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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:27 AM
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Trending into 2009
This looks interesting...


Trending into 2009

The evening of December 9, 2008, here in Santa Fe, NM, Jose’ and Lena Stevens presented a talk on the prominent trends they foresee for 2009. As a journalist, and as someone scheduled to give a talk on the 2009 astrological patterns the very next night, I paid close attention. As I listened to them speak, I was struck by how vividly their contemplative insights matched the signals broadcast by the major planetary patterns that characterize the coming years: the recent entry of Pluto into the sign of Capricorn until the year 2024, and the ongoing, dynamic opposition of Saturn and Uranus for next two years.

Virtually all professional astrologers appreciate the basic symbolism of these archetypal planetary movements and the profound death-rebirth, and restructuring processes that that they herald for business, finance, government, and the general status quo of personal, household, community, national, and global systems. The themes Jose’ and Lena Stevens articulated in their talk are distinctly reflected in the sky above...

(snip) http://www.chiron-communications.com/blog.html
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:46 AM
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1. Breathing is important to any who haven't read that yet.
Have to admit a sizable part of my reaction was YIKES. Breathe. Breathe. Breathe.

Curious but at the same time don't want to know what is going to happen. Trying to stay in the 'now' with this as worrying does nothing good.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:21 PM
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2. Thanks for posting this...you beat me to it.....
I thought this is an excellent way to look at the changes we are experiencing....


"Jose’ and Lena Stevens said that, as they perceive it, a healthy goal to embrace for the year ahead is acceptance -- acceptance of major changes and new situations. We are well underway with an unavoidable process of re-defining our security, prosperity, consumption, power, and also corporate identity and function in the world. That’s reality, and there is value in swiftly and gracefully accepting it. Staying stuck in wishing that things would not change, being stubborn and resisting change, blaming others and refusing to forgive, will be problematic stances that function as obstacles to optimum adaptation.

They said that an effective way to work toward the goal of acceptance in the year ahead, is through observation. While there may be no road map for the changes, a mode of observation would tend to restrain impulsive or panicky behavior. By observing what is happening, and then responding carefully and pragmatically to new conditions, what needs to be done gets done."



I also completely agree about the farming/food issues being SO important....I can see many small communities forming within towns & cities....have you read about how Cuba has these incredible gardens in the middle of their cities?? Pretty amazing and I think the US could learn a lot from them.

Thanks for sharing. :)

:hi: SH :loveya:
:hug: DR
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:00 PM
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3. You are welcome, Desertrose
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 01:00 PM by SpiralHawk
You are the best. I owe you a phone call -- am plodding along at my own, um, snail-like pace...
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:37 AM
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6. Yeah...that'd be cool...
I figured sooner or later I'd hear from you. :)

Did you make your Nov deadline??

Anyhoodle...be great to catch up. We are getting some "weather" here..could be some snow even!! You're next for it I bet.

:loveya::hug:
DR
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 09:41 PM
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4. Victory Gardens fed many Americans in WWI & WWII in spite of shortages
Like cuba the US government took over unused land in cities and turned them into vegetable gardens. Thankfully there has been a movement for many years now to preserve heirloom/heritiage vegetable lines so people need not be depenent upon monoculture and hybrids. I hope more people remember that our recent ancestors survived worse than this using comparitively simple skills and tools instead of trying to reinvent the wheel with unnecessarily complex methods.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 11:22 PM
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7. AhA! Here's a good seqway into this again:
in the Ringing Cedars of Russia series; the idea is to go back to planting and growing what you need in your area of the country specifically. SHe recommends holding the seeds you are going to plant in your mouth for a few minuites so your saliva can penetrate the seed - giving it the knowledge of what it needs to produce for your body to best give you the nutrition you need.

I can't wait to begin some raised bed gardening soon!
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 08:14 PM
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12. Wow!
I like that idea: seeds in the mouth so your saliva can tell it what your body needs. Too cool!

Can you tell me more about this Ringing Cedars of Russia - true story?
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 02:33 PM
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17. Oops! Sorry Delphinus! Didn't see this until now.
First, here's and interview with someone who's involved in the movement:
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/lsharashkin.htm

Official publisher's website:
http://www.ringingcedars.com/

The first website:
http://www.ringingcedarsofrussia.org/Main/English/index.php

Someone here in this forum mentioned this about two-three years ago, and I went a-hunting around the web to find out what they were talking about. I found the last link and started reading info there. I've never read the books, but all the info on the various sites has helped me glean the basics of what this is about. It really seems like a facinating way of looking at health and food,as well as a spiritual path.

