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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:48 AM
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So, who does my Atheist bretheren support for Prez.?
I think Edwards is the best bet. Or I will take Obama, but as a second choice.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:30 AM
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1. That's how I feel myself
Although I will vote for whomever gets the nom, even if I have to hold my nose and do it...
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:33 AM
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2. Were I American, my order of preference would be
Edwards > Richardson > Clinton > Obama > Kucinich. The others I don't know enough about.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:20 AM
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3. Maybe this God - O - Meter can help
http://blog.beliefnet.com/godometer/

I really don't believe any of us need the god-o-meter but it's a source that's looking at the I'm more religious than your are bullshit
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:21 AM
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4. I support Kicinich, but I'm afraid he doesn't have a chance.
So, my second choice is Edwards, then Obama and last Clinton.
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Midwest_Doc Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:04 AM
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5. Clinton
She has the political mindset that will give us good Supreme Court Justices
Pete Stark for VP!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:10 AM
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6. My little atheist brain is crying for
Howard Dean:



"I'm TIRED of fundamentalist preachers telling us what to do"

I'm for Edwards, nominally. Then Obama, then (choke) Hillary.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:17 AM
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7. Still undecided
Leaning toward Kucinich, Edwards, Richardson, and if hell freezes over, I will consider voting for HRC, but I will probably just write in Mickey Mouse.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:53 AM
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19. I failed to mention
that there are only 6 names on the Texas Ballot: Clinton, Edwards, Obama, Biden, Dodd, and Richardson. Three have withdrawn leaving me with only 3 choices. Since I promised my Mother that I would never vote for Hillary, that only leaves Obama vs. Edwards vs. Dead End. And I am still undecided. Unfortunately I live in Texas where my vote has no impact on the outcome of any race, but I do like to voice my opinion even when it doesn't matter.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:45 AM
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34. Guess it's Obama for you ....
does Texas vote on Super Tuesday?
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:01 PM
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35. Texas primary is March 5
By the time I get to vote, it won't matter.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:48 AM
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8. HRC at this point. nt
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:32 PM
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9. Edwards
His religiosity seems to be personal and hasn't bled into his public posture.

I'd prefer a militant, aggressive, angry atheist, but I know that won't happen.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:09 PM
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11. John Edwards because he identifies the medical insurance industry as malevolent
He has emphasized climate protection from the beginning of his campaign. One of his three goals was "end global warming".
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:16 PM
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40. And now Obama
Even though his constant use of religious language grates horribly on me and makes me uneasy.
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:42 PM
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10. I like Kucinich the best, but I wouldn't say I support him
I guess I dislike him the least. Policy-wise, you pretty much can't go wrong with him, but then there is the unfortunate matter of his New Age beliefs. My second choice would have to be Edwards, seeing as how I haven't heard too much bible-baiting out of him, in addition to his fearless anti-corporate rhetoric.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:11 PM
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12. I like Edwards
I saw him Sunday being interviewed by Stephanopoulos and liked what he said about freeing the government and the public from the influence of big corporations and their lobbyists. I also like that he seems to realize (unlike der Chimpenfuhrer) that the rest of us in America shouldn't be forced to coddle the people at the top.

Obama's my second choice. If neither of them get the nomination I'll hold my nose and vote for whoever does, but if it becomes clear that the state I'm in is going to go red by a wide margin (again :( ) I plan on writing in Edwards.
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:25 PM
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13. I don't really like anybody.
Kucinich has good policies, but he's too superstitious. I kind of like Edwards because he's always on-message, but I don't really think he's genuine. However, I have resigned myself to being disappointed regardless of who we get, so somebody even marginally good is acceptable to me. Hillary however is right out.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:09 PM
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14. Ah, genuine. There's the rub.
Unfortunately, I think genuine is the antithesis of politician.

I'm with you on Edwards and Kucinich. I like what Kucinich says about health care, but he weirds me out otherwise. Edwards seems to be "genuine", which tells me he's probably not . . . but I like his position on the corporations and he does have the chops to actually fight for something. Problem is, I'm not sure what he'd end up fighting for.

I trust HRC and Obama about the same - which is really not at all. They are both consummate pols. HRC leans a bit too far to the right for my comfort zone, although I agree that she'd try to even out the Supreme Court (assuming she got the chance). I think Obama believes he can do good, but he's too slick for my tastes. He panders to whatever group he's speaking to at the moment . . . and his cadences are starting to sound more and more like Martin Luther King, Jr. That was fine for MLK - he was a preacher, not a pol - but it makes my flesh crawl when Obama does it.

I'd LOVE to see Dean - pissed me off no end when the media burnt him at the stake.

In the end, like most of you, I'll hold my nose and vote for the Dem candidate. Assuming we don't all eat ourselves alive before the election.

