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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:17 AM
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Up for promotion despite 2-grade discipline
Up for promotion despite 2-grade discipline
By Bruce Rolfsen - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Apr 21, 2008 10:43:28 EDT

Some airmen could advance two grades despite disciplinary actions that resulted in a demotion.

The Air Force Personnel Center is blaming the problem on the service’s human resources computer system.

Personnel units are being warned that airmen who have lost a stripe as punishment may still get promoted as if they had never done anything wrong.

The problem affects junior enlisted airmen moving up to airman, airman first class and senior airman. Promotions to these ranks are almost automatic — airmen must meet only time-in-service and time-in-grade minimums and have the approval of their commander. They don’t have to test for promotion or have their performance evaluations compared against other airmen.

If a demoted airman finds himself unexpectedly promoted, he is obligated to report the mistake to his supervisors, said Col. Bill Foote, director of personnel services at the Air Force Personnel Center, Randolph Air Force Base, Texas.


Rest of article at: http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2008/04/airforce_enlisted_promotion_snafu_042008/



uhc comment: Great system you guys built. :sarcasm:
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:44 AM
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1. that article seems to have gone AWOL from the link
Seems the commander should have a role in this. He/she approves the promotion. Seems easy enough to have their bloated staff insure there were no demotions. But as usual, they don't seem to shoulder any of the responsibility - according to the director of personnel services.

What the hell are these commanders responsible for these days. Not for the criminal behavior of their troops ala Abu Ghraib, nor for bogus promotions. Not unlike corporate america, unfortunately.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:46 AM
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2. These guys use dynamic addressing, which is why I put links at the top
and bottom of an article. The top link still works.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:56 AM
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3. yes - that worked - thanks
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rakeeb Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:34 AM
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4. It is a "great" system, in that promotions are automatic
from E1 to E4, (commander's approval is implied)....E1 to E4's make up a large percentage of the manpower....and since ninety-nine-point-something percent of them never commit an infraction warranting a demotion...that narrows down the responsibility of the commanders to take an active role in denying the promotion of a few offenders a year, instead of delaying the promotion of tens of thousands a year with lost or misdirected paperwork.
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