I think the interview will give you the most info. It should be free, but if it is not let me know and I'll get it for you.

As soon as I can afford to get the books I will review!
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:37 PM
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5. wish I was in a farming friendly zone!!!
There's a recently vacated car lot I would love to plow under and turn into a voctory garden for our town, right near our church and the disabled and low income housing apartments, too...lots of volunteers ready for the making. but our grow season is so short, we would need major mobilizing and an expert on horticulture to pull it off...

*sigh* I wish I had a milion bucks for all my great ideas...and a body that would be up to the task!!!
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 11:05 AM
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11. you can do it, journal...
There are many ways to extend growing seasons, from starting seeds indoors under growlights to cold frames and hoophouses. It doesn't take major expertise -- the knowledge is available through county agricultural extension offices, much of it online through their websites, and there are many, many how-to books available.

I went through "Master Gardener" training at my county extension. I am able to start seeds (even some notoriously difficult seeds), evaluate best veggies for my growing zone, raise and harvest vegetables, fuits and perennial herbs, and dry herbs for winter use. I have the instructions, but haven't yet tried, to save seeds from my own produce.

I also have several books on making and using herbal medicines (I healed a bout with shingles 2 summers ago using a dozen or so fresh and dried herbs known to be effective against herpes viruses that I harvested from my own garden).

I've also seen some existing inner city programs to grow food in abandoned city lots. I'll bet if you googled online you could find them, and maybe contact the founders to see how they got started.

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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 11:19 AM
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15. link to a couple pics
Here's a link to a couple pics of my seasonal extension projects. The top picture is a plant cover that allowed me to grow tomatoes through Dec. 15! I made it myself by sewing the plastic on a sewing machine. I made the supports from PVC tubing. It was simple, really. Anyone could do it.

http://home.comcast.net/~cherie1/Garden/92301PlantCovers.htm

On the bottom pic you will see a floating "row" cover. It's actually a special cloth that can be draped over plants and that protects them an extra 20 degrees. That one got me peppers through November one year.

I am amazed at the interest there is out there in doing this type of thing. I mentioned it to a class one night and that's all anyone wanted to talk about. The students, who in this particular class were all graduate school women, were very tuned in to why they might be needing to do this. I was, quite frankly, taken aback, as I had no idea of the level of interest.



Cher
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 12:34 PM
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16. Four Season Harvest is a book on this sort of gardening by a man who lives in Maine
A friend of mine who is a good gardener liked it. She already uses cold frames and floating row covers to keep getting fresh veggies for months longer than she would otherwise. Here are some video clips of that book's author showing some of the stuff he does:

http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/index.php?p=1026
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 11:41 PM
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8. The word for 2009-2010 to me feels like "adaptation"
It can be both painful and amazing to go from caterpillar to butterfly, and for us to see this hapen collectively will boggle he imagination. and I am SO ready for the change! ...and a little uncomfortable with what could show up too. As we shift frequency to a dimension of more and more instant manifestation - our fears have to get "wrung out" so we don't create those scenarios or events or things in our collective either...

what a challenging time to be alive! wow... humbling too....
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:19 PM
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9. Oh mister hawk,
You're just so . . .so. . .so. . .so. . .

"trendy."

My favorite local neighborhood red tailed hawk was appropriately perched on the ewe, just a couple of feet away from my North window this morn when I saw this thread.

This phenomenon is increasingly uncannily funny.

I've another prayer thread for the Solstice on which I'd love to collude with you.

PM me if you're interested.

:)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 10:37 AM
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10. No road map.
"Big shift. Big changes. No road map. But there are paths. This is what they said. They observed that North American culture and ways of life would experience high stress in the year ahead, perhaps more stress than the country has ever been through, citing the American Revolution, the Civil War and the Great Depression. “We have to change,” they said. “Everyone knows it, but no one yet knows what will replace it.”
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 08:33 PM
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13. Months and months ago,
Peake posted something that got me to thinking along these same lines. This is what I've been feeling, and still can't quite articulate: “We have to change,” they said. “Everyone knows it, but no one yet knows what will replace it.”

We have to dream this new way of living into being.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 08:49 PM
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14. Anything we wish to be.
Along with all attendant consequences.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 06:45 AM
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18. Dream it and then do it.
Sayonara 2008.

Peace and good will to all in 2009.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 06:50 AM
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19. Infinite love and grace
for every soul in 2009. May peace prevail in our hearts and on this Earth.
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