us. They basically are the private army for the elites.

I agree with Shelia in that I don't think the economy is going to tank the way most are speculating.
We are a resourceful people. We might have to shake off the false government, but we can survive quite nicely.

edit: Now on tape 8 .. someone has got hold of some information and have been hiding for fear of their life. They will come forward to the media over the winter. Cliff said, they don't know exactly what it is or where it came from, "found it in the desert", or whatever!

[Why Syzygy]

6. Cher ..

I'm not sure if you intend to keep this about the CIA releases? If we want to discuss the predictions, there's more.

"Cliff" is not Jeff Rense. He said he was outed BY Rense. There's a youtube interview with the two Bot guys and Rense:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvYCrGF1F4k

In this one, they mention Naomi Wolf having a special place in Current Events. This isn't the Future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI&NR=1
Interview with Naomi Wolf author of "Give Me Liberty: A Handbook for American Revolutionaries" given October 4, 2008 on Mind Over Matters, KEXP 90.3 FM Seattle.

Watch the talk by Naomi Wolf on "The End of America" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

This is an interview with her on the morning of October 4, 2008. In it she states that we are in an EMERGENCY situation as of that morning. Something happened that triggered what she believes is a chain of events leading to the suspension of Constitutional rule in our nation. That is the aim of the "bad guys", you know. As long as the Constitution stands, they cannot touch us unto captivity. The bot guys and the C2C host agree that the US is un garisonable. There is no way to lock us down. Naomi DOES encourage us to ACTION.

It's very interesting stuff. It will rock your world in refs your UFO studies though.

[Independent_Liberal]

7. Very interesting indeed, votes.

I've been sensing some major infighting happening amongst the US power structure and corporate elite. There's these different groups with their own agendas trying to get control of the government in one way or another. There's these crazy extremists and the more rational, reasonably thinking folks that are going at it. The power structure is trying to save itself while at the same time fighting this nutty, corporatist oligarchy. Some people call it the "shadow government." There's those of us who have believed Bush and Cheney were never really the ones in charge to begin with. I sense there's a group that took a big hit financially when the economic shit started hitting the fan and they're really pissed and feel betrayed. There are these groups with investments in contracting businesses that are under federal investigation and they're trying to throw certain folks under the bus to protect themselves. Whatever is going on, it's definitely a coup against the system. I think the Blagojevich investigation is more than what we're being led on to believe. There's something about to emerge that will help the media and public put a big puzzle together. A lot of this combined with the economic meltdown could cause a rebellion in the US power elite. One guy who writes political blogs on the economic situation even predicted that things may get so chaotic, Bush and his crew may be removed from the scene before his term office expires, perhaps taking him out the way he came in, by "means unconventional." I believe the possibilities are endless.

[NJCher]

8. now you've really got me going!

It's very interesting stuff. It will rock your world in refs your UFO studies though.

I can hardly wait to read this. Today I'm working on a book deadline, but this will be a great reward for when I'm done!!

Woo hoo!




Cher

[southerncrone]

9. I suspect it could be related to

UFO info. Especially if it was found in the desert.
Info about a cover-up of UFO facts, or that it has been a huge hoax perpetrated by the Govt. as a distraction when it served their purposes.

Either would start a comotion.

[Celebration]

10. John Podesta is for disclosure

So some people are hopeful under an Obama administration.

[southerncrone]

11. Yes, & Bill Clinton was, too, but I think he

was too "influenced" by the Bush regime & let it drop.

Suspect there are quite a few others who are for disclosure & I hope you're right about it coming out under Obama.

After the horrors we've faced under *, it might not be such a shock now.

[NJCher]

12. Adding this

this is from one of the ufo blogs I follow:


Predictions for 2009 - the official new web bot forecast is in !

Coast To Coast radio recently featured the web bot team in their Annual "Predictions Show" which included their official forecast for 2009. If you haven't heard of it before the web bots are a scientific way of predicting future events using computers to scour thousands of bits of data from the Internet (see below video to learn more). They have had many accurate predictions , including September 11, hurricane Katrina, the tsunamis and the recent economic collapse, often down to the correct date as well.