Can I vote for an amendment to STOP the 2-year election cycle? By the time we get to November, nobody is going to give a rat's ass.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:56 PM
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15. Edwards for me. nt
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:30 PM
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16. Me. And not just the president of the US - I should be president of the world.
:rofl: Just kiding around, because I am more a "anyone but Bush" fan. In this sense, Bush = any republican.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:31 AM
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17. Why settle for just being Prez..
When you can be "King of the World!" to quote Leonardo Di Caprio...I see your ego is working just fine these days....;)
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:37 AM
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18. Kucinich, first and almost only choice
Edwards if I must.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:57 AM
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20. Edwards. But I guess I'll support whomever gets the nom.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:53 AM
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21. I don't really like any of them. I think you have some pretty shitty
candidates down there. But if I were forced....

I don't know. I don't trust any of them. I wouldn't "support" any of them, though I would probably voted Edwards > Clinton > Obama.

Edwards seems fake, but I like his message. Whether or not he'll actually stick to it is debatable. Hillary...meh, she's too right for my tastes, but I think she capable of doing some clean up. Obama just seems like an empty suit to me and his religiousity is a little off-putting.

Over-all though, I think they would have about the same effectiveness as president. One thing is for sure...whoever gets in is gonna get really beat up. People expect change and improvement, and they expect is fast. It's unrealistic, but since people are generally fucking morons, they will go into a frenzy when a human candidate is unable to do was is not humanly possible.

I don't know why anyone would want the job, myself.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:05 PM
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22. Any who get the nom, but as an atheist, Obama
his mother and father were atheists. His dad left when he was 2 but he speaks worshipful (as all sons should) of his mother. I'm thinking we wouldn't be excluded like we were from Romney's speech/mind/table.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:00 PM
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25. He gets 2 points for having Atheist Parents..
I thought it was his Mother that was the Atheist and his father was Muslim or something?

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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:15 PM
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27. he said his father was an atheist "by the time he married my mom"
His father was raised a Muslim.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:06 PM
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23. Edwards
The Usual Boring Personal Kinda Story...and for younger DU'ers this will probably be about as relevant as the Hundred Years War, but here goes...

I love it when the MSM and the GOFP--virtually the same entity!--try to paint Edwards as Democratic version of George W. F. Bush. Rich trial lawyer! Horrors!

Pfft! Edwards is more like Bill Clinton. And come to think of it, that alone is enough to make the GOFP crap its collective trousers.

Many centur...er, years ago, when I was a mere baby in Upstate South Carolina, my mother worked in a cotton mill. She used to car-pool with a married couple who worked in the same mill.

That couple was John Edwards' parents.

I probably don't need to remind you...but will anyway, as usual...that cotton mill workers do not get many weekend invites to the Kennebunkport Compound.

Useful sociological note: Southern cotton-mill workers are often called "lintheads." This distinguishes them from the people who grow the cotton, often called "rednecks." That was my father's side of the family. :-)
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adnelson60087 Donating Member (661 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:00 PM
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24. That is a really cool story about edwards' parents and your mom!
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adnelson60087 Donating Member (661 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:01 PM
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26. Edwards.. hands down shares most of my humanist principles.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:30 PM
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28. Edwards.
He's the populist and most progressive, the best on the environment, the least beholden to corporations.

Take it all the way to the convention. And for once, I'd like to have a meaningful vote in my state (March 4th).

Politically, I match Gravel best.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:55 PM
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29. The same as you
Edwards first, then Obama. I'd love Kucinich but realistically don't see him getting the nod.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:50 PM
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30. Clinton n/t
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:44 AM
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31. Edwards.
--IMM
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:36 PM
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32. Edwards is my man, too
with Hillary second. Obama takes third place. I'm looking forward to our primary day. It's going to be an adventure, I think.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:46 AM
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33. John Edwards
I like his progressive message of social justice. I have been underwhelmed by all the Democratic candidates this time around, but Edwards is the only one who has impressed me.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:40 PM
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36. I don't like any...
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:41 PM by Lost-in-FL
specially knowing that the media selected them for all of us. I liked both Obama and HRC but they are really acting like kids. Edwards disappointed me during the 2004 elections and never recovered from that one, he could have done more. The state of our party is terrible and you can feel it here in DU.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:12 PM
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37. Clinton sold us peace activists down the river
She dismissed her duty to serve her constituents and has been angling to be the perfect centrist since her god damned Iraq War Resolution vote. She could have LED opposition that war. She didn't. She had her eyes on the November 2008 presidential election. To win, she needed a political position to satisfy the right wingers, and that position was "triangulation" on the Iraq War.

(yes, I recycled this from the Edwards forum)
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:06 PM
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38. At this point, there's only Obama left
I think his rhetoric is kind of empty, but the memes he's pushing are better than Hillary's.

That's not really good enough, but a candidate selling good-sounding ideas that may not get the support they deserve is probably still better than a candidate selling Bush's talking points. (I know -- the difference is small, but there's nothing else left)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:12 PM
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39. Those earnest men* like John Kerry who endorsed him could school him
Then we would be somewhere.
*Earnest women, too!
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