You may want to bookmark and read through the summary forecast notes for 2009. The notes give a general forecast for the months ahead in 2009. I am not going to spoil it yet so you need to read the notes yourself.

Overall here a few interesting extracts from the forecast notes:

2009 is the “Year of Transformation” Take a snapshot of where you were today and your life situation is likely to be significantly different by year end – to be changed
by this year’s pending events.

Possible economic collapse of USA due to additive impacts of the socioeconomic contract breakdown
�� Housing bubble collapse
�� Debt instrument bubble collapse
�� Possible repudiation of the US dollar
�� Global Coastal Event
�� “Secrets revealed” start to pour out of NASA and political offices
�� End of the ‘comfortable high tech/high consumption’ lifestyle and an involuntary return to lifestyle of previous generations

Future historians are likely to see ‘economic dislocations’ and a ‘fuzzy revolution’ as the highlights of the year. This will peak over what’s described as the ‘summer of hell’ globally.
�� U.S. government will begin to collapse. Perhaps not in head count, but with revenues falling dramatically, 30-40% decreases in government size & services seem likely by year end.
�� Two waves of ‘whistle-blowers’ are expected. The first as the Bush administration leaves office may focus on purported misdeeds/abuses while a second set of whistleblower cases is expected in the May-June period as massive change comes tor>NASA, JPL, and highly placed military personnel who may face job impacts due to the economy bouncing around

Just for the record.

Not saying I'm buying into it.



Cher

[Delphinus]

13. Well,

2009 is an "11" in numerology. I can't really recall what an "11" is, but I do know it's a master number.

Transformation can be such a good thing - I am going to look at it in a positive way. :)

[NJCher]

14. something new to add tonight

Here's a guy who recounts the last few web bots predictions and introduces a new one. He says that the heliosphere is gone. The effect this will have is that in a few years, we will return to a sort of tribal living and 80 per cent of what we do each day will be related to growing our own food. He says this is a positive thing and might be what saves us from going off a cliff (re global warming, I would presume).

He says no one is talking about this and that he's even brought it up to our politicians (Nancy Pelosi) and gotten a less than satisfactory response.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/16093/New_Web_Bots_Predictions_about_2012/

Says U.S. will default on its debts.

Not to stray too much from the topic, but does anyone else find this guy a little annoying?

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OK, to add to this, since the New Year, there have been numerous CoasttoCoast shows with predictions. A number of the psychics have something in their predictions that sort of resemble what this guy is trying to say (some problem with the sun, people having to grow their own food). Of course, as a gardener, if we don't have the right amount of sun, I don't see how we'll be growing anything but maybe whatever happens will only affect a portion of the growing area. For example, tonight I was looking at a map of what might happen if something happened in Yellowstone, and it appeared to affect a big part of the agriculture area of the country.

One prediction from a C2C show that really stood out was one that said something will happen that will affect our use of electricity--that there will be no electricity and there will be a return to living standards like in the 1800s.

On one of the shows where a prediction like this was made, a person brought out that this was remarkably like the John Titor time traveler predictions. Anyone recall those? I think he said there would be a nuclear event and that after that, we would return to this sort of tribal or rural way of life.

Many of the C2C predictors took this as a positive development. They said it will not be popular but it might be the one thing that prevents ecological disaster.

Millions will not be able to adapt. What will happen to them? No one seems to want to say it but it sounds to me like they will die. Cross over. Be raptured or whatever.



Cher

[lostnotforgotten]

16. That's The Clearest Description Of Cliff And Time Bot Predictions To Date

eom

[NJCher]

15. link to sunspot activity info

http://www.realufos.net/2009/01/expect-catastrophic-sun-storms-in-2012.html

Cher

[Why Syzygy]

17. Cher, this is C2C

and you may have heard it. I think you would appreciate it. Unfortunately, the youtube channel doesn't have it on a playlist, and it's in 12 parts. He talks about offworld folks, who he says are humanoids. He's a German astrologer and seer. He calls TPTB "Controllers" and says we are all time travelers, but the Controllers have come back to fix a dire future and are really mucking it up. That's just a minuscule portion of topics he covers. Hope you have time to listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UstmME2F3wY